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This... guys just stop trying to use science in your naruto vs debates . You sound stupid .

I mean, seriously, what the **** are some of these clowns on? You would need to calculate the trajectory of the Shockwave, then the speed of the object, the speed of sound. For Speed of sound, you would need Temperature ... I don't even ... And I haven't even touched about the mach number calculation that is integral to all of this. Jesus Christ!

Thank you. I can't believe that clown really implied that a ball form Bijuudama is more durable than multiple mountains L0l.

If that doesn't tell us something.
 
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Kurama can't be beaten with brute force, at least not by these guys. Too much power even compared to his fellow Bijus. Even Hashirama was afraid of his power. A Susanoo that has the hype to rival Bijus can't measure up with the strongest one and Sasuke is even weaker.
Questions for you sir.

1- How many Tbb's do you think Kurama can tank of it's own?

2- Do you think Kurama would have been still able to fight after getting pounded by SS punches and hit with some of it's own Bijuudama's explosion?

3- Also how many Bijuu did Madara even know? Madara could have easily been talking about Kurama considering it was the only Bijuu he was around most of the time.

4- By feats what Bijuu can stand up to Ps excluding Kurama? Don't say Hachibi he can get his tails cut off with basic Kunai and his body is no durable than it's tails.
If that doesn't tell us something. Ingrates.
Let's not forget he said every other Bijuu is equal except for Kurama. L0l 3tails got put own by a small bomb from Deidara and the 8tails tanked it's own tbb yet there equal L00l.
 
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I mean, seriously, what the **** are some of these clowns on? You would need to calculate the trajectory of the Shockwave, then the speed of the object, the speed of sound. For Speed of sound, you would need Temperature ... I don't even ... And I haven't even touched about the mach number calculation that is integral to all of this. Jesus Christ!



If that doesn't tell us something. Ingrates.

And they're the future .

#ImScared
 

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Didn't 6 tail Kyubi reverted back the invisible and gravitational force of a shinra tensei? Pushing aside the material flame of Amaterasu should be childsplay to him
 

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Let's not forget he said every other Bijuu is equal except for Kurama. L0l 3tails got put own by a small bomb from Deidara and the 8tails tanked it's own tbb yet there equal L00l.


Let's not forget he said every other Bijuu is equal except for Kurama. L0l 3tails got put own by a small bomb from Deidara and the 8tails tanked it's own tbb yet there equal L00l.


How does anyone even take this guy seriously?

And they're the future .

#ImScared

No wonder I don't come to the versus section anymore.
 

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Didn't 6 tail Kyubi reverted back the invisible and gravitational force of a shinra tensei? Pushing aside the material flame of Amaterasu should be childsplay to him


Yes by catching it's self via tails and what force will it have to push back Amaterasu this time?













None...
 

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Wait... people think Amaterasu actually matters here? Haha, pathetic. Not surprised when the entire thread besides a few people can't put their bias aside when their favourite character is involved.

@Zi Yu The argumentation you used to compare Full Kurama and Senpou Mokujin is completely flawed. The only time we've seen Full Kurama fight it, is when it was under Genjutsu with essentially no brain. BM Naruto's Avatar completely destroyed Madara's, and that's Half Kurama. This is Kurama with no Genjutsu control over himself and his own brain functioning. And if you read any remnant of the war arc, you'll know Kurama is very intelligent.

This whole Amaterasu argument is hilarious given that we saw Amaterasu used on Nagato, who then proceeded to dissipate the entire thing with Shinra Tensei, a force weaker than a KN6 Naruto roar, which would logically be far below the roar given off by FULL KURAMA. Amaterasu is a complete non-factor here whether it hits or not, because it's getting blown off the second it touches Kurama's skin anyways (and you're not going to come at me with saying that Kurama has less pain tolerance than a human).

@Shelke PS was not "flaking off towards the end". It was completely ripped apart and Kurama removed 3 panels after the collision and Madara did not and was not able to "respawn it" showing it was destroyed.

PS shockwaves are going to deflect 12 continuous Bijuudama that Kurama canonically showed alongside Madara? Please. People severely overrate PS shockwaves when comparing a PS user to something well on the level of the person. There's no way that a shockwave which is only capable of slicing the top off of mountains is going to have more kinetic force to push back something that completely vaporizes mountains, let alone 12 of them coming at him simultaneously. Hell, if Madara/Sasuke somehow survive that, the time they spend defending that is more than enough time for Kurama to charge up a massive Bijuudama and paste either of them.

Sasuke loses worse than Madara by virtue of his weaker PS, but Madara still loses.
 

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Wait... people think Amaterasu actually matters here? Haha, pathetic. Not surprised when the entire thread besides a few people can't put their bias aside when the
IRRELEVANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everything above has been counter lmao @ the Kurama roar it's been countered i did that personally. Bias aside? I could careless about Sasuke and Madara characters.
 

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Everything above has been counter lmao @ the Kurama roar it's been countered i did that personally. Bias aside? I could careless about Sasuke and Madara characters.

I already read your argument and it was weak at best. Kurama's pain tolerance > any human being barring upper tiers-God tiers, easily. There's no way a slow burning fire like Amaterasu will finish Kurama off before he can pull off what Nagato did with a weaker Shinra Tensei.
 

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Wait... people think Amaterasu actually matters here? Haha, pathetic. Not surprised when the entire thread besides a few people can't put their bias aside when their favourite character is involved.

@Shelke PS was not "flaking off towards the end". It was completely ripped apart and Kurama removed 3 panels after the collision and Madara did not and was not able to "respawn it" showing it was destroyed.

PS shockwaves are going to deflect 12 continuous Bijuudama that Kurama canonically showed alongside Madara? Please. People severely overrate PS shockwaves when comparing a PS user to something well on the level of the person. There's no way that a shockwave which is only capable of slicing the top off of mountains is going to have more kinetic force to push back something that completely vaporizes mountains, let alone 12 of them coming at him simultaneously. Hell, if Madara/Sasuke somehow survive that, the time they spend defending that is more than enough time for Kurama to charge up a massive Bijuudama and paste either of them.

Sasuke loses worse than Madara by virtue of his weaker PS, but Madara still loses.

It does, actually. How ironic, right? The rest of the accusation, I mean.

It was flaking off. Portions of PS were still on Kurama. The Statue was also done. So let's not use this as some kind of argument.

Really, Kurama is going to fire off 12 TBBS in succession without being controlled? I would need a scan of that. Even then why wouldn't it? The damned shockwave destroyed a mountain, and traveled further forward. Are you actually under the illusion that BDs are more compact a form than that? Let's not get carried away. Not to mention the damned charge time. A Slash is faster than a BD charge. It's just a fact.

Push back what? Don't bring science into this. What force? Which Kinetic energy? Stop using the terms that have little or nothing to do with this debate. A Shockwave works on speed. That's it. Since you are so into this, prove to me that a BD would be able to converse its Mass and Energy when it's hit by a shock-wave that destroyed a mountain. I'll wait.

Assumption.
 
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I already read your argument and it was weak at best. Kurama's pain tolerance > any human being barring upper tiers-God tiers, easily. There's no way a slow burning fire like Amaterasu will finish Kurama off before he can pull off what Nagato did with a weaker Shinra Tensei.
What are Kurama high pain tolerance feats? Hachibi durability is mountain level + yet he went ape shit when the flames meet his flesh. Hell the Juubi went ape shit as well and let's not get on how durable the Juubi was. Slow of fast burning pain is pain. How Kurama roar doesn't affect a 360 area as i've explained above. What Naruto did during the fight with Orochimaru was a transformation unless full Kurama can transform into something then we have no argument here.
 

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The NB's stupidity is outstanding.

Kurama can now push back Amatersu?
Kurama's TBB time charge is faster than PS slash speed? Or can tank it?

Every time I leave and come back, there has to always be a memorable quotes to be found.
 

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The NB's stupidity is outstanding.

Kurama can now push back Amatersu?
Kurama's TBB time charge is faster than PS slash speed? Or can tank it?

Every time I leave and come back, there has to always be a memorable quotes to be found.

That's not even the half of it. Go a page back and look at F=ma used for Shock-wave calculations. Then people here claim they should be taken seriously.
 

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Can't Madara just with a Susanoo sword, preventing him from forming TBB?
 

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That's not even the half of it. Go a page back and look at F=ma used for Shock-wave calculations. Then people here claim they should be taken seriously.

Haha...It is indeed amusement for some to apply science to this fictional debate, and they have no idea how to apply it.
 

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Can't Madara just with a Susanoo sword, preventing him from forming TBB?

A viable option. Sword's speed still beats the sluggish charge time by comparison.

Haha...It is indeed amusement for some to apply science to this fictional debate, and they have no idea how to apply it.

This section kills me every time. I left it because of this garbage. Come back months later and it still stinks to high heaven.
 

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1. Kurama tanking or rendering Amatersu useless is a laughable argument. First off, the fallacy to apply a Chakra cloak to removing Amatersu into Kurama removing it, is a fallacy. The former is a Chakra cloak, thus can be manipulated willingly. Kurama is meat and flesh, thus he cannot possibly manipulate his body or skeleton to remove Amatersu. Kurama is not the Juubi nor Chakra cloak, so he has no feats of removing it. He gets hit, the burn spreads all over, and he turns to ash.

2. Kurama's TBB somehow being able to tank PS slash is by far the trash argument I read since 2015. It's not going able to do that because:

  • TBB doesn't have mass comparable to mountains (which were obliterated by PS); Kurama would have to swallow or explode from the inside, when it's dragged into its mouth for beam shot. [ ]. Hell, Naruto wouldn't be to lift the TBB with his bare hands, if it ever weighted like mountains.

This section kills me every time. I left it because of this garbage. Come back months later and it still stinks to high heaven.

I hear you. I thought the kids in here would have grown to learn how to discuss threads like this...Turns out not be the case.
 
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50% 8 tails Kyuubi broke out of Chibaku Tensei. Imagine what 100% nine tails Kyuubi could do with sheer force. The swings of its tails were said to entail natural disasters.

The PS was stalemated by Mokujin. Imagine what happens if Kurama sprints towards the PS and overwhelms it with the sheer power of his body and tails. Kyuubi > PS in close combat. And its big TBB was formed in 2-3 seconds. First Kyuubi overwhelms the PS with his raw power and shoots his massive TBB.

PS shockwave is simply blocked by his nine tails. Unless you tell me that a swing of PS sword is stronger than Juubi's laser, that merely destroyed a few tails of 50% BM Kurama.
 

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Haha...It is indeed amusement for some to apply science to this fictional debate, and they have no idea how to apply it.

You have made literally the most idiotic calculations I have ever seen before.


 
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