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Kurama wins. Hashirama stalemated with the PS via Mokujin. 100% Kurama tops PS in phsyical strength. 8 tailed 50% Kurama broke out of Chibaku Tensei. 9 tailed full Kurama has a lot more raw strength. It will go into close combat with the PS and nuke it with a giant TBB.
 

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Kurama loses both.

Kurama is flesh and bones Ps slashes obliterates Kurama. TBB's get intercepted via shockwaves or grabbed and thrown back honestly since Ps does have 4 hands.

Sasuke one shots Kurama with Amaterasu. Bijuu have shown durability against blunt force but not their skin constantly being burned seeing as Bee tanked his own Bijuudama but was taken out by Amaterasu. Sasuke light Kurama face up like a christmas tree and it's been shown multiple times that Bijuu need to be focused to use a Bijuudama.

Kurama wins. Hashirama stalemated with the PS via Mokujin. 100% Kurama tops PS in phsyical strength. 8 tailed 50% Kurama broke out of Chibaku Tensei. 9 tailed full Kurama has a lot more raw strength. It will go into close combat with the PS and nuke it with a giant TBB.
Slap yourself. An unstabilized Ps already tanked Kurama tbb without damage. Kurama trying to use a giant tbb is not happening when shockwaves are constantly coming towards it. Kurama trying to get close is Suicide it's still flesh and bones so it'll get ripped apart. TBB's are useless there grabbed tanked or intercepted.

Kurama would beat them, comfortably. He'd stomp Sasuke though. Basically a slower BM Naruto, but with twice the firepower, and far greater physical stats, such as strength and durability.
Amaterasu ends Kurama. Amaterasu to the face would not only blind him but he'll constantly be in pain. Bijuu can't even use Bijuudama's when their in pain either/Not completely focused.

But then again you are the same guy who thinks Kurama can take out SS.
 
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Amaterasu ends Kurama. Amaterasu to the face would not only blind him but he'll constantly be in pain. Bijuu can't even use Bijuudama's when their in pain either.

This has been addressed. You've literally regurgitated the same nonsense unorthodox spewed.
 

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Kurama wins. Hashirama stalemated with the PS via Mokujin. 100% Kurama tops PS in phsyical strength. 8 tailed 50% Kurama broke out of Chibaku Tensei. 9 tailed full Kurama has a lot more raw strength. It will go into close combat with the PS and nuke it with a giant TBB.

This has been addressed. You've literally regurgitated the same nonsense unorthodox spewed.
The only argument you said was Kurama shakes it off how? He can't get rid of it because the flames never die plus Amaterasu size can increase depending on the target.( )-( ). Also Madara ps already tanked Kurama's tbb wthout damage and how in the world can Full Kurama shoot 12 tbb's slap yourself.
 

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The only argument you said was Kurama shakes it off how? He can't get rid of it because the flames never die plus Amaterasu size can increase depending on the target.( )-( ). Also Madara ps already tanked Kurama's tbb wthout damage and how in the world can Full Kurama shoot 12 tbb's slap yourself.

Never said he shakes it off. I said he shrugs it off, as in it can't hurt him bad enough to stop him from finishing Madara.

@bold: I suggest you slap yourself and actually read the this time around.
 

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Never said he shakes it off. I said he shrugs it off, as in it can't hurt him bad enough to stop him from finishing Madara.

@bold: I suggest you slap yourself and actually read the this time around.
So Kurama can't feel pain now L0l? How is he even going to get a Bijuudama off when his eyes are covered in flames. This Kurama is flesh and bones he'll feel Amaterasu even something as powerful as Juubi scream when it was hit with Amaterasu.( ).Yet Kurama is going to shrug it off L0l stop. Touche lil homie.
 

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So Kurama can't feel pain now L0l? How is he even going to get a Bijuudama off when his eyes are covered in flames. This Kurama is flesh and bones he'll feel Amaterasu even something as powerful as Juubi scream when it was hit with Amaterasu.( ).Yet Kurama is going to shrug it off L0l stop. Touche lil homie.

Kurama being able to feel pain=/=Amaterasu being strong enough to create enough pain to adversely affect him to the point where he'll be unable to fight against Sasuke.

Something as powerful as the Juubi screamed when it was hit by an Amaterasu amplified by Naruto's Chou FRS. Oxygen makes fire burn hotter and it increases the size, as seen when Kakashi's Suiton was evaporated by Kakuzu's Katon+Fuuton combo, and basic science proves my point.

It's face isn't going to get hit btw. Not only does Kurama have intel on Sasuke's techniques, Gyuki was able to block with a tentacle, and he's slower than Half Kurama who is slower than Full Kurama. Full Kurama effortlessly blocks with his tails and then beats Sasuke down and blows him to shit with 12 Bijuu Dama.
 

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Kurama being able to feel pain=/=Amaterasu being strong enough to create enough pain to adversely affect him to the point where he'll be unable to fight against Sasuke.
Yes it will considering his eyes will be burnt out.

Something as powerful as the Juubi screamed when it was hit by an Amaterasu amplified by Naruto's Chou FRS. Oxygen makes fire burn hotter and it increases the size, as seen when Kakashi's Suiton was evaporated by Kakuzu's Katon+Fuuton combo, and basic science proves my point.
Doesn't matter if it was amplifired or not Juubi is far greater than Kurama than the boost of Amaterasu was to a regular one so even if we substract Naruto's help from Amaterasu it wouldn't nearly be as big as the subtraction from Juubi's durability to Kurama's.

It's face isn't going to get hit btw. Not only does Kurama have intel on Sasuke's techniques, Gyuki was able to block with a tentacle, and he's slower than Half Kurama who is slower than Full Kurama. Full Kurama effortlessly blocks with his tails and then beats Sasuke down and blows him to shit with 12 Bijuu Dama.
Yet his face was still caught.( ). Kurama wouldn't even be able to see if he would be going to use it or not considering he wont have the bleeding affect and he won't be as close as Hachibi was.( ). Let's also mention the fact that Amaterasu can be casted in 2 different areas at the same time.( ). This Combination would ruin Kurama. He could also use Aoda to escape from tbb's etc. Kurama isn't winning this.
 

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EMS Madara gets beat by Kurama. Sasuke spawns Amaterasu onto Kurama several times
and then flees. As he constantly runs, his susanoo will be able to sustain damage from tbb
that do not hit directly. Due to his fleeing and the fact that kurama will be in too much pain to aim
properly, his suanoo will be enough to withstand damage from a kurama that is not focused onto him so
Sasuke wins just because his eyes are good for this kind of stuff.
 

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I say Kurama considering how many TBBs he fired against the SS. That should overwhelm either.
 

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Yes it will considering his eyes will be burnt out.

It won't hit it's face though.

Doesn't matter if it was amplifired or not Juubi is far greater than Kurama than the boost of Amaterasu was to a regular one so even if we substract Naruto's help from Amaterasu it wouldn't nearly be as big as the subtraction from Juubi's durability to Kurama's.
Just an assumption on your part.

Yet his face was still caught.( ). Kurama wouldn't even be able to see if he would be going to use it or not considering he wont have the bleeding affect and he won't be as close as Hachibi was.( ). Let's also mention the fact that Amaterasu can be casted in 2 different areas at the same time.( ). This Combination would ruin Kurama. He could also use Aoda to escape from tbb's etc. Kurama isn't winning this.

Because he blocked with one tentacle. Kurama blocks it's whole facial area and body area with it's tails and then nukes Madara's Susanoo. Whether or not he makes two fireballs isn't going to matter cause it'll all hit his tails.

@bold: Nope.


Aoda? To escape from Bijuu Dama? Lol, tell us another joke. If Sasuke is using mere boss summons to fight against Kurama, then Bijuu Dama won't even be needed. Aoda is manhandled by Kurama's tails and Sasuke gets crushed as well unless he uses PS, then he gets nuked.
 

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It won't hit it's face though.
This isn't even a counter argument let's be honest here and i already proved why trying to block it won't work via Hachibi trying to same thing but failed.

Just an assumption on your part.
Ok let me dumb this down for.

Amaterasu burning was probably amplified by 5x if that. Kurama durability compared to Juubi's is far less greater than that so if we use regular Amaterasu compared to Kurama; Kurama will burn and feel the affect just like the Juubi did.


Because he blocked with one tentacle. Kurama blocks it's whole facial area and body area with it's tails and then nukes Madara's Susanoo. Whether or not he makes two fireballs isn't going to matter cause it'll all hit his tails.
Yep Kurama is going to have all this time to do this and even he does the he'll still be burning like Magic Johnson. Madara intercepts the Tbb's via shockwaves.

@bold: Nope.


Aoda? To escape from Bijuu Dama? Lol, tell us another joke. If Sasuke is using mere boss summons to fight against Kurama, then Bijuu Dama won't even be needed. Aoda is manhandled by Kurama's tails and Sasuke gets crushed as well unless he uses PS, then he gets nuked.
What is the joke about he simply evades by going underground. Never said he'll use Aoda to fight Kurama stop. Also you didn't even counter half of my arguments all you said was Nope,Not going to happen,I Doubt that etc.. I think it's time for you to concede sir.
 

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This isn't even a counter argument let's be honest here and i already proved why trying to block it won't work via Hachibi trying to same thing but failed.

The counter argument is below.


Ok let me dumb this down for.

Amaterasu burning was probably amplified by 5x if that. Kurama durability compared to Juubi's is far less greater than that so if we use regular Amaterasu compared to Kurama; Kurama will burn and feel the affect just like the Juubi did.
Once again, that's just an assumption on your part. Pulling numbers out of your ass isn't an argument. Fact of the matter is, Amaterasu's best feat on a Bijuu sized scale is hurting Hachibi after it got on it's body. Not proof or evidence it'll do the same to Kurama, who is more durable, and can block it from touching his body completely.


Yep Kurama is going to have all this time to do this and even he does the he'll still be burning like Magic Johnson. Madara intercepts the Tbb's via shockwaves
Hachibi managed to block it despite:

1. Being slower than Kurama.
2. Having zero intel on said jutsu.

Kurama is much faster with intel. Do the math. Lol.

Again with the shockwaves BS? When you or unorthodox can give me evidence that Mountain cutting shockwaves are going to do shit to 12 Bijuu Dama then we can talk. Until then, all I see are empty arguments with zero evidence backing them.

What is the joke about he simply evades by going underground.



Never said he'll use Aoda to fight Kurama stop. Also you didn't even counter half of my arguments all you said was Nope,Not going to happen,I Doubt that etc.. I think it's time for you to concede sir.

I've countered your arguments. Hell, your arguments are barely arguments considering all you are doing is making assumptions with zero evidence backing them, and it's just the same shit I've already replied to in this thread. Lol. I think it's time for you to concede, or sit back and wait till unorthodox concedes or just stops replying considering you've done nothing but repeat his arguments.
 

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Once again, that's just an assumption on your part. Pulling numbers out of your ass isn't an argument. Fact of the matter is, Amaterasu's best feat on a Bijuu sized scale is hurting Hachibi after it got on it's body. Not proof or evidence it'll do the same to Kurama, who is more durable, and can block it from touching his body completely.
Amaterasu burning the Juubi is a much greater feat with or without Naruto's help the Juubi would have burned regardless and if we deduct the power Rasenshuriken adding to Amaterasu it still isn't the same as the Durability difference between Juubi and Kurama quit ignoring the argument and counter it. Kurama can be more durable than Hachibi but that doesn't mean it isn't going to burn or feel pain. Kurama is faster than Hachibi because Hachibi doesn't have legs. There is no proof that Kurama has better reaction time than Hachibi etc. How by trying to cover it's entire body with it's tails? L0l stop Hachibi was literally about 20 ft away he clearly seen Sasuke concentrating with his eyes closed he knew something was happing Kurama won't have the luxury or being anywhere near that close and Sasuke have to actually focus to use Amaterasu this time. As i've said before EMS Sasuke eye doesn't bleed.( ). Kurama gets smoked.


Hachibi managed to block it despite:

1. Being slower than Kurama.
2. Having zero intel on said jutsu.

Kurama is much faster with intel. Do the math. Lol.
Foot speed yes he has no other speed advantage over Hachibi unless you would like to post some scans of him reacting faster than Hachibi. Let's look at the advantages for Killer bee.

1. He was right in face in perfect seeing range
2. It was Sasuke first time using Amaterasu
3. He clearly seen blood coming from his eyes.

Again with the shockwaves BS? When you or unorthodox can give me evidence that Mountain cutting shockwaves are going to do shit to 12 Bijuu Dama then we can talk. Until then, all I see are empty arguments with zero evidence backing them.
Let's see here Madara's Ps shockwaves can travel miles on end with no sign of them losing there mountain busting force.( ). Twelve Bijuudama's or one the out come doesn't change since there all next to each other when one explode they all will.

I've countered your arguments. Hell, your arguments are barely arguments considering all you are doing is making assumptions with zero evidence backing them, and it's just the same shit I've already replied to in this thread. Lol. I think it's time for you to concede, or sit back and wait till unorthodox concedes or just stops replying considering you've done nothing but repeat his arguments.
L0l my arguments are based off assumptions what? L0l i gave you a pass with that "
Oxygen makes fire burn hotter and it increases the size, as seen when Kakashi's Suiton was evaporated by Kakuzu's Katon+Fuuton combo, and basic science proves my point.
Stop Amaterasu isn't even fire hell if Oxygen was really a factor with it it would be able to burn out but it doesn't which means alot of Oxygen or little Oxygen doesn't even change anything. Sit down before i have to turn into PC l0l.
 
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What is stopping Kurama from shedding his skin? These amaterasu one shot arguments get old. What is stopping the force of a roar from sending the flames away from Kurama's face?
 

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What is stopping Kurama from shedding his skin? These amaterasu one shot arguments get old. What is stopping the force of a roar from sending the flames away from Kurama's face?
Kurama can shed it's skin? L0l Kurama roar doesn't come from the epicenter of it's body like Shira Tensei it comes from it's mouth and it only pushed things forward so how in the would it push Amaterasu off it's body or face?
 

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Kurama can shed it's skin? L0l Kurama roar doesn't come from the epicenter of it's body like Shira Tensei it comes from it's mouth and it only pushed things forward so how in the would it push Amaterasu off it's body or face?
I don't see why not.

Going by your logic, the roar will only affect things on Kurama's lips but the roar is emanating from his vocal cords and then spreads out from there. You can still hear sound if you are beside or behind a person. No reason why a roar can't send a shockwave around the Kyuubi.
 

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I don't see why not.

Going by your logic, the roar will only affect things on Kurama's lips but the roar is emanating from his vocal cords and then spreads out from there. You can still hear sound if you are beside or behind a person. No reason why a roar can't send a shockwave around the Kyuubi.
No it will only affect things in front of Kurama as shown everytime Naruto or Kurama used there roar.( )-( )-( ). Not once have Kurama roar ever affected a 360 area. Your getting desperate here.

I want to hear more about Kurama shedding it's skin Lmao!!!
 

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No it will only affect things in front of Kurama as shown everytime Naruto or Kurama used there roar.( )-( )-( ). Not once have Kurama roar ever affected a 360 area. Your getting desperate here.

I want to hear more about Kurama shedding it's skin Lmao!!!
Well amaterasu will effect the front of Kurama unless Sasuke goes behind Kurama to do so. Like you said, Kurama roar effects the front of Kurama so any flame in front of Kurama gets blown away.

What is stopping Kurama from shedding its skin?
 
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