Genjutsu of that level aren't chakra taxing. Its not like they were using tsukuyomi. Kakashi and obito did the same thing and kakashi didn't look tired at all
Itachi hit sasuke with the tsukuyomi. It took a lot of yin energy for sasuke to break out of it.
Kakashi been fighting days. His ass should've been dead from exhausting his chakra. That's plot at it's finest. His ass was on bed rest for a week after a simple battle in part 1 when just using regular sharingan.
I doubt that. In base sasuke has never been shown to perform techniques as chakra taxing as naruto. Thousands of shadow clones and FRS etc
Sasuke in base got tired while fighting itachi after using 5 fire jutsu, 2 chidori and kirin. Not to mention using oro's chakra to assist him in said fight.
Naruto uses way more chakra taxing techniques against his opponents than sasuke. Sasuke matches naruto due to having more efficient techniques and being more skilled for most of the series.
You're actually wrong on that. With all that he used in the Itachi fight he was also using his base chakra to keep orochimaru at bay every jutsu he use the CM eats it and he used body shedding technique which is said to consume a enormous amount of chakra.
Itachi hit sasuke with the tsukuyomi. It took a lot of yin energy for sasuke to break out of it.
Kakashi been fighting days. His ass should've been dead from exhausting his chakra. That's plot at it's finest. His ass was on bed rest for a week after a simple battle in part 1 when just using regular sharingan.
Sasuke used curse mark, oro's chakra as well as his own chakra to break it, he should still have plenty of chakra left. And even still, sasuke got tired before itachi by your logic, a sick itachi could also master sage mode.
It isn't plot, just like everyone else kakashi can also improve. Sasuke got more accumstomed to his MS and later EMS and could use them for longer periods why not kakashi?
It is obvious that sasuke's chakra reserves are not on par with naruto's
Sasuke has both the chakra and the body to do it. It would only be a matter of time if he decides to learn sage mode, theoretically speaking. If he does, he doesn't even need as much time as pain arc naruto did to gather natural energy since he already possesses jugo's cells which passively absorbs natural energy.
You're actually wrong on that. With all that he used in the Itachi fight he was also using his base chakra to keep orochimaru at bay every jutsu he use the CM eats it and he used body shedding technique which is said to consume a enormous amount of chakra.
Lel, I am not wrong at all. Body sheding technique consumes a lot of chakra true, but not as much as hundreds of shadow clones or a FRS. Holding orochimaru is something similar to what jinchuriki have to deal with. You think non perfect jinchuriki don't use their chakra to hold back the bijuu?
Sasuke absorbed orochimaru because to him, the benefits outweighed the risks. He didn't just hold orochimaru he used oro's chakra to assist him in the fight much like how jinchuriki do with their bijuu
I doubt that. In base sasuke has never been shown to perform techniques as chakra taxing as naruto. Thousands of shadow clones and FRS etc
Sasuke in base got tired while fighting itachi after using 5 fire jutsu, 2 chidori and kirin. Not to mention using oro's chakra to assist him in said fight.
Naruto uses way more chakra taxing techniques against his opponents than sasuke. Sasuke matches naruto due to having more efficient techniques and being more skilled for most of the series.
Early Shippuden Naruto couldn't perform BigBall Rasengan without leaking some Kyuubi chakra but as the show progressed he spammed the shit out of it.
And in Itachi fights you're missing out few things. That last Fire Dragon jutsus are more taxing than regular Fire Ball.
And lets not forget Sasuke uses the Curse Mark several times which is also quite consuming.
He uses Orochimaru style Kawarimi which according to Itachi requires massive chakra because it is hard to detect.
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Sasuke breaks out of Itachi's Tsukiyomi even though Itachi allowed it doesn't mean it was easy.
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After breaking Sasuke is panting, meaning it used good amount of chakra to break it considering it is Tsukiyomi he is dealing with.
And lets not forget about a day or two ago he fought Deidara and almost died. Even though Orochimaru's powers healed him, it doesn't mean he was completly replenished.
Early Shippuden Naruto couldn't perform BigBall Rasengan without leaking some Kyuubi chakra but as the show progressed he spammed the shit out of it.
And in Itachi fights you're missing out few things. That last Fire Dragon jutsus are more taxing than regular Fire Ball.
And lets not forget Sasuke uses the Curse Mark several times which is also quite consuming.
He uses Orochimaru style Kawarimi which according to Itachi requires massive chakra because it is hard to detect.
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Sasuke breaks out of Itachi's Tsukiyomi even though Itachi allowed it doesn't mean it was easy.
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After breaking Sasuke is panting, meaning it used good amount of chakra to break it considering it is Tsukiyomi he is dealing with.
And lets not forget about a day or two ago he fought Deidara and almost died. Even though Orochimaru's powers healed him, it doesn't mean he was completly replenished.
I am not saying that sasuke's reserves are small, far from it. My point is that his overall chakra feats don't match naruto's.
You forget sasuke benefited from orochimaru's presence within him. His healing and recovery improved and he also gained access to orochimaru's own chakra. Both oro and sasuke have the same stamina ranking in the data book, this suggests that the amount of chakra he had available to him when he fought both deidara and itachi was roughly double what he would normally have.
Curse mark is consuming, its effects are similar to what naruto experienced when he first attained KCM but in naruto's case he had a bijuu draining his chakra and was still able to maintain it for 2 days.
Naruto also fought and used FRS twice against kakuzu despite training that whole day and not resting at all. FRS takes way more chakra than sasuke's fire style jutsu and chidori variants. Holding back an absorbed entity with one's own chakra is something naruto has been doing since birth.
Naruto was able to handle yang kyuubi with ease as a less than day old baby when an equivalent kyuubi was numbing minato's body.
At base naruto has way more chakra and a stronger body than sasuke.
I understand their chakra improved with time, but there was never a time when their base chakra was equivalent to my knowledge.
Lel, I am not wrong at all. Body sheding technique consumes a lot of chakra true, but not as much as hundreds of shadow clones or a FRS. Holding orochimaru is something similar to what jinchuriki have to deal with. You think non perfect jinchuriki don't use their chakra to hold back the bijuu?
Sasuke absorbed orochimaru because to him, the benefits outweighed the risks. He didn't just hold orochimaru he used oro's chakra to assist him in the fight much like how jinchuriki do with their bijuu
Sasuke never used orochimaru's chakra since he absorbed him only time he did was vs Itachi and that was because he tried to force more chakra out and orochimaru Became free.
Other part not at all everyone knows you have to suppress a Bijuu if you can't control em.
He pulled 9 CT simultaneously without breaking a sweat. I'm saying that their chakras growed in size as the show progressed, and someone that level of chakra could learn SM if Minato and Jiraiya did it.
You forget sasuke benefited from orochimaru's presence within him. His healing and recovery improved and he also gained access to orochimaru's own chakra. Both oro and sasuke have the same stamina ranking in the data book, this suggests that the amount of chakra he had available to him when he fought both deidara and itachi was roughly double what he would normally have.
I'm not overlooking it, Sasuke already was up a day after his fight with Deidara and commented on Orochimaru's healing powers. But that doesn't mean he was at %100. And Databook showed Stamina stats. Stamina is Yang related, not Yin. I was talking about Sasuke's Yin chakra not Yang.
Curse mark is consuming, its effects are similar to what naruto experienced when he first attained KCM but in naruto's case he had a bijuu draining his chakra and was still able to maintain it for 2 days.
This just proves their chakras increased greatly as the show progressed considering in the early shippuden even by using BigBall Rasengan Kyuubi's chakra was leaking. And Sasuke commented about how Itachi's powers are merging with him, meaning his powers were continuously increasing.
Naruto also fought and used FRS twice against kakuzu despite training that whole day and not resting at all. FRS takes way more chakra than sasuke's fire style jutsu and chidori variants. Holding back an absorbed entity with one's own chakra is something naruto has been doing since birth.
Again Yamato restrained him because Kyuubi's chakra was leaking, so it wasn't all his mojo there.
And with Kakuzu as well, Kyuubi's chakra was leaking so it wasn't base all there.
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Naruto was able to handle yang kyuubi with ease as a less than day old baby when an equivalent kyuubi was numbing minato's body.
Well he is Ashura's transmigrant, so it is understandable. Hagoromo's body was required to handle Juubi, Naruto's body was a lesser form of Hagoromo's because he is transmigrant of Ashura. I don't get how this is related with Sasuke's and Naruto's comparison.
At base naruto has way more chakra and a stronger body than sasuke.
At base Naruto has way more Yang(stamina) and stronger body than Sasuke. How does that means Sasuke can't use SM ? Is Naruto's body prowess is the set of lowest bar for using SM ? Can't some one have a weaker body than Naruto and also use SM perfectly ?
I understand their chakra improved with time, but there was never a time when their base chakra was equivalent to my knowledge.
Kage summit arc should explain Sasuke's Yin chakras level. Stamina and chakra are misunderstood by many, on top of that when you add Kyuubi's chakra people tend to think Naruto has more chakra as a base. When using Kyuubi he clearly has more chakra than Sasuke, but at base they're equal.
Its like Naruto's Yang/Yin Ratio is 6/4 while Sasuke's ratio is 4/6.
Sasuke never used orochimaru's chakra since he absorbed him only time he did was vs Itachi and that was because he tried to force more chakra out and orochimaru Became free.
Other part not at all everyone knows you have to suppress a Bijuu if you can't control em.
He did, it boost his reserves, absorbing oro improved both his reserves and his healing factor.
What I meant by suppressing bijuu is that part of a jinchuriki's base chakra is always used to keep the bijuu at bay and hold the seal in place. This is the same thing sasuke did to hold orochimaru back.
Jugo explicitly gave senjutsu to Sasuke because he couldn't absorb nature energy on his own. So how exactly is Sasuke supposed to master a mode that he can't even use w/o an exernal source exactly?
He did, it boost his reserves, absorbing oro improved both his reserves and his healing factor.
What I meant by suppressing bijuu is that part of a jinchuriki's base chakra is always used to keep the bijuu at bay and hold the seal in place. This is the same thing sasuke did to hold orochimaru back.
Absorbing orochimaru didn't boost his reserves. The power of the white snake improved his healing. He had access to all of orochimaru abilities but he used his own chakra for it while restraining orochimaru's chakra.
He pulled 9 CT simultaneously without breaking a sweat. I'm saying that their chakras growed in size as the show progressed, and someone that level of chakra could learn SM if Minato and Jiraiya did it.
I'm not overlooking it, Sasuke already was up a day after his fight with Deidara and commented on Orochimaru's healing powers. But that doesn't mean he was at %100. And Databook showed Stamina stats. Stamina is Yang related, not Yin. I was talking about Sasuke's Yin chakra not Yang.
This just proves their chakras increased greatly as the show progressed considering in the early shippuden even by using BigBall Rasengan Kyuubi's chakra was leaking. And Sasuke commented about how Itachi's powers are merging with him, meaning his powers were continuously increasing.
Again Yamato restrained him because Kyuubi's chakra was leaking, so it wasn't all his mojo there.
And with Kakuzu as well, Kyuubi's chakra was leaking so it wasn't base all there.
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Well he is Ashura's transmigrant, so it is understandable. Hagoromo's body was required to handle Juubi, Naruto's body was a lesser form of Hagoromo's because he is transmigrant of Ashura. I don't get how this is related with Sasuke's and Naruto's comparison.
At base Naruto has way more Yang(stamina) and stronger body than Sasuke. How does that means Sasuke can't use SM ? Is Naruto's body prowess is the set of lowest bar for using SM ? Can't some one have a weaker body than Naruto and also use SM perfectly ?
Kage summit arc should explain Sasuke's Yin chakras level. Stamina and chakra are misunderstood by many, on top of that when you add Kyuubi's chakra people tend to think Naruto has more chakra as a base. When using Kyuubi he clearly has more chakra than Sasuke, but at base they're equal.
Its like Naruto's Yang/Yin Ratio is 6/4 while Sasuke's ratio is 4/6.
We are talking about base not hogoromo enhanced sasuke. Why bring him into this? You want me to bring RSM naruto?
Stamina is what determines chakra levels since as ebisu explained, stamina is used to creat chakra. This is why ashura who inherited hogoromo's stamina has more chakra than indra same applies between hashirama and madara etc.
That's still base naruto with a negligible amount of kyuubi chakra. I mean his eyes weren't even red in the anime.
It has everything to do with this, mastering sage mode requires a strong body and vast chakra reserves, naruto being able to handle being a jinchuriki of the kyuubi as new born baby is a a testament to the strength of his body and the size of his reserves.
So now you acknowledge that naruto has a stronger body and more chakra? ok, point is we haven't seen anyone without senju/uzumaki DNA using sage mode perfectly, so it's safe to say those without it can only hope for an imperfect version. Sasuke could use it as he is now but not prior to his hogoromo power up.
There is nothing like yin chakra and yang chakra. People do not have two chakra reserves only one. I am assuming you mean spiritual energy and mental energy? Stamina means life-force or vitality, it is what is used to create chakra. Ebisu already explained this to naruto way back in part 1.
Yes people often overestimate naruto's reserves but sasuke doesn't have as much chakra as naruto.
Absorbing orochimaru didn't boost his reserves. The power of the white snake improved his healing. He had access to all of orochimaru abilities but he used his own chakra for it while restraining orochimaru's chakra.
Absorbing orochimaru didn't boost his own reserves but he had access to and used oro's power much like how jinchuriki use their bijuu power, the power of the bijuu obviously doesn't belong to the jinchuriki.
The healing power came from orochimaru's chakra and body, how can he use the healing power without using oro's chakra?
RSM is a chakra mode not base. Rinnegan isn't giving chakra. So it is Sasuke's base chakra, sharingan or Rinnegan never gave its users chakras. And we're talking about current Sasuke's chakra levels, not any other version.
Stamina is what determines chakra levels since as ebisu explained, stamina is used to creat chakra. This is why ashura who inherited hogoromo's stamina has more chakra than indra same applies between hashirama and madara etc.
All I see there Base Naruto can't mold enough chakra for FRS and Kyuubi's chakra comes in to compensate.
It has everything to do with this mastering sage mode requires a strong body and vast chakra reserves, naruto being able to handle being a jinchuriki of the kyuubi as new born baby is a a testament to the strength of his body and the size of his reserves.
So now you acknowledge that naruto has a stronger body and more chakra? ok, point is we haven't seen anyone without senju/uzumaki DNA using sage mode perfectly, so it's safe to say those without it can only hope for an imperfect version. Sasuke could use it as he is now but not prior to his hogoromo power up.
Firstly I don't remember saying Naruto has weaker body than Sasuke. And I never said Base Naruto has more chakra than Sasuke either. What I'm saying is Naruto has more Yang while Sasuke has more Yin, they're equal in base. I hope you won't claim that Minato is a Senju now. Lol
There is nothing like yin chakra and yang chakra. People do not have two chakra reserves only one. I am assuming you mean spiritual energy and mental energy? Stamina means life-force or vitality, it is what is used to create chakra. Ebisu already explained this to naruto way back in part 1.
Well I meant the energy no need to get agitated about it, since it doesn't changing anything about my point. Stamina isn't equal to Yang, but they're in a relation with each other. Yang is representing physical energy, is it that hard to understand they're related ?
Yes people often overestimate naruto's reserves but sasuke doesn't have as much chakra as naruto.
The word you're looking for is underestimate. And to answer you, no I'm not underestimating Naruto's chakra. You're the one who doesn't grasp the concept of Yin and Yang.
