[Predictions] Naruto Manga 488 Discussion and 489 Predictions

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I was thinking when ol girl was comparing Naruto's dark charkra to the uchia's, Itachi's really. But then again she could be comparing Naruto's charkra to Killerbee's. Juat a thought.
Unlikely. If you look back at the last few issues, Karin was commenting about how Sasuke's chakra is dark, cold, and evil. These are some of the same things she said about the Fox's chakra inside Naruto.

Karin never once mentioned that Killer Bee's chakra was dark or evil. In fact, when we look at the interaction between Killer Bee and the 8-tailed Ox, we see that the Ox is much more helpful and friendly than the 9-tailed fox is. I don't think the 8-tails has evil chakra, but we know that the 9-tails does.

Itachi also wouldn't have had evil chakra. Itachi was secretly good: He saved his village, protected his brother, gave intelligence back to Konoha about Akatsuki, etc. This is all not to mention that Karin never really met Itachi in person, and would likely not know what his chakra was like.

I think Karin was definitely comparing the Fox's evil chakra, inside Naruto, to Sasuke's evil chakra.
 

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also on naruto saying he cant beat sasuke. i agree with what you said in a way. but i meant kishi needs to give us a reason as to why sasuke had such great chakra reserves.

also your link didnt really add much to the convo as it is kinda out of place.
having a boost in confidence and a boost in chakra/life are two different things.
itachi and kimimaru (im guessing kabuto gave him some) was on drugs to keep them alive and when jiraiya "died" all we really know is that he forced himself to wake up and keep his body going as his mind had not yet died.

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but sasukes chakra reserves suddenly growing and sasuke not only staying alive but going out fighting and walking of like it was nothing after running on empty for a while with no explanation is too much.
kakashi has done something like that a fair few times and he was always stuck in bed for weeks at a time.
Yeah, this is something that's been bothering me for a few days. Where the hell is Sasuke getting all his chakra from? Sure, we can say "he gets more power when he gets angry", but that really seems like a lousy excuse.

Remember back to when Kakashi was teaching Sasuke the chidori, and he said that using too much chakra could be fatal? Yet here Sasuke is, seemingly using more and more chakra than he has to spare with no side-effects. Remember Kakashi using Kamui too much? Remember Tsunade using too much chakra on her slug summon? Remember Nagato using too much chakra on his life technique? Any while I'm at it, if anybody had severe anger issues it was Nagato, and his chakra was far from limited considering how weak and gaunt his body became.

And even after the kage summit where Sasuke spammed MS techs, and the fight with Danzo where he LOST HIS DAMN MS because he used them so much. Even with all that, Naruto (who recently defeated Pain and is freshly rested) thinks that Sasuke is more powerful?

Doesn't Sasuke have any limits?

Of course, Naruto could have lied. Naruto might have known that Sasuke was weak, but instead of fighting Naruto gave Sasuke a message. Maybe Naruto is looking for a big, evenly-matched battle, and Sasuke was too weak to put up a fight just then. If Naruto really wants to fight until both of them die, then he can't start a fight when Sasuke is really weak. That's a possibility, and I don't really doubt it. Otherwise, Naruto is going to have to do some miracle training to get onto the same level as Sasuke.
 

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Unlikely. If you look back at the last few issues, Karin was commenting about how Sasuke's chakra is dark, cold, and evil. These are some of the same things she said about the Fox's chakra inside Naruto.

Karin never once mentioned that Killer Bee's chakra was dark or evil. In fact, when we look at the interaction between Killer Bee and the 8-tailed Ox, we see that the Ox is much more helpful and friendly than the 9-tailed fox is. I don't think the 8-tails has evil chakra, but we know that the 9-tails does.

Itachi also wouldn't have had evil chakra. Itachi was secretly good: He saved his village, protected his brother, gave intelligence back to Konoha about Akatsuki, etc. This is all not to mention that Karin never really met Itachi in person, and would likely not know what his chakra was like.

I think Karin was definitely comparing the Fox's evil chakra, inside Naruto, to Sasuke's evil chakra.
this is the most mind blowing of all my predictions.
what would you lot say if i was to say that maybe Itachi was the one to give Jiraiya all his information on akatsuki?
as itachi was playing out his last hand he gave jiraiya information on Pein, gave naruto a secret power and battled sasuke to remove orochimaru and give sasuke his MS and EMS?

that would make itachi that much cooler if he was jiraiyas informant from behind the scenes.

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It is your opinion to agree/disagree with the logic/theories I provided. Okay, this was Tsunade’s doing, Orochimaru realized it and she confirmed it. Although, how does this compare to that of Jiraiya? It was never confirmed in that situation how he was able to come back to life except for Fukasaku’s assumption which was resulting from direct willpower. You’re doing the same by assuming that Tsunade’s chakra disruption method is what he used. Although, neither are confirmed and the willpower seemed more likely in my opinion, based on the elder toad frog’s experience/old age.

i put the tsunade vs kabuto image in for orochimarus section on the top left.
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i was saying we know jiraiya was still able to use his brain and seeing as it moves your body using electricity he could have used it as a defibrillator so to speak to give his heart and body that little bit of energy left to write the message.

your final words where more of what i was looking for and it explained sasukes power up alot better. but for it to suddenly happen like 5 times in a single day is far too much. if it happened in a week then ok. thats almost a powerup a day but in one day.

the reference to kakashi was just to show what happens when someone uses too much chakra which sasuke did.
naruto ran out of chakra when he fought pein so how can sasuke hope to not use all of his during his fight with the 5 kages, body guards and team 7?

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we know he was running on empty so why could he move? its such a drag.

the only bright side is that sasuke doesnt have much powerups left to go through.
after he gets kamui, time space ninjutsu, another new sharingan tech, the jyubi, izanagi, rinnegan, gedo mazo (which most likely he will get all of) he will be out of luck as naruto will learn even better jutsu making his own super ultimate world ending jutsu........
the jiggly puff song.

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Doesn't Sasuke have any limits?
Well, take a look below:




Here we have a terminal Itachi via illness spamming Sasuke with Amaterasu until he catches a part of his body.


Here Itachi is sighing/feeling the effects of Mangekyou and yet still is able to continue the fight whilst possessing the deadly illness.

Mangekyou seems to be a very possible/logical reason as to why Sasuke is able to excel himself than he could before acquiring it hence the Itachi fight where Sasuke was at his limits as it seems to grant the user overall enhancements.


Sasuke indeed has his limits and feels the effects of his Mangekyou as seen from various times where he clutches his eye and sighs heavily. Here we can observe Sasuke falling onto his behind from exhaustion and seemingly at the end of his own chakra when Karin offers her chakra in which he accepts, hence how Sasuke finished Danzou off.

If you still have doubts as to Sasuke having limits or feeling the drawbacks of Mangekyou then take a look at these:








In every page there is a panel(s) where Sasuke coughs out blood, sighs heavily, etc. Again, he is not GOD but most likely has an extraordinary beyond human limits willpower and his ancestry can also be a factor.

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we know he was running on empty so why could he move? its such a drag.
Check out my links above as it shows Karin and Sasuke where her chakra bite enables him to continue to move/fight/use jutsu. Apparently the chakra he fed off of her gave him more than enough to stand up and continue on aside from the other factors that come into play with him.​
 
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the only bright side is that sasuke doesnt have much powerups left to go through.
after he gets kamui, time space ninjutsu, another new sharingan tech, the jyubi, izanagi, rinnegan, gedo mazo (which most likely he will get all of) he will be out of luck as naruto will learn even better jutsu making his own super ultimate world ending jutsu........


you're really funny! :D nice one! srry for the bad quote....
 
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Well, take a look below:




Here we have a terminal Itachi via illness spamming Sasuke with Amaterasu until he catches a part of his body.


Here Itachi is sighing/feeling the effects of Mangekyou and yet still is able to continue the fight whilst possessing the deadly illness.

Mangekyou seems to be a very possible/logical reason as to why Sasuke is able to excel himself than he could before acquiring it hence the Itachi fight where Sasuke was at his limits as it seems to grant the user overall enhancements.


Sasuke indeed has his limits and feels the effects of his Mangekyou as seen from various times where he clutches his eye and sighs heavily. Here we can observe Sasuke falling onto his behind from exhaustion and seemingly at the end of his own chakra when Karin offers her chakra in which he accepts, hence how Sasuke finished Danzou off.

If you still have doubts as to Sasuke having limits or feeling the drawbacks of Mangekyou then take a look at these:








In every page there is a panel(s) where Sasuke coughs out blood, sighs heavily, etc. Again, he is not GOD but most likely has an extraordinary beyond human limits willpower and his ancestry can also be a factor.



Check out my links above as it shows Karin and Sasuke where her chakra bite enables him to continue to move/fight/use jutsu. Apparently the chakra he fed off of her gave him more than enough to stand up and continue on aside from the other factors that come into play with him.​
You are a pretty good lawyer, aren't you Sasuke?
 

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the only bright side is that sasuke doesnt have much powerups left to go through.
after he gets kamui, time space ninjutsu, another new sharingan tech, the jyubi, izanagi, rinnegan, gedo mazo (which most likely he will get all of) he will be out of luck as naruto will learn even better jutsu making his own super ultimate world ending jutsu........


you're really funny! :D nice one!
Orochimaru it's time for you to give Sasuke lesson...
 

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Itachi Sama
Where is there evidence in the manga where Itachi took medication? Aside from rumors which is not evident but rather more like speculation in the manga. Kimimaro had been under medication, etc. via Kabuto but when he decided to put his life on the line to retrieve Sasuke for Orochimaru, he disconnected himself from tubes, IV, etc. From then on, it was his willpower that medicated him as it even came out of his mouth in little words. As for Jiraiya, the fact that he came back to life via his willpower is what is relevant. Anything else that occurred afterward is irrelevant as we?re pinpointing their willpower/feats alone. There are many factors that play into Sasuke when it comes to how much farther he can excel himself. Things such as hatred/willpower/ancestry/Mangekyou are likely relevant or possible "logic".
About the Itachi Medications

I did a little research on this and this is what i found:They aren't rumors, in the ANIME it says that he was fatally sick and had to take drugs( Madara said it) It said he took the drugs only because he wanted to die in Sasuke's hands not like in a bed. If you wanna see it go to this link (its naruto base)

The time of the video it is around is 13:45 thats when it says it. Of course, the anime doesn't always say the same info as the manga and adds more info that isn't really needed for the plot line xd
 
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About the Itachi Medications

I did a little research on this and this is what i found:They aren't rumors, in the ANIME it says that he was fatally sick and had to take drugs( Madara said it) It said he took the drugs only because he wanted to die in Sasuke's hands not like in a bed. If you wanna see it go to this link (its naruto base)

The time of the video it is around is 13:45 thats when it says it. Of course, the anime doesn't always say the same info as the manga and adds more info that isn't really needed for the plotline
I think he meant actual evidence of it, like the manga, etc. but that was really nice of you to take your valuable time to share that information with those who may have been unaware of it, even it was anime, lol. >.<;

Madara didn't know everything about Itachi, he didn't know about the failsafe so a chance still remains that what he stated could have been an assumption. Don’t get me wrong though; there is still a possibility of it being true. I’m just trying to say that nobody can truly be certain about it unless Itachi himself returns to state himself what he did, a databook is released containing information on it, etc.

Although If he did take them I don't think it played a dramatic role during his performance because he himself chose to die and was able to do so when we pleased, if the medication was preventing death then he shouldn't have been able to give into the illness and die. The whole entire subject is still quite obscure and wasn’t explained in enough detail. Hopefully we can all gain some insight to this in the future.
 

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I think he meant actual evidence of it, like the manga, etc. but that was really nice of you to take your valuable time to share that information with those who may have been unaware of it, even it was anime, lol. >.<;

Madara didn't know everything about Itachi, he didn't know about the failsafe so a chance still remains that what he stated could have been an assumption. Don?t get me wrong though; there is still a possibility of it being true. I?m just trying to say that nobody can truly be certain about it unless Itachi himself returns to state himself what he did, a databook is released containing information on it, etc.

Although If he did take them I don't think it played a dramatic role during his performance because he himself chose to die and was able to do so when we pleased, if the medication was preventing death then he shouldn't have been able to give into the illness and die. The whole entire subject is still quite obscure and wasn?t explained in enough detail. Hopefully we can all gain some insight to this in the future.
True that... I know the Anime isn't the greatest source as i already said in my other post i was just saying that they aren't just rumors someone must have watched the anime and assumed it was in the manga too. Hmm... maybe they should check before they say it.
Anyways, according to the anime he was going to die anyways so he just went to sasuke and died in his hand, maybe now that he had finished his "duty" for Sasuke to be great he just gave in to his illness. i thought it said somewhere he was barely alive. He was probably only alive because of the medication and his determination. It wouldn't be hard to give in to an illness that is going to kill you anyways. :mad: poor Itachi :(
 
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