[Discussion] Why are Aizen fans so rustled?

[I'm stupid real stupid]

In all the Bleach fourms and Bleach FB pages all the Aizen fans are saying BS like "Its all part of Aizens plan" or "Yhwach is an illusion" or "Yhwach isn't a godly being like Aizen"
They still think Aizen is the final villan

Quit crying
His Majesty is wayyyyyy better than Aizen and he can defeat Hogyoku Aizen with his eyes closed. Dat Yhwach.

Even his appearance is much cooler and badass than that mutant butterfly.

Cant wait to see what restrictions Kubo puts on his Majesty and the ass pull powerup Ichigo will get


Anyway why do people like Aizen more than his Majesty?

 

[Izou Xaxa]

well Aizen is a very creative Villain
He is very unpredictable
Yhwach is for the most people too OP
Ansd Aizens goal is more interesting

 

[Red Flag X Drake]

Aizen will probably be the final villain. Like he and ichigo will stomp out Yhwach then he will double cross them

 

[Mahesvara]

In all the Bleach fourms and Bleach FB pages all the Aizen fans are saying BS like "Its all part of Aizens plan" or "Yhwach is an illusion" or "Yhwach isn't a godly being like Aizen"
They still think Aizen is the final villan

Quit crying
His Majesty is wayyyyyy better than Aizen and he can defeat Hogyoku Aizen with his eyes closed. Dat Yhwach.

Even his appearance is much cooler and badass than that mutant butterfly.

Cant wait to see what restrictions Kubo puts on his Majesty and the ass pull powerup Ichigo will get


Anyway why do people like Aizen more than his Majesty?

Aizen is just a better character, simple is that.

 

[Izou Xaxa]

Aizen will probably be the final villain. Like he and ichigo will stomp out Yhwach then he will double cross them

Agree I think Aizen will play with Yhwach
i really do think Aizen predicted everything

 

[Ken Kaneki]

Believe in the over hype. Aizen is not that good. There I said it.

 

[Goetia]

Yhwach has no character. His goal? Same as Aizen's. His personality? Similar to Aizen's. His powers? Considered about as powerful as Aizen's. Who came first? Aizen. Who is considered the better villain? Aizen. Why? Because in a single chapter, he evoked the largest reaction from the Bleach fandom. Aizen, in a few panels, did something larger than anything Yhwach has done this entire arc. People like Yhwach over Aizen purely because of his powers? That's petty, considering Aizen is powerful to a fault in Bleach and people still like him for other reasons on top of his strength. Yhwach has no personality. People think he's a good character simply because of the way the plot has always been on his side, which allowed him to accomplish his goals. The plot was against Aizen for a majority, if not all, of the time he was the villain. And even with only 10 soldiers and 2 comrades on his side, Aizen got very close to doing what he set out to do. Yhwach sacrificed the better half of thousands of soldiers to accomplish something Aizen almost did with only 13 other people. Now that I think about it, I cannot come up with any reason other than strength and power for which people like Yhwach.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Yhwach has no character. His goal? Same as Aizen's. His personality? Similar to Aizen's. His powers? Considered about as powerful as Aizen's. Who came first? Aizen. Who is considered the better villain? Aizen. Why? Because in a single chapter, he evoked the largest reaction from the Bleach fandom. Aizen, in a few panels, did something larger than anything Yhwach has done this entire arc. People like Yhwach over Aizen purely because of his powers? That's petty, considering Aizen is powerful to a fault in Bleach and people still like him for other reasons on top of his strength. Yhwach has no personality. People think he's a good character simply because of the way the plot has always been on his side, which allowed him to accomplish his goals. The plot was against Aizen for a majority, if not all, of the time he was the villain. And even with only 10 soldiers and 2 comrades on his side, Aizen got very close to doing what he set out to do. Yhwach sacrificed the better half of thousands of soldiers to accomplish something Aizen almost did with only 13 other people. Now that I think about it, I cannot come up with any reason other than strength and power for which people like Yhwach.

Aizen doesn't even have a back story :/

 

[Goetia]

Aizen doesn't even have a back story :/

I'm not surprised this came up. Sure, Aizen doesn't have a backstory. Yhwach may have one, but is doesn't have much explanation and neither does his goal. He wants to kill the Soul King because...he's mad that the Quincy got destroyed by the Soul Society? The so-called greatest enemy in Bleach is driven by a petty vendetta whereby the basis of such vendetta is ridiculous? Aizen couldn't care less for vendetta, or personal feuds. He saw the Soul King as false, a being not worthy of the title or status of god. Even if his goals weren't completely explained, Aizen was still more interesting as a villain.

 

[Zeta42]

Yhwach isn't as interesting as Aizen. Until recently, he's been doing nothing but watching. Trolling Yamamoto and fighting Ichibei was great, but Aizen has done a lot more.

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

In all the Bleach fourms and Bleach FB pages all the Aizen fans are saying BS like "Its all part of Aizens plan" or "Yhwach is an illusion" or "Yhwach isn't a godly being like Aizen"
They still think Aizen is the final villan

Quit crying
His Majesty is wayyyyyy better than Aizen and he can defeat Hogyoku Aizen with his eyes closed. Dat Yhwach.

Even his appearance is much cooler and badass than that mutant butterfly.

Cant wait to see what restrictions Kubo puts on his Majesty and the ass pull powerup Ichigo will get


Anyway why do people like Aizen more than his Majesty?

Their rustled? Sounds like you are rustled too and stop with this "his majesty" its creepy

Trouble is with Yhwach is that he isn't a very good villain. He is in many ways, a carbon copy of Aizen, even the things he says mirror what Aizen has said. He also too OP, there is no fun in a character that just walks in and its over, its not believable. At least Aizen would be damaged by the others and he was also too OP.

A good villain example would be Vegeta, though he was far stronger than the Z fighters, they could damage him, which made the fight far more interesting. When watching a fight with Yhwach and Aizen its just like "oh for Pete's sake, no ones THAT powerful"

Also, his design is not that great, that moustache is hilarious. Aizen was appealing in appearance because he was handsome, cold eyed and majestically impressive. Yhwach does sort of look like an old tramp who needs a shave, not a popular design for a comic aimed at 12 year old boys.

I hope we do get a different final villain because otherwise it will just be everybody being laid to waste and Ichigo getting beat up until he pulls out some ludicrous new power and one shots Yhwach...not very interesting.

I'm not surprised this came up. Sure, Aizen doesn't have a backstory. Yhwach may have one, but is doesn't have much explanation and neither does his goal. He wants to kill the Soul King because...he's mad that the Quincy got destroyed by the Soul Society? The so-called greatest enemy in Bleach is driven by a petty vendetta whereby the basis of such vendetta is ridiculous? Aizen couldn't care less for vendetta, or personal feuds. He saw the Soul King as false, a being not worthy of the title or status of god. Even if his goals weren't completely explained, Aizen was still more interesting as a villain.

True, the Quincy had to be destroyed because they were destroying the balance of nature and were too arrogant to listen.

But then Aizen had pretty pathetic motivations as well, his motivation was nothing more that petty arrogance and least Yhwach is mourning his people. This is an area where again Kubo fails, his characters usually have pathetic motivations, look at Gin.

Childhood crush gets beat up once, swears to kill guy who did it, gets killed, leaves girl to mourn him in misery the rest of her life, he ended up hurting Rengiku more than Aizen ever could.

 

[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

Yhwach has no character. His goal? Same as Aizen's. His personality? Similar to Aizen's. His powers? Considered about as powerful as Aizen's. Who came first? Aizen. Who is considered the better villain? Aizen. Why? Because in a single chapter, he evoked the largest reaction from the Bleach fandom. Aizen, in a few panels, did something larger than anything Yhwach has done this entire arc. People like Yhwach over Aizen purely because of his powers? That's petty, considering Aizen is powerful to a fault in Bleach and people still like him for other reasons on top of his strength. Yhwach has no personality. People think he's a good character simply because of the way the plot has always been on his side, which allowed him to accomplish his goals. The plot was against Aizen for a majority, if not all, of the time he was the villain. And even with only 10 soldiers and 2 comrades on his side, Aizen got very close to doing what he set out to do. Yhwach sacrificed the better half of thousands of soldiers to accomplish something Aizen almost did with only 13 other people. Now that I think about it, I cannot come up with any reason other than strength and power for which people like Yhwach.

The only thing I was doing in this thread was looking for you reply as I know, no one can double cross sosuke aizen in your presence

 

[Goetia]

Their rustled? Sounds like you are rustled too and stop with this "his majesty" its creepy

Trouble is with Yhwach is that he isn't a very good villain. He is in many ways, a carbon copy of Aizen, even the things he says mirror what Aizen has said. He also too OP, there is no fun in a character that just walks in and its over, its not believable. At least Aizen would be damaged by the others and he was also too OP.

A good villain example would be Vegeta, though he was far stronger than the Z fighters, they could damage him, which made the fight far more interesting. When watching a fight with Yhwach and Aizen its just like "oh for Pete's sake, no ones THAT powerful"

Also, his design is not that great, that moustache is hilarious. Aizen was appealing in appearance because he was handsome, cold eyed and majestically impressive. Yhwach does sort of look like an old tramp who needs a shave, not a popular design for a comic aimed at 12 year old boys.

I hope we do get a different final villain because otherwise it will just be everybody being laid to waste and Ichigo getting beat up until he pulls out some ludicrous new power and one shots Yhwach...not very interesting.



True, the Quincy had to be destroyed because they were destroying the balance of nature and were too arrogant to listen.

But then Aizen had pretty pathetic motivations as well, his motivation was nothing more that petty arrogance and least Yhwach is mourning his people. This is an area where again Kubo fails, his characters usually have pathetic motivations, look at Gin.

Childhood crush gets beat up once, swears to kill guy who did it, gets killed, leaves girl to mourn him in misery the rest of her life, he ended up hurting Rengiku more than Aizen ever could.

Depending on how you look at it, his arrogance is either a magnet or a deterrent for liking his character. I really like Aizen's arrogance, because it is justified for the most part. He is incredibly smart, he is incredibly powerful, and he knows that he is a lot more powerful than many people. However, there is a fine line between arrogance and stupidity, especially for Aizen. When he fought Ichigo after he came out of the Dangai, he continued to think he was far above Ichigo when he really wasn't (until the very end of the fight). Aizen is a really black and white character in terms of his fanbase. You either like him, or you don't. There's no "meh, he's okay." At least from what I've seen.

 

[NaNaNaaaaa]

Depending on how you look at it, his arrogance is either a magnet or a deterrent for liking his character. I really like Aizen's arrogance, because it is justified for the most part. He is incredibly smart, he is incredibly powerful, and he knows that he is a lot more powerful than many people. However, there is a fine line between arrogance and stupidity, especially for Aizen. When he fought Ichigo after he came out of the Dangai, he continued to think he was far above Ichigo when he really wasn't (until the very end of the fight). Aizen is a really black and white character in terms of his fanbase. You either like him, or you don't. There's no "meh, he's okay." At least from what I've seen.

I think his meh Okay LOL

Being powerful doesn't make you a good leader though and yes, I liked the way AIzen was coloured in that his arrogance was his undoing, a good outing on Kubo's part for once

 

[realobito1]

Because aizen is like the other guy but he was the original. Plus aizen is way more subtle. Making Amazing things seem easy is cool. yhwach just seems like he is trying to hard. Aizen knows that he will succeed(even if he did not, lol)

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yhwach has no character. His goal? Same as Aizen's. His personality? Similar to Aizen's. His powers? Considered about as powerful as Aizen's. Who came first? Aizen. Who is considered the better villain? Aizen. Why? Because in a single chapter, he evoked the largest reaction from the Bleach fandom. Aizen, in a few panels, did something larger than anything Yhwach has done this entire arc. People like Yhwach over Aizen purely because of his powers? That's petty, considering Aizen is powerful to a fault in Bleach and people still like him for other reasons on top of his strength. Yhwach has no personality. People think he's a good character simply because of the way the plot has always been on his side, which allowed him to accomplish his goals. The plot was against Aizen for a majority, if not all, of the time he was the villain. And even with only 10 soldiers and 2 comrades on his side, Aizen got very close to doing what he set out to do. Yhwach sacrificed the better half of thousands of soldiers to accomplish something Aizen almost did with only 13 other people. Now that I think about it, I cannot come up with any reason other than strength and power for which people like Yhwach.

75% of this is pure fanboy shits.

Aizen did not want to destroy the SK so no their goals aren't the same. No Ywach is gentle and he would have like to do things without all this chaos as he said in earlier chapters. Aizen is over confident and just boring to watch in action with all his i planned everything BS. There powers are nothing alike. So what is Aizen came first how is that anything impressive? All Aizen did was beat up the Gotei 13 and took out Yamamoto. Ywach Killed Yamamoto took his Bankai and splattered the body of the strongest shinigami(Ichibei) into multiple pieces stabbed the soul King through his chest and then Had Ichigo finish him off. What they've accomplished aren't comparable. Plot being on his side what? Plot against Aizen what? You sound stupid if anything plot favored them both especially Aizen. I would like to see Aizen and his espanda barge in the RG palace and wreck the Royal Guards and then split the soul king in half.

 

[Goetia]

75% of this is pure fanboy shits.

Aizen did not want to destroy the SK so no their goals aren't the same. No Ywach is gentle and he would have like to do things without all this chaos as he said in earlier chapters. Aizen is over confident and just boring to watch in action with all his i planned everything BS. There powers are nothing alike. So what is Aizen came first how is that anything impressive? All Aizen did was beat up the Gotei 13 and took out Yamamoto. Ywach Killed Yamamoto took his Bankai and splattered the body of the strongest shinigami(Ichibei) into multiple pieces stabbed the soul King through his chest and then Had Ichigo finish him off. What they've accomplished aren't comparable. Plot being on his side what? Plot against Aizen what? You sound stupid if anything plot favored them both especially Aizen. I would like to see Aizen and his espanda barge in the RG palace and wreck the Royal Guards and then split the soul king in half.

Aizen did want to kill the Soul King. That's why he did everything he did. Why else would he go to Karakura Town to create the Oken? Saying otherwise is plain stupid. If you think Aizen is boring to watch in a fight, I can't imagine how you think Yhwach is any better. Aizen showed no interest in killing the Gotei 13, except for Yamamoto. And he would've gone back to finish the job had Ichigo not intervened. Yhwach killed and stole the Bankai of a man who was already exhausted from obliterating a Quincy who he thought was Yhwach. That isn't impressive. It's tactics, sure. But it says a lot about how badly Yamamoto would've beaten Yhwach if it was the real Yhwach vs Yamamoto. The "Almighty" is a load of crap really (goes back to how I said Yhwach always had the plot on his side). The plot was very much against Aizen. The number of Espada at his disposal kept decreasing, while the number of people he had to fight kept increasing. That isn't really favouring Aizen's cause, is it? Was the fact that Aizen had to defeat most of the Gotei 13 himself because of the Espada's incompetence, an instance of the plot favouring Aizen? If anything, the odds kept stacking against him. Aizen is the one of the smartest individuals in Bleach bar Urahara, so I wouldn't doubt that he knew he had the capability to kill the RG. The only purpose the Espada served was to weaken the Gotei 13, then he would finish off the rest and head off to the Royal Realm.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

I like Aizen more than Yhwach, but Yhwach is overall better villain, he is what true evil is.

Aizen is also pritier than Yhwach, but that don't make villain - villain.

I never saw anyone on Bleach Asylum fanboying over Aizen.

 

[BlueToweR12]

100% True
I don't like Lord Aizen-sama. Oh wait...