Mokuton!
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3rdSwordsmanOfTheMist
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Basically, any advanced skill ninja with stolen Hashirama cells could use Mokuton. Then why should Naruto be different. I still think that using others bodies to upgrade yours is sick, and that inventor of this idea is sick too.
Rinnegan Genjutsu would work on Perfect Jinchuriki, but chakra disruption says hi. Unless Sasuke has a Infinite Tsukuyomi in his right pocket, your argument is just as much invalid as the first.You must be registered for see images
The only reason why Sasuke left Naruto out was because he wanted to fight him. Without the Bijuus, Naruto is not a perfect Jin. Rinnegan Genjutsu one-shots.
You do realize that the Bijuu has to realize that the Jinchuriki is under a genjutsu to affect him, right? "Plot" aside which was used for that scene for him to understand Hinata's feelings.
The Genjutsu itself was a mix of memories only. I believe memories of Hinata, there was no real strain to any of the character's bodies, mental nor physical. It was an embodiment of their memories together, hence why Kurama probably did not break him out of the Genjutsu. It was more like a dream. Does the dream sound familiar to you? Is there any other Genjutsu's in the manga that involve dreaming, and cannot be broken out from? XD
Then there was no need to thank Sakura if he could break it himself?IIRC Shikamaru even said "Its a good thing Sakura was with us" suggesting Naruto doesnt have those skills
There were 3 instances of Naruto being subjected to Genjutsu in the series.In all of them he sucked big time and and the user wasnt even trying in his first 2.I want Naruto to show a feat of breaking genjutsu not that "he is a perfect jin so he easily can" BS .Feats not speculation.Not to mention he is shown to be wary of Itachi's Tsukuyomi when Edo Itachi attacked both of them.Personally I doubt it if the movie is to be believed plot or not
Sasuke didn't place Naruto in his genjutsu with the so called "solo glance" so it's safe to assume that the filler genjutsu was more powerful than anything sasuke could muster up seeing as he was trying to kill Naruto. If genjutsu would have worked sauce would have used but he didn't cuz he knew Naruto would neg diff it just like amaterasu.
Yeah Naruto could not break it by himself. Well, that is a wrong statement too considering the fact that Naruto did not even seem like he was trying to break the Genjutsu out of his mind. He was watching the scenes unfold, it would be logical to say that Sakura was the only one trying to release herself from it. If the case was that Sakura was the only normal shinobi to break out of the memory-genjutsu, then it just means that Kurama did not break him out. Unless you can show me where Kurama actually made communication with Naruto, and failed to break him out of it.
None of which was he in Perfect Jinchuriki format. Funny enough, Tsukuyomi still takes down any Jinchuriki, because of how it operates.
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You're not really helping your case here, thats the actual goal of the genjutsu, distracting the user with pleasant memories, and Naruto fell right into the trap Lol
Even Sakura noticed and broke out of it
You are not really reading it out. Genjutsu that involves with REAL memories from an actual person, is not the same as a Genjutsu that affects you "Refer to Sasuke's scene".
There is a big difference between actual memories in this case, and the implanted one's in the genjutsu. Which I am sure is why Kurama never tried to break him out of it. Saying plot, this or plot that won't really help the case since you believe Kurama would not break him out of it by himself. lol
The movie literally never had them communicate at all through tailed beast telepathy. I doubt they cared for it either
You obviously don't understand the reason why the caster placed that genjutsu in the first place, its not there to make their enemy feel better with good memories, its there to distract them, and both Kurama and Naruto failed to realise that while Sakura did Lol
Anyway Kurama should have realised Naruto fell into genjutsu, since the genjutsu would have manipulated Narutos chakra flow, doesn't take the person to be physically or mentally affected to know their under genjutsu
One thing we also have to realize is that the memories which Naruto looked at were crucial to the plot and it's not like he could have broken it even if he was a perfect jinchuuriki because it was a major part of the movie and we all know at the end of the day that the pen is>everything in NV. What we do know is sasuke fought Naruto and never once placed him into a genjutsu, probably because of what happened with him and bee. movie and manga feats should never be grouped together because even though kishi influenced the plot he wasn't in 100% in control of the action.
Sigh. Did you watch the movie at all? Naruto and Hinata were the only two placed in the Genjutsu that had their mind connected. Everyone else was secluded, but Naruto and Hinata moved inside of the ball of "Genjutsu" and the scarf connected their memories together.
Saying that both Kurama and Naruto failed to realize it was a Genjutsu is pretty much an assumption on your part when you have no valid excuse for Kurama not shown to try to break him out of it. Funny enough Kurama was only shown towards the end of the movie itself. But when you can bring a valid excuse for Kurama or any other Tailed Beast not having the prowess to understand or to know when a Genjutsu is being used on their Bijuu outside of Tsukuyomi. Then we can progress this forward.
Sasuke obviously didn't use the genjutsu for plot reasons, saying a genjutsu which took Sakura literally a few mintues to break being stronger than Sasukes who took out 9 bijuus with a single glance is just stupid
Naruto falling under that genjutsu isn't the problem since even a perfect jin isn't immune, its how he got out of it, Naruto being a perfect jin he could have easily had Kurama break him out instead of Sakura, just how the eight tails broke out bee from itachi's genjutsu [
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And it's also a movie, plot demanded that we see the memories that were shown to Naruto in the genjutsu but one thing is certain, Sasuke fought Naruto with everything he had to try and kill him and he didn't use genjutsu, obviously he knows it's no good since he's not a dumbass and movie feats shouldn't be grouped with manga feats which state perfect jins can break genjutsu.
Transcendence
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Danzo's chakra wasn't strong enough at the level he was (near death) to overcome the strength of Hashirama's cells. Naruto's is tiers stronger and wouldn't have any problems.
OT: Logically, he should be able to, but I doubt we'll see him use it. But with his Senjutsu amplifying it, we could see some obscene feats from him. Similar to Madara's planetary level Mokuton (since Naruto has superior Senjutsu to Madara it would make sense he has stronger Mokuton).
Omar19992010
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I highly doubt he could use it considering he never used it in the Last and even if he did it have it would be a similar case to Obito in which it's not useful against High Tier Opponents.
Exactly this, plot demanded we see NaruHina development. Sasuke never used genjutsu on Naruto because he knew it'd be useless, he experience genjutsu vs perfect jin bee firsthand and its ineffectiveness. When against a chakra deity like NaruJesus one most conserve/use chakra wisely, not waste it.