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I was rereading Sartre and one of his concepts in Bad Faith stuck out to me: we create social norms, moral and ethic codes, civil laws, and religion as a means to escape our responsibility to authentically exist. Our authenticity is hindered by our fear to take responsibility for our actions. I was relating that (ironically) to my own spiritual practices.
To understand it I wanted to break it down into our basic evolutionary design and then incorporate the inception of moral indoctrination into our basic primal self. Simply put our species exists by the three f's: feed, fight, and f***. These inherently create societal conflict due to competition of resources, which in turn created the basis of moral and ethic codes (and religion) to help regulate conflict. But does moral and ethic law inhibit authenticity? Social norms as well are fluid and ever changing, waxing and waning with public opinion.
So I thought does my religion hinder my true self? The Buddha taught that the true self, or awakened enlightened self, is within us all. It is free from craving, free from suffering, but our basic nature is to crave food, power, and procreate. Cessation of craving ends suffering, but is ending suffering just a way to escape our innate responsibilities? Are people even capable of taking responsibility for their actions without relying on religion, social norms, laws...etc? People are always stating that the world would be better without religion. If we removed it would things change for the better? That is highly suspect. "Better" I suppose could be subjective. In counter to Sartre, if our true self is to appeal to our basic fundamental needs and take responsibility for our actions, is that an enlightened person? They would by definition be authentic on a primal level as even our concept of Self is impermanent and fluid. To me they are both correct. Our primal self is our true self, whereas the enlightened self (in a Buddhist sense) is the evolved self.
Our society is like a blueprint, a mechanism, a structure that works together in order to keep life as we know it; balanced or at least that's the goal.
We, as people are taught these mechanics, the way things are done, how we should be have, what is expect of us etc.. you get the idea and religion plays a big role in the lives of "some" folks. I say some folks, because I myself am not religious, I began to question the idea of a deity around 12 years old when I began to comprehend some of the things written on it by carefully examining it and viewing the world and the facts thrown around and all over me. It took me some time to fully let go completely, basically fear is what kept me from going 100% Atheist and wanting to find a better system of belief. This may fall into that sense of "social norm" that we all so desperately want to fit into or wish to comply with.
I can tell you though, that someone people can probably live good and authentic lives without religion, but without laws and social norms?? I'd be hard to escape most of this unless you decided to raise a civilization in the north pole to study the changes and see what results from it. Some people are probably literally "morally just" because of religion, if you take that away, they might go batshit crazy or be really nasty individuals. Now this isn't a fact, just a thought based on another thought from this:
When religious people do "good things" they are often doing so in conditioned response to an ethereal reward/punishment set of beliefs. When non-believers do "good things" its because they want to do them.
^How much of that statement about religious people is true? how about those who are not believers. I personally never felt the need to have an deity to tell me what's right or wrong or to be rewarded with "heaven" for my good deeds.
Perhaps a religious person can say that?
Open mindness and the capability to make certain choices in life that don't harm anyone or the environment, to me at least; it'd be close to being enlightened. I doubt there's many people who can reach a "true" level of being 100% "enlightened"
My girlfriend and I were talking about some similar stuff and she mentioned a theory, where you have 4 levels of open mindedness, but sadly she can't remember the theory's name though I'm quoting her here:
First one had 80% of the world in it. Unaware, unable to think and question and unaware that they are unaware. Basically, tend to be a mindless sheep for the most part. Don't wish to be open minded, explore themselves and work towards self development.
The second one had where you are aware and you begin the first stages. You are emo because you are questioning your self identity, you are questioning things, not understanding why most people are so stupid, forming opinions, starting self development, working towards being open minded. You are beginning to see the world for what it is.
And the other two, she has forgotten but I'm guessing the last one has something to do with being "fully aware" and capable of understanding things. You can say, Siddhārtha Gautama reached the last level.
Then also, despite being an Atheist, I do believe religion to be a double edge sword. While it may help people spiritually through tough times and it may even fix a social issue, it can also cause some and history has showed that over and over, we still see it today.
That's the reason why spirituality and religion are completely separate from each other. Spirituality confronts your own psychological weaknesses directly. Religion soothes your delusions. Some exorcist show on tv showed this dumbass Christian from usa that claimed he was haunted by a demon that made him think perverted thoughts throughout his life. Dude can't even accept he's a pervert.
My dad (narrow-minded Christian) said the Buddha wallpaintings of mine are blasphemy and people worship it. Has anyone confirmed a Buddha statue being worshipped? (legit question)
No, ignorant people will call buddhism a religion(as they started to call atheism a religion too) and perhaps even those who claim to follow it will. This is due to the misconception that everything that's "followed" as a style of living that incorporates (life teachings/guidance) has to be labeled a religion.
Siddhārtha Gautama told his followers that he didn't wish to be worshiped, for he was no god and all he brought to them, were teachings to the path of enlightenment.
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