[Predictions] Naruto Manga 488 Discussion and 489 Predictions
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I'm all in for the spoilers but in the right thread. Not in the predictions thread.
I want to read the manga without being spoiled.
a thousand years of death
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a thread eh?
also on naruto saying he cant beat sasuke. i agree with what you said in a way. but i meant kishi needs to give us a reason as to why sasuke had such great chakra reserves.
also your link didnt really add much to the convo as it is kinda out of place.
having a boost in confidence and a boost in chakra/life are two different things.
itachi and kimimaru (im guessing kabuto gave him some) was on drugs to keep them alive and when jiraiya "died" all we really know is that he forced himself to wake up and keep his body going as his mind had not yet died.
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but sasukes chakra reserves suddenly growing and sasuke not only staying alive but going out fighting and walking of like it was nothing after running on empty for a while with no explanation is too much.
kakashi has done something like that a fair few times and he was always stuck in bed for weeks at a time.
only a jinchuuriki can increase their chakra reserves for obv reasons.
if sasukes chakra was like kisame's or the raikage's where they have the same reserves as a jinchuuriki then all is well. but sasuke doesnt have that or else it would have been said.
now im gonna find that thread you spoke of
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Hipster Madara
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U_U Yes very well agreed unlike other sasuke fanboys that just use other example as an excuse Kuoi actually makes GOOD points
Itachi Sama
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Well, sasuke is a decendant of the elder son of rikudo sennin,. So he inherited a powerful chakra...so sasuke does not need a large amount of chakra to perform powerful techs.. This is maybe the reason why sasuke seems to have lots of chakra..
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Exactly people keep on saying how Kimimaro Itachi and Jiraiya lived with sheer will power. Well Itachi and Kimimaro were taking medicines while Jiraiya did come back to life true but all he did was write a message not that he defeated Pain. As for Sasuke he keeps on getting stronger with hatred and thus using Susanoo??????? well if that was the case how was he out of chakra in his fight against Itachi which was not long when compared with his fight with Danzou and then team 7. Its just ridiculous.it has a fair bit.
people keep saying sasuke can do this because jiraiya can force himself back to life, or kimimaru can force his body to move through a fatal illness.
well id say jiraiya only forced himself to write a message then die. he didnt pull a sasuke and force himself back to life then fight and defeat pein.
kimimaru did force his body to move but when his time came he still died. he was inches from killing gaara and seemed to hold great hatred for him as he was down talking orochimaru yet as soon as his time came poof.
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as this shows sasuke fought itachi and the fight didnt last as long as his battle with the kages and or danzo yet he ran out of chakra and needed treatment in order to stay alive. we all know sasuke hated itachi so no one can use the hate card. not only that but sasuke used more chakra consuming jutsu constantly.You must be registered for see images
this fight wasnt too long ago yet sasuke not only seems to have far more chakra but at the end of it not only was he still awake.
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he was bloody walking normally.
no wonder naruto said he couldnt beat sasuke with that uber hack active.
even naruto wouldnt have enough chakra to compete with that and he has sage mode, alot of chakra and the kyubii.
i know sasuke needs to get more power but randomly giving him the chakra status of a god isnt the corect way. kishi will need to shed some light onto this.
rant over.....for nowMWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Guys u are forgetting one thing the descendant of the elder son of Rikudo was the Uchiha while the descendant of the younger son was the Senju. From what I can see its getting quite obvious that Naruto is a Senju thats why he has so much chakra just like Tsunade well his chakra is even more than her. Senjus are suppose to have huge amounts of chakra while Uchihas the descendant of the elder son possess the eyes and even then if they are suppose to have huge chakras its not only Sasuke but the entire Uchiha clan but from what I saw Itachi's chakra level wasn't too high he got tired easily after using Amatersu and Tsukyoumi but not like Kakashi who ended up in bed for 3 or 4 weeks. Also from the beginning Sasuke wasn't known for huge chakras but for his skills so how come all of a sudden his chakras increased so rapidly
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i dont think that it was that sasuke didn't have huge chakra reserves, just his were low in comparison to naruto's. sasuke's skills actually stood out more like naruto's chakra.Guys u are forgetting one thing the descendant of the elder son of Rikudo was the Uchiha while the descendant of the younger son was the Senju. From what I can see its getting quite obvious that Naruto is a Senju thats why he has so much chakra just like Tsunade well his chakra is even more than her. Senjus are suppose to have huge amounts of chakra while Uchihas the descendant of the elder son possess the eyes and even then if they are suppose to have huge chakras its not only Sasuke but the entire Uchiha clan but from what I saw Itachi's chakra level wasn't too high he got tired easily after using Amatersu and Tsukyoumi but not like Kakashi who ended up in bed for 3 or 4 weeks. Also from the beginning Sasuke wasn't known for huge chakras but for his skills so how come all of a sudden his chakras increased so rapidly
yea thats how it was when they were kids now almost all of his techniques are visual so thats how his chakra is going to be shown.... and stop comparing him to kakashi lols kakashi is not a uchiha so of course if he overuses ms he will be in bed for 2-3 weeks,, as for sasuke, itachi, or madara they can withstand it.
sasuke has huge chakra amounts cuz he is a uchiha point blank... before a uchiha enters battle you can almost feel there blood boiling .. well atleast thats what orochimaru said to sasuke.. he's also getting older so i dont expect his chakra to stay the same as when he was a kid or with orochimaru anyways .. same thing wit naruto the older they get the stronger and more chakra they have.
Im not saying sasuke got huge chakra reserve...im saying he inherited the spiritual energy and "powerful chakra" of the elder son of RS.. And since his chakra is already powerful he expends little chakra to perform high level techs... So i think it is not fair to think kishi made a mistake in making sasuke use a lot of high level techs during battle...
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i think if madara know kabuto powers madara want to kabuto stand side with him in 4th great ninja war maybe..... just think of it... kabuto is powerful now than orochimaru! why not wanted madara, kabuto on his side now? payment he give a MS to kabuto? or kill sasuke?
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mabe, but why should kabuto now be more powerful than orochimaru? this isn't said anywhere.
plus, killing sasuke to gain kabutos help?! doesn't make any sense to me
Sennin Jinchuuriki
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Kabuto won't join Akatuski as when he was with Oro they tried to kill Akatsuki members and some of Oro's cell is in Kabuto plus Sasuke is working with Madara so definitely not
no, remember when he fought naruto, he said that the curse seal expends so much chakra..and
when sasuke got oros powers, he was also in contsant suppression of oros powers using curse seal..
Besides, sasuke's biological make-up is meant for doujutsus...not for emulating a body with an affinity for snakes...plus why would itachi bother to strip sasuke of oros power if it will not hinder sasuke's improvement as an uchia?
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I was thinking when ol girl was comparing Naruto's dark charkra to the uchia's, Itachi's really. But then again she could be comparing Naruto's charkra to Killerbee's. Juat a thought.
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@Itachi Sama Well, not fluently yet but I am learning Japanese through dictionaries, anime, manga, etc. I do believe that their culture is completely different from ours. However, in my opinion, I think that approach of yours might be a little to straightforward. She might just slap you or something lol I think something like "anata ga utsukushii desu" (or you are beautiful) might help to spark up a conversation/her interest between the two of you. "I haven't the time for anything having to do with living a normal life, solely vengeance as it is what became of me after the massacre/your death".
@Degrees Arigatou gozaimasu for giving me the benefit of the doubt.
Even Zetsu commented on how Itachi was not acting like himself and could have dodge, etc. Kakashi is not of Uchiha blood and is no wonder why after Mangekyou usage; he ends up in the hospital or a possible logical reason as to why. Like I’ve stated above and the thread I have up; Sasuke’s ancestry which might be able to clarify some of your confusion as in my opinion, brings logic to the table (no offense intended).
@Sennin Jinchuuriki & a thousand years of death I engaged in some minor research and these are the results:
When two other forms of energy are mixed together; Chakra is produced. These two energies are referred to as "physical energy" and "spiritual energy". Physical energy is collected from the body's cells and can be increased through training, stimulants, and exercise. Spiritual energy is derived from the mind's consciousness (e.g. the soul) and can be increased through studying, meditation, and experience. Having these two energies become more powerful will in-turn make the created chakra even more powerful. Therefore, practicing a jutsu repeatedly will build-up experience, building up one's spiritual energy, and thus allowing more chakra to be created.
As a result, the ninja is able to do that same jutsu with more power. This same cycle applies for physical energy, except this time instead of doing things like meditation; the ninja could instead do any form of psychsical training, exercise, etc. The general term for the source of chakra, the overall physical and spiritual energy a person has is called "total stamina". The maximum amount of chakra an individual can create and retain at a given time is called their "chakra level". In other words, this can apply to any willing ninja (no pun intended). Sasuke most likely indeed possesses a jinchuuriki’s reserve. All I know is that Kishi wouldn’t be over-exaggerating in powering-up Sasuke and more so than Naruto the titular character if it wasn’t for a logical reason.
@Degrees Arigatou gozaimasu for giving me the benefit of the doubt.
Well, arigatou for somewhat agreeing with me. I do believe that Kishi is doing this for a reason still unbeknownst to us readers and hopefully Kishi sometime in the near future, reveals the reasons why.
It is your opinion to agree/disagree with the logic/theories I provided. Okay, this was Tsunade’s doing, Orochimaru realized it and she confirmed it. Although, how does this compare to that of Jiraiya? It was never confirmed in that situation how he was able to come back to life except for Fukasaku’s assumption which was resulting from direct willpower. You’re doing the same by assuming that Tsunade’s chakra disruption method is what he used. Although, neither are confirmed and the willpower seemed more likely in my opinion, based on the elder toad frog’s experience/old age.
Like Juuken said, Susanoo is still a mysterious jutsu and could have more to it than what has been released. A logical explanation could still be out there. Kakashi is not an Uchiha and so it is logical as to why he ends up in a hospital/tires quickly.
Where is there evidence in the manga where Itachi took medication? Aside from rumors which is not evident but rather more like speculation in the manga. Kimimaro had been under medication, etc. via Kabuto but when he decided to put his life on the line to retrieve Sasuke for Orochimaru, he disconnected himself from tubes, IV, etc. From then on, it was his willpower that medicated him as it even came out of his mouth in little words. As for Jiraiya, the fact that he came back to life via his willpower is what is relevant. Anything else that occurred afterward is irrelevant as we’re pinpointing their willpower/feats alone. There are many factors that play into Sasuke when it comes to how much farther he can excel himself. Things such as hatred/willpower/ancestry/Mangekyou are likely relevant or possible "logic".
Well, Naruto being of Senju descent can still be debated as it hasn’t been confirmed. However, I can see your outlook. Remember when Itachi versed Sasuke? He had been ill and was holding himself back (as to how much is still undetermined) but those facts remain. Obviously, these two factors played into how he was weaker than usual/seemingly low chakra.Guys u are forgetting one thing the descendant of the elder son of Rikudo was the Uchiha while the descendant of the younger son was the Senju. From what I can see its getting quite obvious that Naruto is a Senju thats why he has so much chakra just like Tsunade well his chakra is even more than her. Senjus are suppose to have huge amounts of chakra while Uchihas the descendant of the elder son possess the eyes and even then if they are suppose to have huge chakras its not only Sasuke but the entire Uchiha clan but from what I saw Itachi's chakra level wasn't too high he got tired easily after using Amatersu and Tsukyoumi but not like Kakashi who ended up in bed for 3 or 4 weeks. Also from the beginning Sasuke wasn't known for huge chakras but for his skills so how come all of a sudden his chakras increased so rapidly
Even Zetsu commented on how Itachi was not acting like himself and could have dodge, etc. Kakashi is not of Uchiha blood and is no wonder why after Mangekyou usage; he ends up in the hospital or a possible logical reason as to why. Like I’ve stated above and the thread I have up; Sasuke’s ancestry which might be able to clarify some of your confusion as in my opinion, brings logic to the table (no offense intended).
@Sennin Jinchuuriki & a thousand years of death I engaged in some minor research and these are the results:
When two other forms of energy are mixed together; Chakra is produced. These two energies are referred to as "physical energy" and "spiritual energy". Physical energy is collected from the body's cells and can be increased through training, stimulants, and exercise. Spiritual energy is derived from the mind's consciousness (e.g. the soul) and can be increased through studying, meditation, and experience. Having these two energies become more powerful will in-turn make the created chakra even more powerful. Therefore, practicing a jutsu repeatedly will build-up experience, building up one's spiritual energy, and thus allowing more chakra to be created.
As a result, the ninja is able to do that same jutsu with more power. This same cycle applies for physical energy, except this time instead of doing things like meditation; the ninja could instead do any form of psychsical training, exercise, etc. The general term for the source of chakra, the overall physical and spiritual energy a person has is called "total stamina". The maximum amount of chakra an individual can create and retain at a given time is called their "chakra level". In other words, this can apply to any willing ninja (no pun intended). Sasuke most likely indeed possesses a jinchuuriki’s reserve. All I know is that Kishi wouldn’t be over-exaggerating in powering-up Sasuke and more so than Naruto the titular character if it wasn’t for a logical reason.
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