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That's fine.
You're not understanding though. For one, we weren't talking about Kisame at all so that doesn't apply here. The comparison here was the scaling of the Juubi's humungous palm compared to the typical size of a V2 Susano'o. The palm is much, much larger, and for a single Air Palm to knock it back; means the concussive force behind it is insane. You can't compare it to other Air Palms and of course we don't have feats of it against something like Domu; because they never fought.
I am competent in it, and this doesn't apply at all. The larger you are, the more mass you have. That gives you the potential to have more force than something with less mass, provided the speed at which the object is moving is faster than the one with less mass. That's not even an argument here though, so I don't know why your brought it up. Pushing back the Juubi's huge palm > Crushing the much smaller Domu.
The best example I can give you for a comparison as to what the Air Palm would do to Kakuzu is simple. Go back and re-read the Danzo vs MS Sasuke fight. When Danzo's Fuuton was damaging Sasuke's Susano'o it was practically blowing holes in it, and that was a V2 Susano'o. Hiashi's Air Palm has far more concussive force than that Fuuton and there's no way you can believe Domu is better defensively than V2 Susano'o and above. So with that being established, Domu is not tanking Hiashi's Air Palm.
Rotating 360 degrees emanating chakra that blocks attacks. How do you not know this? All angles? Max is 360 degrees and Rotation covers it. Kakuzu has a horrible match-up against Hiashi here mainly because of rotation. Fuuton is launched, rotation negates and Hiashi goes on the offensive.
Byakugan's insight allows him to locate the hearts and the masks are shot down by Air Palms.
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If Kakuzu attempted to use them as an obstacle to stop Hiashi, he can just grab [or purposely get caught by] them and insert chakra through them and into Kakuzu's body, literally one-shotting him.
Rotation? Chakra cloaks? Twin Lion Fists [assuming he has it] ? All three are very good ways to counter.
lmao XD I was about to dislike this until I saw who it was
He's the only human to have been hit with the attack though? Besides a few zetsu. And he was fine.
A link to this event would be nice. What do you even think is going to happen to Kakuzu? With or Without domu? At worst he'd be sent flying back. While his threads cushion any "internal" impact that should of been placed on him. Which we can't even judge as it was a hand...with nothing to really damage. Nor did it show any signs of bruising etc. etc. which means that again... all it did was send it flying (im holding back comparisons to ST but it seems similar)
Comparing pushing and crushing now I see? It wouldn't crush anything. Nor would it break through. Bold is all it did to the palm with showing nothing that indicates it can do or would do anything else. Again so how can you explain the ST incident? Sent Naruto merely a few meters but toads were sent a whole village away? Pain can't alter his ST Except CST which obviously wasn't used. Both have to do with blowback force which is why im mentioning it. Either way it "crushing" Solid Carbon when its never been shown to even cause damage at all is baseless. All it will do is throw Kakuzu back which Kakuzu tanks.
What?
One- That was only possible due to the crushing vacuum Baku was creating turning those fuutons into mini bombs.
Two- Those bullets were designed projectiles, where Air Palm is merely a jutsu used to deflect and knock back things.
So yeah a Susano'o would tank it with ease.
Lol yes it is.
How can it block extreme air pressure? Neji wouldn't even be able to spin as the pressure would immediately bear down on him
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Even if it does that much pressure being applied on a single layer of chakra is questionable to say the least. Air palms range isn't all that nice and while he's air palming one another could KO him. You can't air palm and rotate at the same time.
Kakuzu can send his own chakra through them....
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Seeing as how Air Palm causes internal damage, who exactly are you to say it didn't do any damage? Moreover, if I'm not mistaken, from what I remember, they were trying to capture him alive in order to get intel. But I'm to lazy to check.
Read chapter 614.
So you're unaware that Air Palm can cause damage to the organs ? Wow Lol
Of course there'll be no bruises, this thing tanked it's own TBB from inside. An Air palm would never leave a mark on the Juubi. Although Hinata, was able to leave scars on a Juubi clone's chest with her 64 palms.
Again, for the third time, you're claiming Air palm can't do anything beside push back objects? Shows how much you know.
Kakzuzu can't tank any Gentle Fist attacks, no one can. Are you not aware of that ? [probably yes lol]
Fourth time you're claiming Air Palm can't do anything other than deflect objects !! lmao
Hinata's Gentle Fist was able to bypass Narutos BM cloak, Domu is shit in comparison. Lol
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It's around 6 meters, so that's fine for what it needs to do.
Lol He can air palm with both hands to to different monsters
Its aimed at the organs as places to knock them back it doesn't do serious damage like normal gentle fist attacks
Idk where you live but the links work for me, and I'd rather continue this with Trans if he ever decides to get back here
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Wrong. The 3rd databook says it has the same aspects as Gentle Fist, so yes, it can damage organs.
Hiashi defeats Sasori mid difficulty
Diedara wins mid-high difficulty
Hiashi defeats Hidan mid difficulty
Kakuzu edges this. It would be a hard battle
Hiashi defeats Konan high difficulty
Could go either way against Itachi, but his abilities counter Itachi's pretty well
Kisame wins mid difficulty
Could go either way against a MS/Rinnegan less Tobi/Obito, but i tend to favor the latter more times than not
Diedara wins mid-high difficulty
Hiashi defeats Hidan mid difficulty
Kakuzu edges this. It would be a hard battle
Hiashi defeats Konan high difficulty
Could go either way against Itachi, but his abilities counter Itachi's pretty well
Kisame wins mid difficulty
Could go either way against a MS/Rinnegan less Tobi/Obito, but i tend to favor the latter more times than not
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I'll make this short and simple and dumb it down for the clueless users who can only defend main stream characters (most of the current site ofc).
Konan:
Konan uses Chakra to make her body Paper style. No mater the material
Beats Konan.
Hidan:
All though Hidan is immune to "death", that doesn't mean he does not
Beats Hidan
Kakuzu:
Kakuzu loses just as easy as Hidan TBH. His fighting style relies too much on secrets and chakra. Byakugan see's all his secrets before he even knows Hiashi knows. Byakugan see's the flow of chakra in each heart. And with the Byakugan will know every single move Kakuzu attemtps before he even produce an attack. Thanks to the insight of the chakra network, any thing chakra based is seen before it is release since chakra has to first be mustered up.
-Diamond skin is uses if he isn't fast enough to react and use the jutsu in time. But ofc it already doesn't matter since Juuken attacks the insides and one hit can destroy any of his hearts to the touch.
- Elemental attacks are useless since Juuken>Chakra based Substance. Vacuum palm plows through any attempt and easily one shots any heart monster and/or Kakuzu.
-Taijutsu obv equals death for Kakuzu.
Kakuzu loses.
Itachi:
Itachi is outclassed in Taijutsu but doesn't know it. But ofc once he figures it out would retreat. His Ninjutsu is usesless because of Juuken, any and every Fire jutsu is plowed through with Vacuum palm. And ofc Genjutsu is restricted so no need to mention how he easily counters that.
-Amateratsu; Is the reason Itachi would lose tbh. Ama' requires a charge time.... lol... Byakugan see's anything Chakra related and see's the area you are using chakra at. Ama is countered before it is even released. With Juuken layer, then Full body burst it is easily Dispelled and removed. And with teh major Drawback MS causes he will be left wide open for a counter attack.
-Susanoo; The only real threat tbh. But what would SUsanoo be able to do? Protect him forever? Non-legged susanoo makes the user slower and stationanry for the most part. Itachi's susanoo attacks are way to slow to hit him, plus with teh byakugan Hiashi would know Itachi's chakra levels at all times. Plus know that something is wrong with Itachi's health. Only a matter of time till Susanoo runs out and itachi collapses.
Itachi beats himself.
Deidara:
Tricky one since he is an aerial opponent. Hiashi would see his style of fighting and know the clay is his secret to victory. As seen with neji he will know when any of teh clay will explode before it explodes. And if he uses Juuken Vacuum palm to hit them before they explode then he makes them Duds. If Deidara realize to just use C3 and get it over with in the air then he wins with Village buster. But If hiashi beats him before he learns even C4 is usesless (wince Hiashi would know they are micro bombs and to not touch or breathe them in, plus see Deidara is just outside the distance like sasuke did).
C0 tie.
Sasori:
Anyother tricky one because of Hiruko. If 3rd Kazekage isn't used off bat or asap he loses no diff. But because of The 3rd he could gain distance and attack non stop with Iron sand, then eventually cover most if not all teh battle field and attack from below and keep him from spinning then its a wrap.
loses if 3rd isn't out off bat. Could win if he gets the 3rd out fast enough before dying.
Tobi:
Obito? Tobi? Young Obito? too many to choose from, don't even wanna touch that subject.
Kisame:
If he absorbs before Hiashi gets close and stop his heart (since you cannot heal something that is not in need of repair), Hiashi could like Evani stated attack his organs. But that's if his chakra makes it far enough to penetrate. Fusion rapes hiashi like no other though.
Kisame wins.
Simple brief summary. I don't expect most to get since I didn't post pictures to show.
Konan:
Konan uses Chakra to make her body Paper style. No mater the material
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if you hit her ofc. SO as long As Hiashi has Gentle fist,
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is all he needs to defend then cancel any chakra based attack/weapon/substance
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. And before she would form or reform, no matter where she is at The Byakugan will at all times know her location and where to attack. And with he use of chakra detonating the Explosing tags he will know when to defend or retreat. Beats Konan.
Hidan:
All though Hidan is immune to "death", that doesn't mean he does not
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. He still has chakra and still has to move and function just like every other human. With Juuken; One could not only close his chakra network with 64 palms and prevent him from moving, Juuken also allows him to dislocate some of the internal things in his body like
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plus the fact He could simply
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when he gets a good look. Beats Hidan
Kakuzu:
Kakuzu loses just as easy as Hidan TBH. His fighting style relies too much on secrets and chakra. Byakugan see's all his secrets before he even knows Hiashi knows. Byakugan see's the flow of chakra in each heart. And with the Byakugan will know every single move Kakuzu attemtps before he even produce an attack. Thanks to the insight of the chakra network, any thing chakra based is seen before it is release since chakra has to first be mustered up.
-Diamond skin is uses if he isn't fast enough to react and use the jutsu in time. But ofc it already doesn't matter since Juuken attacks the insides and one hit can destroy any of his hearts to the touch.
- Elemental attacks are useless since Juuken>Chakra based Substance. Vacuum palm plows through any attempt and easily one shots any heart monster and/or Kakuzu.
-Taijutsu obv equals death for Kakuzu.
Kakuzu loses.
Itachi:
Itachi is outclassed in Taijutsu but doesn't know it. But ofc once he figures it out would retreat. His Ninjutsu is usesless because of Juuken, any and every Fire jutsu is plowed through with Vacuum palm. And ofc Genjutsu is restricted so no need to mention how he easily counters that.
-Amateratsu; Is the reason Itachi would lose tbh. Ama' requires a charge time.... lol... Byakugan see's anything Chakra related and see's the area you are using chakra at. Ama is countered before it is even released. With Juuken layer, then Full body burst it is easily Dispelled and removed. And with teh major Drawback MS causes he will be left wide open for a counter attack.
-Susanoo; The only real threat tbh. But what would SUsanoo be able to do? Protect him forever? Non-legged susanoo makes the user slower and stationanry for the most part. Itachi's susanoo attacks are way to slow to hit him, plus with teh byakugan Hiashi would know Itachi's chakra levels at all times. Plus know that something is wrong with Itachi's health. Only a matter of time till Susanoo runs out and itachi collapses.
Itachi beats himself.
Deidara:
Tricky one since he is an aerial opponent. Hiashi would see his style of fighting and know the clay is his secret to victory. As seen with neji he will know when any of teh clay will explode before it explodes. And if he uses Juuken Vacuum palm to hit them before they explode then he makes them Duds. If Deidara realize to just use C3 and get it over with in the air then he wins with Village buster. But If hiashi beats him before he learns even C4 is usesless (wince Hiashi would know they are micro bombs and to not touch or breathe them in, plus see Deidara is just outside the distance like sasuke did).
C0 tie.
Sasori:
Anyother tricky one because of Hiruko. If 3rd Kazekage isn't used off bat or asap he loses no diff. But because of The 3rd he could gain distance and attack non stop with Iron sand, then eventually cover most if not all teh battle field and attack from below and keep him from spinning then its a wrap.
loses if 3rd isn't out off bat. Could win if he gets the 3rd out fast enough before dying.
Tobi:
Obito? Tobi? Young Obito? too many to choose from, don't even wanna touch that subject.
Kisame:
If he absorbs before Hiashi gets close and stop his heart (since you cannot heal something that is not in need of repair), Hiashi could like Evani stated attack his organs. But that's if his chakra makes it far enough to penetrate. Fusion rapes hiashi like no other though.
Kisame wins.
Simple brief summary. I don't expect most to get since I didn't post pictures to show.
I mean this doesn't really matter as Kakuzu's threads cushion any impacts first tanked by Domu. So his heart will remain fine but, pretty sure he merely targets the vitals as area's that allow the greatest throw back. Kisame showed no damage at all.
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Okay this jutsu is merely compressed force released to the "vital" spots. The shockwave still has to travel to inside the body, interrupt that force with basically a wall of the hardest material on the planet ( or up there I believe) i'm being generous in saying it doesn't fully just tank that shit right then and there. Combine that with the cushion the threads provide within the body itself adding an extra shield and this jutsu's useless here. Its not Gentle Fist no chakra is being spiked at all
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Wrong, it's not just compressed force, it's chakra, ei, a ranged Genlte Fists strike, and the manga already made it clear that it cannot be tanked.
No where in that data book page does it even mention chakra at all....
Really? Last I checked Kisame was fine when he was hit with it Lol. He was only flung like a meter or two and stayed on his feet? I mean Kakuzu may be blown back a bit but he'd most certainly still be standing with no internal damage
