But he wasn't stronger than Bluenote, and all I'm saying is that this way he's much stronger than Gildarts and that doesn't really make sense
It doesn't matter if he was going all out. The thing is that if he's stronger than Blue Note pre TS then it would make sense for him to be able to one shot him after TS.
He's E.N.D. Get it through your thick skull.But he wasn't stronger than Bluenote, and all I'm saying is that this way he's much stronger than Gildarts and that doesn't really make sense
Ok *2nd strongest, but still ain't "just a punch" like he was saying
But he wasn't stronger than Bluenote, and all I'm saying is that this way he's much stronger than Gildarts and that doesn't really make sense
I think both Gildarts and Bluenote were just incorporating their magic with blunt attacks cuz while Bluenote's punches made the earth go down Gildarts' punches transformed the earth into blocks
Yup it wasn't a normal punch but I don't think that magic was that great. Natsu's attack involves more magic than what Gildarts used against him.For the most of the fight Gildarts tried to fight him without magic and one shotted him when he finally decided to use magic where as Natsu started with magic. I don't think Natsu can physically compete with Bluenote like Gildarts did.
But Natsu wasn't holding his own against Mard Geer, he needed Ice Devil slayer Gray to help him (which was pretty damn strong)
Yup it wasn't a normal punch but I don't think that magic was that great. Natsu's attack involves more magic than what Gildarts used against him.For the most of the fight Gildarts tried to fight him without magic and one shotted him when he finally decided to use magic where as Natsu started with magic. I don't think Natsu can physically compete with Bluenote like Gildarts did.
No Natsu was stronger. Mardgeer >>> Bluenote and Natsu held his own ass against him hence he's stronger than blue note. No need to mention Natsu is holding his own against Gildarts before TS though they didn't go all out. Natsu might be stronger than Pre TS Gildarts but he's nowhere near current Gildarts.
It made me angry :NO:....Why did Hiro do that ?.Many are hating on Gray in tumblr for this....-_-last page is all that interested me lol
wtf? hating from one page where he isn't even there? looolIt made me angry :NO:....Why did Hiro do that ?.Many are hating on Gray in tumblr for this....-_-
Yep.It all started three days back when spoilers are out.May be something happened to Juvia or Mashima is about to troll us revealing that Juvia is gathering information on E N D by acting like that ?.wtf? hating from one page where he isn't even there? loool
Well maybe he left to train and thought Juvia would just weigh him down or it would be too dangerous for her. Gotta wait another week
Anyway, I didn't expect much from this chapter's fight so it didn't bother me. Power levels in FT are rarely consistent![]()
I think both Gildarts and Bluenote were just incorporating their magic with blunt attacks cuz while Bluenote's punches made the earth go down Gildarts' punches transformed the earth into blocks
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But Natsu wasn't holding his own against Mard Geer, he needed Ice Devil slayer Gray to help him (which was pretty damn strong)
Either way Natsu has to be stronger than Gildarts now
I told u, unless u cant prove facts on what u spouted than that is just plain wrong, oh and I will rant any day when something is shitty since no one is immune to criticism, though that is probably the first time I've been ranting about OP, and no this wasnt nor asspull nor anything else it was mere crap writing.then read the damn arc again if you're to blind to get it. not my problem if you're too stupid to look into things and call everything bs. the same crap i heard from you in every latest one piece chapter. so i'm not even suprised. waiting for the chapter when luffy kicks doflamingos ass with not going all out and you crying "asspull"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An old Rayleigh isnt either at the top of OP verse, he is plain old and out of shape, though I agree that rayleigh may be above gildarts in their respective verses but still that doesnt cover todays chapter as I said before I never even used rayleigh as a reference here since I said I dont even think dofla would give low diff to someone like rayleigh but is still dominating in a fight against law or luffy while here we have directly a gildarts who had something like low-mid diff against blue note while as natsu one shots blue note with an casual breath, that is plain wrong no matter how u look at it, if power levels would change every year like this in a verse then bruhh, but then again its mashima so...I did get it but we shouldn't say Gildarts back then is similar to Rayleigh.It's because the power levels in Op are different from that of FT. Rayleigh for example was a 100 times stronger than Luffy pre TS where as the difference b/w GA and Natsu was not as big as that of Luffy and Rayleigh by the time of his battle with blue note. Rayleigh can solo all super novas where as Gildarts can't solo FT all by himself. Rayleigh stood at the top of OP verse where as Pre TS Gildarts is nowhere near likes of Zeref,Acnologia,END and Igneel who stood at the top of FT verse. Surpassing Pre TS Gildarts after 2 time skips isn't much of a deal.
Besides, I don't even remember Gildarts using high level magic against blue note. He beat him purely with his physical strength/ low level magic.
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Bluenote never trained
but this is the 2nd time skip.. Natsu defeated both Sting and Rogue at their fullest after first time skip, without using lightning flame mode, etc. At that point, Natsu couldve defeated blue note. Now he had a whole year of full training! I totally get the power scaling. This was to honestly show how natsu overpowered gildarts at that time, defeating an opponent gildarts didnt even solo that bad. From what it seemed, blue note isnt the type to train. He seemss cocky
An old Rayleigh isnt either at the top of OP verse, he is plain old and out of shape, though I agree that rayleigh may be above gildarts in their respective verses but still that doesnt cover todays chapter as I said before I never even used rayleigh as a reference here since I said I dont even think dofla would give low diff to someone like rayleigh but is still dominating in a fight against law or luffy while here we have directly a gildarts who had something like low-mid diff against blue note while as natsu one shots blue note with an casual breath, that is plain wrong no matter how u look at it, if power levels would change every year like this in a verse then bruhh, but then again its mashima so...
i already mentioned why ds have the biggest room of improvement in the manga ryt nowBut that's the point, he shouldn't be schooling top mages in base in the beggining of the time skip, this way he's much stronger than Gildarts, unless we're in the final arc this is not good writting
While holding a girl in his hands and making jokes
This is Natsu serious
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Ok *2nd strongest, but still ain't "just a punch" like he was saying
This is pretty much the entire reason just like in Rorrouni Kenshin when hiko didnt go. Because he is hax.It's because plot. The same reason why Hiro left him out of the story most of the time or else he would have wrecked the enemies Natsu and the others had to face.