[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 423 Discussion and 424 Predictions

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He hasn't used his lightning-flame mode nor Dragon Force.
Right now he's above Gildart's league.

Just accept it fapboys. <3
 

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It doesn't matter if he was going all out. The thing is that if he's stronger than Blue Note pre TS then it would make sense for him to be able to one shot him after TS.
But he wasn't stronger than Bluenote, and all I'm saying is that this way he's much stronger than Gildarts and that doesn't really make sense
 

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Ok *2nd strongest, but still ain't "just a punch" like he was saying

Yup it wasn't a normal punch but I don't think that magic was that great. Natsu's attack involves more magic than what Gildarts used against him.For the most of the fight Gildarts tried to fight him without magic and one shotted him when he finally decided to use magic where as Natsu started with magic. I don't think Natsu can physically compete with Bluenote like Gildarts did.


But he wasn't stronger than Bluenote, and all I'm saying is that this way he's much stronger than Gildarts and that doesn't really make sense

No Natsu was stronger. Mardgeer >>> Bluenote and Natsu held his own ass against him hence he's stronger than blue note. No need to mention Natsu is holding his own against Gildarts before TS though they didn't go all out. Natsu might be stronger than Pre TS Gildarts but he's nowhere near current Gildarts.
 
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Yup it wasn't a normal punch but I don't think that magic was that great. Natsu's attack involves more magic than what Gildarts used against him.For the most of the fight Gildarts tried to fight him without magic and one shotted him when he finally decided to use magic where as Natsu started with magic. I don't think Natsu can physically compete with Bluenote like Gildarts did.
I think both Gildarts and Bluenote were just incorporating their magic with blunt attacks cuz while Bluenote's punches made the earth go down Gildarts' punches transformed the earth into blocks
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Yup it wasn't a normal punch but I don't think that magic was that great. Natsu's attack involves more magic than what Gildarts used against him.For the most of the fight Gildarts tried to fight him without magic and one shotted him when he finally decided to use magic where as Natsu started with magic. I don't think Natsu can physically compete with Bluenote like Gildarts did.




No Natsu was stronger. Mardgeer >>> Bluenote and Natsu held his own ass against him hence he's stronger than blue note. No need to mention Natsu is holding his own against Gildarts before TS though they didn't go all out. Natsu might be stronger than Pre TS Gildarts but he's nowhere near current Gildarts.
But Natsu wasn't holding his own against Mard Geer, he needed Ice Devil slayer Gray to help him (which was pretty damn strong)

Either way Natsu has to be stronger than Gildarts now
 
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Okay hmm...guys ?.Here I am off for a while and I saw a lot happened here Xd.I thought there would be discussions about what happened to Juvia and is Hiro Killed Gruvia but instead you all are discussing about a overrated Bluenote character.How in the hell did people think that Bluenote will pose a good fight against Natsu when Last chapter clearly implied that is not the case and events after timeskip already showed how the FT members are strong.

Deal with it Pre-One Year timeskip LFD Natsu>>>>Bluenote.Roro going badass here :cool:
 

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It made me angry :NO:....Why did Hiro do that ?.Many are hating on Gray in tumblr for this....-_-
wtf? hating from one page where he isn't even there? loool

Well maybe he left to train and thought Juvia would just weigh him down or it would be too dangerous for her. Gotta wait another week :eek:


Anyway, I didn't expect much from this chapter's fight so it didn't bother me. Power levels in FT are rarely consistent :p
 

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wtf? hating from one page where he isn't even there? loool

Well maybe he left to train and thought Juvia would just weigh him down or it would be too dangerous for her. Gotta wait another week :eek:


Anyway, I didn't expect much from this chapter's fight so it didn't bother me. Power levels in FT are rarely consistent :p
Yep.It all started three days back when spoilers are out.May be something happened to Juvia or Mashima is about to troll us revealing that Juvia is gathering information on E N D by acting like that ?.
 

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I think both Gildarts and Bluenote were just incorporating their magic with blunt attacks cuz while Bluenote's punches made the earth go down Gildarts' punches transformed the earth into blocks
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Nah Shanks didn't use haki back then. Lol Bluenote made the ground beneath Gildarts upside down and he used his magic on ground and those blocks are the result of that.



But Natsu wasn't holding his own against Mard Geer, he needed Ice Devil slayer Gray to help him (which was pretty damn strong)

Either way Natsu has to be stronger than Gildarts now

Natsu overpowered him with DF. Natsu isn't stronger than current Gildarts.
 

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Bluenote never trained

but this is the 2nd time skip.. Natsu defeated both Sting and Rogue at their fullest after first time skip, without using lightning flame mode, etc. At that point, Natsu couldve defeated blue note. Now he had a whole year of full training! I totally get the power scaling. This was to honestly show how natsu overpowered gildarts at that time, defeating an opponent gildarts didnt even solo that bad. From what it seemed, blue note isnt the type to train. He seemss cocky
 

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then read the damn arc again if you're to blind to get it. not my problem if you're too stupid to look into things and call everything bs. the same crap i heard from you in every latest one piece chapter. so i'm not even suprised. waiting for the chapter when luffy kicks doflamingos ass with not going all out and you crying "asspull"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I told u, unless u cant prove facts on what u spouted than that is just plain wrong, oh and I will rant any day when something is shitty since no one is immune to criticism, though that is probably the first time I've been ranting about OP, and no this wasnt nor asspull nor anything else it was mere crap writing.

I did get it but we shouldn't say Gildarts back then is similar to Rayleigh.It's because the power levels in Op are different from that of FT. Rayleigh for example was a 100 times stronger than Luffy pre TS where as the difference b/w GA and Natsu was not as big as that of Luffy and Rayleigh by the time of his battle with blue note. Rayleigh can solo all super novas where as Gildarts can't solo FT all by himself. Rayleigh stood at the top of OP verse where as Pre TS Gildarts is nowhere near likes of Zeref,Acnologia,END and Igneel who stood at the top of FT verse. Surpassing Pre TS Gildarts after 2 time skips isn't much of a deal.

Besides, I don't even remember Gildarts using high level magic against blue note. He beat him purely with his physical strength/ low level magic.
An old Rayleigh isnt either at the top of OP verse, he is plain old and out of shape, though I agree that rayleigh may be above gildarts in their respective verses but still that doesnt cover todays chapter as I said before I never even used rayleigh as a reference here since I said I dont even think dofla would give low diff to someone like rayleigh but is still dominating in a fight against law or luffy while here we have directly a gildarts who had something like low-mid diff against blue note while as natsu one shots blue note with an casual breath, that is plain wrong no matter how u look at it, if power levels would change every year like this in a verse then bruhh, but then again its mashima so...
 
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Bluenote never trained

but this is the 2nd time skip.. Natsu defeated both Sting and Rogue at their fullest after first time skip, without using lightning flame mode, etc. At that point, Natsu couldve defeated blue note. Now he had a whole year of full training! I totally get the power scaling. This was to honestly show how natsu overpowered gildarts at that time, defeating an opponent gildarts didnt even solo that bad. From what it seemed, blue note isnt the type to train. He seemss cocky

It doesn't make sense if we think that he didn't train his ass. His growth rate isn't that good when compared to likes of Natsu.



An old Rayleigh isnt either at the top of OP verse, he is plain old and out of shape, though I agree that rayleigh may be above gildarts in their respective verses but still that doesnt cover todays chapter as I said before I never even used rayleigh as a reference here since I said I dont even think dofla would give low diff to someone like rayleigh but is still dominating in a fight against law or luffy while here we have directly a gildarts who had something like low-mid diff against blue note while as natsu one shots blue note with an casual breath, that is plain wrong no matter how u look at it, if power levels would change every year like this in a verse then bruhh, but then again its mashima so...

I don't think this would be the case for every year. After all Natsu dedicated this whole year just to get stronger and his desire to get stronger was very strong during this TS as he witnessed Igneel's death and has to full fill his promise to his father. Natsu in DF mode was fighting on par with Mardgeer who was far stronger than Blue note. Natsu pre TS was stronger than blue note so I don't think Natsu being far stronger than his previous self would be a bad part on writers behalf. During first TS their power ups were pure BS but it wasn't the case for second TS IMO.
 
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But that's the point, he shouldn't be schooling top mages in base in the beggining of the time skip, this way he's much stronger than Gildarts, unless we're in the final arc this is not good writting


While holding a girl in his hands and making jokes

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Ok *2nd strongest, but still ain't "just a punch" like he was saying
i already mentioned why ds have the biggest room of improvement in the manga ryt now
and their are still 4 gods of ishval, 4th rank guy can create a 2000 km long tree with a great speed, thats hashirama with steroids
and then we have dragons and zeref's other demons, hiro can always make stronger villains, remember csk?, he is a stronger entity too
its just that power levels will increase , but characters like mard,hades and gildarts will still be relevant
 

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It's because plot. The same reason why Hiro left him out of the story most of the time or else he would have wrecked the enemies Natsu and the others had to face.
This is pretty much the entire reason just like in Rorrouni Kenshin when hiko didnt go. Because he is hax.
 

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You dudes argue about every little thing. The hell with this shit.

Anywho, natsu keeps getting better and better.
 
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