[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 423 Discussion and 424 Predictions

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how was he giving gildarts a difficulty fight? gildarts beat him with one punch in his face and before that he didn't even use half of his strength into his attacks. natsu already had surpassed pre ts blue note after the tj arc, so your point is not even making sense.

but to put it simply for people who still don't get it. natsu tartarus arc > blue note tj arc.
To put it simply stop pulling things out of ur anus, he was giving gildarts a difficulty fight, do u even know what difficulty means really? It doesnt always have to be hard or extreme diff fight but it can be even easy or medium but still is a difficulty fight and there gildarts was having a difficulty fight while natsu would 1 shot someone like bluenote without even trying, not to mention that the guy had 8 more years to improve and still got lol rekt... again unless u can prove that natsu tartarus arc > blue note dont just state it as a fact to prove ur biased words.
 
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When did I say Gildarts was weaker than Bluenote? I just said he wasn't stronger like Natsu is now

"Playing with him" Bruh... he was ****ing pissed
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He destroyed Bluenote's most powerfull attack and then he won, he didn't rek
destroyed his strongest attacks with not even midd diff and wrecked him with 1 punch. yeah blue note was such a hard opponent for gildarts. lol

the tartarus arc natsu would have wrecked blue note mid diff. same goes for erza and gray and yet you still keep telling a trained natsu after timeskip beating him is bs. /faceplam
 

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To put it simply stop pulling things out of ur anus, he was giving gildarts a difficulty fight, do u even know what difficulty means really? It doesnt always have to be hard or extreme diff fight but it can be even easy or medium but still is a difficulty fight and there gildarts was having a difficulty fight while natsu would 1 shot someone like bluenote without even trying, not to mention that the guy had 8 more years to improve and still got lol rekt... again unless u can prove that natsu tartarus arc > blue note dont just state it as a fact to prove ur biased words.
then read the damn arc again if you're to blind to get it. not my problem if you're too stupid to look into things and call everything bs. the same crap i heard from you in every latest one piece chapter. so i'm not even suprised. waiting for the chapter when luffy kicks doflamingos ass with not going all out and you crying "asspull"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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destroyed his strongest attacks with not even midd diff and wrecked him with 1 punch. yeah blue note was such a hard opponent for gildarts. lol

the tartarus arc natsu would have wrecked blue note mid diff. same goes for erza and gray and yet you still keep telling a trained natsu after timeskip beating him is bs. /faceplam
Bruh before that they were fighting almost equally, lol there had to be a last attack, and that was a magic enhanced punch since he gave it a name and it created a whole in the clouds
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Tartarus Natsu got one-shot by Silver...
 

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Bruh before that they were fighting almost equally, lol there had to be a last attack, and that was a magic enhanced punch since he gave it a name and it created a whole in the clouds
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Tartarus Natsu got one-shot by Silver...
since when is naming an attack new in a manga? not to mention that you and the other dude in here think natsu's attack was weak when it for sure wasn't.


silver> blue note. so what's your point? not to mention that natsu just got out of the moment by hiro because silver had to face gray.
 

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since when is naming an attack new in a manga? not to mention that you and the other dude in here think natsu's attack was weak when it for sure wasn't.


silver> blue note. so what's your point? not to mention that natsu just got out of the moment by hiro because silver had to face gray.
I was just saying that wasn't a regular punch (kinda like Sanji has stronger kicks, not just regular ones)

The difference between Gildarts vs Bluenote and Natsu vs Bluenote is before Gildarts could use that attack he had to go through a hard fight, Natsu was chilling with a girl in his arms and just made that gigantic ass attack like it was the most normal thing in the world

Silver and Bluenote are pretty much at the same level (Gray wasn't stronger than Silver, it's just his ice didn't work on Gray and Silver wanted him to win)
 

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I was just saying that wasn't a regular punch (kinda like Sanji has stronger kicks, not just regular ones)

The difference between Gildarts vs Bluenote and Natsu vs Bluenote is before Gildarts could use that attack he had to go through a hard fight, Natsu was chilling with a girl in his arms and just made that gigantic ass attack like it was the most normal thing in the world

Silver and Bluenote are pretty much at the same level (Gray wasn't stronger than Silver, it's just his ice didn't work on Gray and Silver wanted him to win)
once again. he did NOt had to go through a hard fight to beat blue note. how was that a hard fight? if you want to call it something then it was not even around mid diff. he got owned by a gildarts that wasn't even close to go all out.

how is that a normal attack? did you even read the chapter and saw what his flames did and how they changed? you do realize this natsu is getting close to show is END power and yet you cry it is bs. how is that bs? gildrats got stronger, gray got stronger and same goes for everyone else. we are coming to the last battles and if natsu can't easily beat a guy that got wrecked from gildrats pre ts than he could never beat acno/zeref. idk why you won't get it but that is your problem from now on.
 

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U dont seem to get it at all... I dont care how much stronger natsu has become or how much stronger luffy has become but luffy never was close to beating let alone 1 shot anyone who was able to give difficulty fight to some of the strongest people of pre-ts, while natsu seems even above gildarts going by this that natsu was doing a csually breath while gildarts wasnt having an easy time against blue note, while in the other hand someone like doflamingo who Im not positive that would give someone like rayleigh or aokiji even low diff at this rate is tossing around law and luffy, the example with pica makes no sense whatsoever in this discussion...
I did get it but we shouldn't say Gildarts back then is similar to Rayleigh.It's because the power levels in Op are different from that of FT. Rayleigh for example was a 100 times stronger than Luffy pre TS where as the difference b/w GA and Natsu was not as big as that of Luffy and Rayleigh by the time of his battle with blue note. Rayleigh can solo all super novas where as Gildarts can't solo FT all by himself. Rayleigh stood at the top of OP verse where as Pre TS Gildarts is nowhere near likes of Zeref,Acnologia,END and Igneel who stood at the top of FT verse. Surpassing Pre TS Gildarts after 2 time skips isn't much of a deal.

Besides, I don't even remember Gildarts using high level magic against blue note. He beat him purely with his physical strength/ low level magic.
 
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bluenote was never a match for gildarts. Tt arc natsu is stronger than bluenote but the fight would end high diff for natsu. Then he trainned to defeat one of the most powerful villians of FT Acnologia whom even gildarts cannot hold a candle against and you expect him to come and start playing around with bluenote. IMO if he didnt one shot bluenote then he is not ready for Acnologia.
 

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i see two sides arguing and both sides are somewhat wrong
first of all ,bluenote was equalling gildarts in physical strength, gildarts was slightly stronger,when it came to magic,gildarts got the better of bluenote and crashed his strongest attack,that dont make bluenote unworthy, he was dfeated by gildarts whow was stronger than most of the character introduced
second ,igneel and other dragons being inside the ds were restricting there power to a high extent,they were surviving on the ds power and making them some kind of antibodies to protect them from dragonification,
now they are not interferring with the ds's bodies , so ds have huge room of powerup
the ds from 400 years ago were slaying dragons up and down, so yeah this power that natsu is weilding ryt now is not sudden,but its explained,and knowing how powerful the ds from 400 years ago were, we can pretty muh accept natsu's growth
 

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once again. he did NOt had to go through a hard fight to beat blue note. how was that a hard fight? if you want to call it something then it was not even around mid diff. he got owned by a gildarts that wasn't even close to go all out.

how is that a normal attack? did you even read the chapter and saw what his flames did and how they changed? you do realize this natsu is getting close to show is END power and yet you cry it is bs. how is that bs? gildrats got stronger, gray got stronger and same goes for everyone else. we are coming to the last battles and if natsu can't easily beat a guy that got wrecked from gildrats pre ts than he could never beat acno/zeref. idk why you won't get it but that is your problem from now on.
They were beating the crap out of eachother but yeah it was totally being easy for Gildarts... And btw Gildarts' last attack is the strongest attack we've seen from him

Bruh I know that was a strong attack, but that ain't the point, the point is he shouldn't be this strong in the beggining of the timeskip, that's like Naruto one shotting Akatsuki members in the Kazekage arc


i see two sides arguing and both sides are somewhat wrong
first of all ,bluenote was equalling gildarts in physical strength, gildarts was slightly stronger,when it came to magic,gildarts got the better of bluenote and crashed his strongest attack,that dont make bluenote unworthy, he was dfeated by gildarts whow was stronger than most of the character introduced
second ,igneel and other dragons being inside the ds were restricting there power to a high extent,they were surviving on the ds power and making them some kind of antibodies to protect them from dragonification,
now they are not interferring with the ds's bodies , so ds have huge room of powerup
the ds from 400 years ago were slaying dragons up and down, so yeah this power that natsu is weilding ryt now is not sudden,but its explained,and knowing how powerful the ds from 400 years ago were, we can pretty muh accept natsu's growth
If Natsu had gone Dragon Force I would've understand it, but this was his base form and he didn't even get serious
 

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Bruh before that they were fighting almost equally, lol there had to be a last attack, and that was a magic enhanced punch since he gave it a name and it created a whole in the clouds
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Tartarus Natsu got one-shot by Silver...

So you totally forgot to read the pages in which Natsu was fighting on par with Final form of Mard who's far stronger than Hades and Blue note?
 

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They were beating the crap out of eachother but yeah it was totally being easy for Gildarts... And btw Gildarts' last attack is the strongest attack we've seen from him

Bruh I know that was a strong attack, but that ain't the point, the point is he shouldn't be this strong in the beggining of the timeskip, that's like Naruto one shotting Akatsuki members in the Kazekage arc



If Natsu had gone Dragon Force I would've understand it, but this was his base form and he didn't even get serious

He didn't get serious? it was just an attack? Yeah pls read the chapter again.

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They were beating the crap out of eachother but yeah it was totally being easy for Gildarts... And btw Gildarts' last attack is the strongest attack we've seen from him

Bruh I know that was a strong attack, but that ain't the point, the point is he shouldn't be this strong in the beggining of the timeskip, that's like Naruto one shotting Akatsuki members in the Kazekage arc



If Natsu had gone Dragon Force I would've understand it, but this was his base form and he didn't even get serious
dragon force for bluenote?, he should go df for dragons not bluenote, dragons>>>>>hades,mard ,gildarts,bluenote and all other top mages
 

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You lads seem to forget that Natsu is E.N.D. He is afterall, the strongest demon out of Zeref's book and has spend a year on sheer training.

His objectives are to defeat Acnologia, avenging Igneel's death and kill Zeref.
So why are you lads bothered by Natsu one-shotting a fodder like monkey-face?

Please explain the butthurtness.
 

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They were beating the crap out of eachother but yeah it was totally being easy for Gildarts... And btw Gildarts' last attack is the strongest attack we've seen from him

Bruh I know that was a strong attack, but that ain't the point, the point is he shouldn't be this strong in the beggining of the timeskip, that's like Naruto one shotting Akatsuki members in the Kazekage arc

Obviously not reading manga properly. Lol

This is the strongest attack from him. [ ]
 

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dragon force for bluenote?, he should go df for dragons not bluenote, dragons>>>>>hades,mard ,gildarts,bluenote and all other top mages
But that's the point, he shouldn't be schooling top mages in base in the beggining of the time skip, this way he's much stronger than Gildarts, unless we're in the final arc this is not good writting

He didn't get serious? it was just an attack? Yeah pls read the chapter again.

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While holding a girl in his hands and making jokes

This is Natsu serious
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Obviously not reading manga properly. Lol

This is the strongest attack from him. [ ]
Ok *2nd strongest, but still ain't "just a punch" like he was saying
 

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With Ice Devil Gray and he was with Dragon Force

And that doesn't change the fact that this way he's stronger than Gildarts in the beggining of the time skip...

It doesn't matter if he was going all out. The thing is that if he's stronger than Blue Note pre TS then it would make sense for him to be able to one shot him after TS.
 
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