- Joined
- Feb 24, 2013
- Messages
- 4,586
- Reaction score
- 433
I see people say that Itachi's susanoo some how has some kind of counter for Kamui. Please tell me what exactly that is, because here is how I see it:
Let's say that Itachi is in susanoo and has totsuka and yata up and ready to go. Obito is facing off with this. Itachi tries to slash Obito with totsuka. Obito phases through it and runs towards Itachi's susanoo.
Itachi: (in thought) "He's coming at me. I'll block him with yata."
Obito phases through yata and through the front of Itachi's susanoo and manages to get inside of the susanoo. He impales Itachi with wood style cutting technique (which Obito can use while intangible by the way) and battle over.
Alternate ending:
Itachi: (in thought) "He's coming at me. I'll block him with yata."
Obito just uses long range kamui and warps away totsuka and yata. Remember that spiritual weapons or not, they are still objects. Objects can be moved and objects can be warped.
Alternate ending:
Itachi: (in thought) "He's coming at me. I'll block him with yata."
Obito goes into perfect susanoo (or even just legged susanoo for that matter) and jumps over Itachi's susanoo and then sword slashes Itachi's susanoo in the back (Itachi fans seem to forget that yata does not cover Itachi's back). Also, Kamui shuriken warps away yata.
Now to combat the counter that I think Itachi fans use:
Itachi fan: "Obito's intangibility only lasts for 5 minutes, so Itachi can just hold the sword inside of Obito until the time limit runs out."
Counter: Obito can also phase underground where totsuka wouldn't be able to reach. He can also jump a high enough distance in the air where totsuka would not reach him. Furthermore, who is to say that Obito would not be fast enough to simply get out of the sword as Itachi tries to have the sword follow him? After all, totsuka has no speed feats (despite your belief in totsuka blitz). Orochimaru was literally pinned down to Sasuke's shoulder. Therefore Orochimaru couldn't even really move anywhere. Sure the snakes could wiggle their heads around, but they were still confined to the general vicinity due to being stuck in Sasuke's shoulder. Itachi was basically slashing at an almost stagnant target. That is not a speed feat. As for Nagato, Itachi went in for the slash while smoke and debris from the explosion was still floating around and blocking Nagato's view. Therefore, Nagato could not even know to dodge because his vision was blocked when Itachi took out the sword. Thus, it was not a speed feat. It was intelligence of Itachi to attack while his vision was blocked, but it was not a speed feat. It would have only been a speed feat if nothing was blocking Nagato's vision or restricting his movements and Itachi just straight out blitzed him with Nagato both seeing it coming and trying to dodge.
Now Itachi fans, please tell me your logic.
Let's say that Itachi is in susanoo and has totsuka and yata up and ready to go. Obito is facing off with this. Itachi tries to slash Obito with totsuka. Obito phases through it and runs towards Itachi's susanoo.
Itachi: (in thought) "He's coming at me. I'll block him with yata."
Obito phases through yata and through the front of Itachi's susanoo and manages to get inside of the susanoo. He impales Itachi with wood style cutting technique (which Obito can use while intangible by the way) and battle over.
Alternate ending:
Itachi: (in thought) "He's coming at me. I'll block him with yata."
Obito just uses long range kamui and warps away totsuka and yata. Remember that spiritual weapons or not, they are still objects. Objects can be moved and objects can be warped.
Alternate ending:
Itachi: (in thought) "He's coming at me. I'll block him with yata."
Obito goes into perfect susanoo (or even just legged susanoo for that matter) and jumps over Itachi's susanoo and then sword slashes Itachi's susanoo in the back (Itachi fans seem to forget that yata does not cover Itachi's back). Also, Kamui shuriken warps away yata.
Now to combat the counter that I think Itachi fans use:
Itachi fan: "Obito's intangibility only lasts for 5 minutes, so Itachi can just hold the sword inside of Obito until the time limit runs out."
Counter: Obito can also phase underground where totsuka wouldn't be able to reach. He can also jump a high enough distance in the air where totsuka would not reach him. Furthermore, who is to say that Obito would not be fast enough to simply get out of the sword as Itachi tries to have the sword follow him? After all, totsuka has no speed feats (despite your belief in totsuka blitz). Orochimaru was literally pinned down to Sasuke's shoulder. Therefore Orochimaru couldn't even really move anywhere. Sure the snakes could wiggle their heads around, but they were still confined to the general vicinity due to being stuck in Sasuke's shoulder. Itachi was basically slashing at an almost stagnant target. That is not a speed feat. As for Nagato, Itachi went in for the slash while smoke and debris from the explosion was still floating around and blocking Nagato's view. Therefore, Nagato could not even know to dodge because his vision was blocked when Itachi took out the sword. Thus, it was not a speed feat. It was intelligence of Itachi to attack while his vision was blocked, but it was not a speed feat. It would have only been a speed feat if nothing was blocking Nagato's vision or restricting his movements and Itachi just straight out blitzed him with Nagato both seeing it coming and trying to dodge.
Now Itachi fans, please tell me your logic.