Why does people think Kakashi's/Itachi's PS is the strongest ?

[Tantalus Thief]

I'm sorry, does Madara, Sasuke or Kakashi posses the weapons to neg-diff God himself?

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Do you and all the other Itachi fanboys know what the meaning of hyperbole. Because by your logic Temari can blow away the universe, Raikir can cut through anything, there is no defense against Kamui, hell I guess Kushimaru's sword can pierce through anything too :leaf:

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[BLAZE]

If sasuke's senbon hit a target that was stronger than it defensively, then nothing would happen. If a kamui shuriken hit a target that was stronger than it then it would still get warped away. That's the difference, any defense that would otherwise be impossible to penetrate becomes vulnerable to a kamui shuriken.

huh it matched Rikudo Senjutsu enhanced Bijuudama :|

 

[Chazzi]

Do you and all the other Itachi fanboys know what the meaning of hyperbole. Because by your logic Temari can blow away the universe, Raikir can cut through anything, there is no defense against Kamui, hell I guess Kushimaru's sword can pierce through anything too :leaf:

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None of those are a spirit weapon, unlike Yata & Totsuka.

Do you even understand the meaning of completely invincible?

 

[Draphsin]

huh it matched Rikudo Senjutsu enhanced Bijuudama :|

I guess I wasn't specific enough. Imagine a wall that can't be destroyed, by anything. Sasuke's attack would do nothing to it, while kakashi would be able to warp it away.

A PS on a higher level than sasuke's still gets warped away, sasuke's senbon would then be tanked.

Point being, kamui can bypass things that sasuke's attacks can't.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

We r talking about PS aren't we :|

The PS can use the same abilities as the user like kamui shuriken being from kamui not the PS itself so both sasuke and madara can repel all projecitles with PS ST.

 

[BLAZE]

I guess I wasn't specific enough. Imagine a wall that can't be destroyed, by anything. Sasuke's attack would do nothing to it, while kakashi would be able to warp it away.

A PS on a higher level than sasuke's still gets warped away, sasuke's senbon would then be tanked.

Point being, kamui can bypass things that sasuke's attacks can't.

i see

The PS can use the same abilities as the user like kamui shuriken being from kamui not the PS itself so both sasuke and madara can repel all projecitles with PS ST.

dat would be an assumption
Till now the haven't shown dat

 

[Megax Rocker7]

I guess I wasn't specific enough. Imagine a wall that can't be destroyed, by anything. Sasuke's attack would do nothing to it, while kakashi would be able to warp it away.

A PS on a higher level than sasuke's still gets warped away, sasuke's senbon would then be tanked.

Point being, kamui can bypass things that sasuke's attacks can't.

so basically you're saying that chidori senpon might make more damage against anything it can destroy while kamui shuriken can destroy anything regardless right? Then I guess Kakashi's PS would be the best in that regard.

then again there's hardly anything sasuke's PS can't destroy since the most durable things in the manga are probably PS, TSB, kurama avatar and yata mirror . if we take yata's hype then yeah I guess kakashi's PS is the only thing that can destroy it.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

nobody was shown able to avoid being the CT core since if you're the core then you can't avoid anything since they'll just keep following you from all sides.

kamui shuriken is just a shuriken that truns to kamui warp holes in contact and gets destroyed with projectiles stop denying this fact.

If one of madara's clones is in the other side (kamui land) each time kakashi uses phasing the clones will hit him from there.

and about sasuke not teleporting inside naruto's avatar is because plot stopped from doing so plus genjutsu rinnegan makes short work out of kakashi.

I'm not denying anything I'm countering you and you don't seem to like it.

you do realise you need to put someone into genjutsu to prevent him moving and only then you can cast CT

 

[BLAZE]

you do realise you need to put someone into genjutsu to prevent him moving and only then you can cast CT

do u realise dats not the case.CT just requires a core and gravitational pull will do rest of the work

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

so basically you're saying that chidori senpon might make more damage against anything it can destroy while kamui shuriken can destroy anything regardless right? Then I guess Kakashi's PS would be the best in that regard.

then again there's hardly anything sasuke's PS can't destroy since the most durable things in the manga are probably PS, TSB, kurama avatar and yata mirror . if we take yata's hype then yeah I guess kakashi's PS is the only thing that can destroy it.

Kakashi susanoo is strongest since Kamui is not destroying its warping things

 

[Draphsin]

so basically you're saying that chidori senpon might make more damage against anything it can destroy while kamui shuriken can destroy anything regardless right? Then I guess Kakashi's PS would be the best in that regard.

Yeah.

then again there's hardly anything sasuke's PS can't destroy since the most durable things in the manga are probably PS, TSB, kurama avatar and yata mirror . if we take yata's hype then yeah I guess kakashi's PS is the only thing that can destroy it.

I know the margin is small, but it still is the more efficient attack.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

do u realise dats not the case.CT just requires a core and gravitational pull will do rest of the work

yes but target will in that case move or use some jutsu to destroy that rock around him that is purpose of genjutsu if you are in genjutsu you cant move or use ninjutsu

 

[BLAZE]

yes but target will in that case move or use some jutsu to destroy that rock around him that is purpose of genjutsu if you are in genjutsu you cant move or use ninjutsu

Genjutsu makes it all smooth its not a requirement

 

[Megax Rocker7]

i see

dat would be an assumption
Till now the haven't shown dat

Sasuke's PS was shown using chidori and and madara's used deva path to pull a meteor from space to earth.

I doubt these powers came from the PS it's self since madara's ps couldn't use six paths before he got the rinnegan so the PS can use the same jutsu as the it's owner it was shown three times:

1-The meteor madara pulled from space via deva path

2-Kamui shuriken which are normal susanoo projectiles shaped as shuriken and coated with kamui like kakashi stated.

3-Sasuke's PS using chidori

 

[End of Days]

oh.... that's an interesting way of using it but wouldn't that warp kakashi's PS arm as well? then again it's still not possible to touch sasuke and madara since they can use deva path and madara can repel the shuriken if thrown using deva path or yasaka magamata.

Unless they show deva path on screen I wouldn't take that into consideration, rinnegan is very inconsistent in war arc.
Madara or obito never use deva path even though it could be useful in so many situations.

In any case deva has 5 second interval which kakashi knows about and was prepared for in the war.

Why is it not possible to touch sasuke? if you are saying its because of his nw jutsu it has limited range and cool down same as deva path

 

[BLAZE]

Sasuke's PS was shown using chidori and and madara's used deva path to pull a meteor from space to earth.

I doubt these powers came from the PS it's self since madara's ps couldn't use six paths before he got the rinnegan so the PS can use the same jutsu as the it's owner it was shown three times:

1-The meteor madara pulled from space via deva path

2-Kamui shuriken which are normal susanoo projectiles shaped as shuriken and coated with kamui like kakashi stated.

3-Sasuke's PS using chidori

1. was Nvr stated it was Deva path
2. Sasuke does same with kagatsuchi
3. Minato and Naruto used Giant rasengans and FRS with their Kurama avatar

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Genjutsu makes it all smooth its not a requirement

yes it is for example take JJ if sasuke made them core for CT their Gudoudama will do the job for them since it will turn to dust any stone

Now if you somehow put JJ into genjutsu you are controling his will and he wouldnt be able to counter it.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

yes but target will in that case move or use some jutsu to destroy that rock around him that is purpose of genjutsu if you are in genjutsu you cant move or use ninjutsu

I don't see anyone (except other rinnegan users who can ST to repel all the rocks) being able to defend from rocks from all sides sure he can deflect some but in the end he'll trapped enough time for sasuke to suck him dry of chakra since he absorbed chakra from 9 bijuu at the same time in mere seocnds so if he focuses that n CT ad to that kakashi having less chakra than bijuu I don't see him surviving that.

Genjutsu only stops the futile resistance. then again I don't see what's stopping sasuke from casting genjutsu on kakashi since he has no way of countering rinnegan genjutsu.

 

[BLAZE]

yes it is for example take JJ if sasuke made them core for CT their Gudoudama will do the job for them since it will turn to dust any stone

Now if you somehow put JJ into genjutsu you are controling his will and he wouldnt be able to counter it.

Uh no Goudama can erase Ninjutsu.The Rocks of CT r just normal rocks without chakra pulled via gravitation

 

[Megax Rocker7]

yes it is for example take JJ if sasuke made them core for CT their Gudoudama will do the job for them since it will turn to dust any stone

Now if you somehow put JJ into genjutsu you are controling his will and he wouldnt be able to counter it.

the TSB turn jutsu to dust not all matter that's why sakura wasn't turned to dust when madara impaled her so normal rocks won't be turned to dust and if so more rocks would still come.

but madara can use ST to repel the rocks thus canceling CT anyway so need for him to use TSB.