Why Naruto is superior to Ashura: Yay or nay?

[KingHashirama]

lol dude He gave ashura power. Ashura do not have enough chakra on his own to connect everybody through ninshuu. Therefore his father gave him power to do so.

if Ashura had the power he gave to Naruto and Sasuke........... Indra would've been destroyed neg-diff.


Ashura and Indra didn't get any powerups from their dieing daddy.

Dude, Ninshu doesn't have anything to do here since it has no relevance to Naruto and Sasuke. He was talking about Indra and Ashura in correlation to Naruto and Sasuke. If the correlation is there, there's no way he was talking about political power because it would be of no significance to Naruto and Sasuke. Logical deduction would be that he's talking about his powers.

"That's why this time I entrusted the same amount of power to both of them."

Key points are this time and same amount. The first bolded means that he's done it before and we know it's about Indra and Ashura because he was talking about them in the same premise. The second bolded part indicates that he gave them both power as opposed to last time when it apparently wasn't the same amount. If you don't get this, don't reply anymore. Thanks.

Before = gave power (can mean alot of things, more precisely ninshuu teachings) to 1 person = not the same amount

This time = gives both of them equal power = same amount.

 

[Romy9]

My responses usually always revolve around feats, so I can't give you a good answer based on a featless character whose only feat is the "Ashura" avatar, which Naruto made at VoTE.... Unless you want portrayal Lel

Well, what do you think of the original question? Would Naruto indeed prove superior in your eyes because of the simple fact that he and Sasuke were equal (more or less) whereas Indra and Ashura weren't?

 

[Amaterasu]

Naruto should be superior. Naruto has Ashura's chakra on top of having full kurama and rikudo's senjutsu. Naruto takes it.

Ashura had Kurama and Ninshu tho

 

[Romy9]

Before = gave power (can mean alot of things, more precisely ninshuu teachings) to 1 person = not the same amount

This time = gives both of them equal power = same amount.

You're literally a perfect example of a member who disregards common sense on these forums. Congratulations.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Ashura is more superior

 

[Nagi]

if Ashura had the power he gave to Naruto and Sasuke........... Indra would've been destroyed neg-diff.


Ashura and Indra didn't get any powerups from their dieing daddy.



Before = gave power (can mean alot of things, more precisely ninshuu teachings) to 1 person = not the same amount

This time = gives both of them equal power = same amount.

Nope. Indra is a battle god! it is not always the strongest one that win the battle. You should've learn that by now by seeing how Madara was able to hold his own against hashirama countless time. You know that Sasuke is inexperience compare to naruto since naruto get mad exp points from his shadow clones.

 

[V h o]

Well, what do you think of the original question? Would Naruto indeed prove superior in your eyes because of the simple fact that he and Sasuke were equal (more or less) whereas Indra and Ashura weren't?

Still can't say, Sasuke and Naruto being comparable still doesn't mean Ashura and Indra's were weaker, especially when Indra had PS with MS (I believe).

 

[Romy9]

Nope. Indra is a battle god! it is not always the strongest one that win the battle. You should've learn that by now by seeing how Madara was able to hold his own against hashirama countless time. You know that Sasuke is inexperience compare to naruto since naruto get mad exp points from his shadow clones.

Indra and Ashura are featless. You can only assume their power. Which is why I didn't go into that depth. I just wanted to know the opinion about the advantage but I didn't realize a lot of people don't seem to understand that Hagoromo gave only power to Ashura that time, despite being said in the manga,.

Still can't say, Sasuke and Naruto being comparable still doesn't mean Ashura and Indra's were weaker, especially when Indra had PS with MS (I believe).

Yeah, but that's irrelevant. Indra didn't receive Hagoromo's power, Ashura did. Ashura had a lot more advantage in that battle than Naruto who got equal power to Sasuke's.

 

[VongolaX]

The key in that sentence is "THIS TIME". It doesn't matter how much power he gave him. The point is that he gave him some sort of power. I don't know if you people struggle with semantics or simply deny its meaning.

I think it has became blatantly clear that you don't know how to read or even know what the word "semantics," even mean.

"This time," has little or nothing to do with the quantity of each power handed.

In fact there are no measurements to be found, if he blossomed the same power as his brother.

It means that they're was a change in approach while handing out power and since the only difference that Hagoromoo noted is that one person received both powers instead of more powers, your petty assessment is invalid.

Enjoy your troll thread

 

[Lord Tywin]

Ashura had Kurama and Ninshu tho

Where'd you get that from? Lol

 

[Romy9]

I think it has became blatantly clear that you don't know how to read or even know what the word "semantics," even mean.

"This time," has little or nothing to do with the quantity of each power handed.

In fact there are no measurements to be found, if he blossomed the same power as his brother.

It means that they're was a change in approach while handing out power and since the only difference that Hagoromoo noted is that one person received both powers instead of more powers, your petty assessment is invalid.

Enjoy your troll thread

Get out, man. You're clearly denying a simple sentence that says everything. Just get the **** out, I don't wanna insult you as I usually do. On your way out, here's a simple elaboration to even a simpler matter:

Ninshu doesn't have anything to do here since it has no relevance to Naruto and Sasuke. He was talking about Indra and Ashura in correlation to Naruto and Sasuke. If the correlation is there, there's no way he was talking about political power because it would be of no significance to Naruto and Sasuke. Logical deduction would be that he's talking about his powers.

"That's why this time I entrusted the same amount of power to both of them."

Key points are this time and same amount. The first bolded means that he's done it before and we know it's about Indra and Ashura because he was talking about them in the same premise. The second bolded part indicates that he gave them both power as opposed to last time when it apparently wasn't the same amount. If you don't get this, don't reply anymore. Thanks.

 

[KingHashirama]

Nope. Indra is a battle god! it is not always the strongest one that win the battle. You should've learn that by now by seeing how Madara was able to hold his own against hashirama countless time. You know that Sasuke is inexperience compare to naruto since naruto get mad exp points from his shadow clones.

Because Hashirama never wanted to kill Madara... and it always resulted in Hashirama letting Madara leave?

You're literally a perfect example of a member who disregards common sense on these forums. Congratulations.

Do you comprehend anything, or are just stuck on what you think is right?

Did you comprehend the context rikudou was talking in?

Do you know what he was talking about when he said "same amount of power"?

 

[Amaterasu]

Where'd you get that from? Lol

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and Hagoromo said himself he gave Ninshuu to him.

 

[Lord Tywin]

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and Hagoromo said himself he gave Ninshuu to him.

That doesn't remotely look like kurama. Also Hagoromo said that he awakened his own power. He didn't have help from the bijuu.
Ninshu is just chakra sharing, like how Naruto connected the alliance with Kurama's chakra.

 

[V h o]

Yeah, but that's irrelevant. Indra didn't receive Hagoromo's power, Ashura did. Ashura had a lot more advantage in that battle than Naruto who got equal power to Sasuke's.

Still doesn't matter how close Naruto and Sasuke were, because their power does not represent Indra and Ashura's power they held at that time.

 

[Nagi]

Because Hashirama never wanted to kill Madara... and it always resulted in Hashirama letting Madara leave?

proof of that? Hashirama is not the type to allow his clan to battle the uchiha and say, " You can kill any uchiha, just not Madara." or the type to say, " Madara, I'll let my brother kill your brother and some of your people, but I'll let you live." They was fighting serious 90 percents of the time. Otherwise Hashirama would've just beat the whole uchiha clan and prison or whatever wayy before the village was found.

 

[Amaterasu]

That doesn't remotely look like kurama. Also Hagoromo said that he awakened his own power. He didn't have help from the bijuu.
Ninshu is just chakra sharing, like how Naruto connected the alliance with Kurama's chakra.

Really bro :|
What is it then ?

 

[Romy9]

Still doesn't matter how close Naruto and Sasuke were, because their power does not represent Indra and Ashura's power they held at that time.

I agree, but since they're their transmigrants, it's safe to assume how close they were. And the issue here is Indra having one powerup less than Ashura.

 

[KingHashirama]

proof of that? Hashirama is not the type to allow his clan to battle the uchiha and say, " You can kill any uchiha, just not Madara." or the type to say, " Madara, I'll let my brother kill your brother and some of your people, but I'll let you live." They was fighting serious 90 percents of the time. Otherwise Hashirama would've just beat the whole uchiha clan and prison or whatever wayy before the village was found.

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[Lord Tywin]

Really bro :|
What is it then ?

That looks humanoid. Doesn't have the fox's face. That's his own power blossomed.