Why Naruto is superior to Ashura: Yay or nay?

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
Hey guys. I skimmed through the chapters again recently and noticed again the fact that Hagoromo entrusted his powers only to Ashura when the two brothers started the first war between them. Indra obviously didn't enjoy the powerup from his father since he thought the right way to go about it was only to give Ashura an advantage.

Since this time around he gave his powers equally to both brothers, do you agree that Naruto appears to be superior than his predecessor because of the lack of an advantage the latter had?
 

Neji360

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Aug 10, 2011
Messages
2,064
Reaction score
116
Naruto is superior to everyone...
 

xXMadaraUchiaXx

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Apr 16, 2014
Messages
1,538
Reaction score
116
ashura + indra = Dad
Naruto +Sasuke +sage powerups =ashura + indra = dad
 

Lord Tywin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
11,086
Reaction score
899
Naruto should be superior. Naruto has Ashura's chakra on top of having full kurama and rikudo's senjutsu. Naruto takes it.
 

VongolaX

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jul 28, 2012
Messages
17,132
Reaction score
630
He trusted the power of ninshuu, which are those seals.

Ashura is stil stronger than RSM naruto, he blossomed the equiviliant senjustu as Hagoromoo.
 

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
ashura + indra = Dad
Naruto +Sasuke +sage powerups =ashura + indra = dad

That's false exactly because of the fact that Indra didn't get his power. If he didn't, he probably didn't get Rinnegan.

He trusted the power of ninshuu, which are those seals.

Ashura is stil stronger than RSM naruto, he blossomed the equiviliant senjustu as Hagoromoo.

He blossomed it because Hagoromo gave him the power, just like he did to Naruto.
 

BLAZE

Sage of Six Posts 🔮
Immortal
Joined
Apr 4, 2014
Messages
59,497
Reaction score
3,577
i don't Know
 

take it easy

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Apr 30, 2013
Messages
15,176
Reaction score
1,314
Ashura got from sage only power of ninshuu not any real power unlike Naruto.
 

xXMadaraUchiaXx

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Apr 16, 2014
Messages
1,538
Reaction score
116
That's false exactly because of the fact that Indra didn't get his power. If he didn't, he probably didn't get Rinnegan.



He blossomed it because Hagoromo gave him the power, just like he did to Naruto.



I thought sage Said one of his son was Born with Talent power and so on and the other Born as noob
 

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
Ashura got from sage only power of ninshuu not any real power unlike Naruto.

He left him the power as well.

I thought sage Said one of his son was Born with Talent power and so on and the other Born as noob

He did. And he said that he later got better because others acknowledged him, much like Naruto. Hagoromo's mistake was that he left power only to him, which was a mistake. That's why this time he gave them both power.
 

VongolaX

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jul 28, 2012
Messages
17,132
Reaction score
630
That's false exactly because of the fact that Indra didn't get his power. If he didn't, he probably didn't get Rinnegan.



He blossomed it because Hagoromo gave him the power, just like he did to Naruto.

No he didn't:

 

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
No he didn't:


He did. You misunderstood. Hagoromo was talking about acknowledgment of others which was the reason why he got better and stronger, like Naruto did.

He gave power only to Ashura and this time, he gave them both.
 

To Whatever

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
Naruto succeeded where Ashura failed: Reconciling with his brother.

Imagine if those two made up before they died. The world would have not been so warmongering.
 

KingHashirama

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jun 30, 2012
Messages
27,280
Reaction score
1,690
1. Ashura doesn't have Rikudou's power ups.

2. He is about EMS level or so.

3. His power's hype wasn't even recognized in his own clan.

4. Naruto is the new epitome of the Senju bloodline.
 

Romy9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 12, 2014
Messages
2,841
Reaction score
177
1. Ashura doesn't have Rikudou's power ups.

According to Hagoromo's comment, he did have his powers.

I'm actually interested what you guys get from his line in the last left panel.
 

Rikodou Mode

Banned
Veteran
Joined
Dec 4, 2014
Messages
3,003
Reaction score
164
This was obvious ever since Sasuke surpassed Indra. Ashura had healing, mokuton, SM and avatar mode and goududama. Naruto has all of those including 9 bijuu and TSB that Ashura didn't have

And considering Naruto already had Ashura's chakra, when he received Hagoromo's chakra it ended up being (Ashura+Ashura+Indra)

JJ Madara = Naruto + Sasuke > Hagoromo
 
Last edited:

Rikodou Mode

Banned
Veteran
Joined
Dec 4, 2014
Messages
3,003
Reaction score
164
According to Hagoromo's comment, he did have his powers.

I'm actually interested what you guys get from his line in the last left panel.

I don't think he meant literal power, he was saying that as he dies he ensured that Ashura carries out his will. The only power he got from him was the use of Ninshuu. As inheritor of Ninshuu he was a leader of many followers and hence gained political power.
 
Last edited:
Top