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Is this true? ^

Reminds me of that biblical statement translated in cymatics. Everything in existence is the result of a frequency. The bible says; In the beginning was the word, and the word was god. (word = symbolic for sound frequency.


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It comes from Aramaic, the language jesus spoke, and Aramaic is different from hebrew

Anyway if you are interested to know which language is the oldest then:

Albanian language is the oldest

Aphrodite - Afër dita - the day is near
Dionysus - Dija jonë - our knowledge
Hera - Era - Wind and good smell
Iris - I rris - I raise
Poseidon - posedon - has
Uranus - oh ra - oh it fell down
Zeus - Zë - sound
 
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It comes from Aramaic, the language jesus spoke, and Aramaic is different from hebrew

Anyway if you are interested to know which language is the oldest then:

Albanian language is the oldest

Aphrodite - Afër dita - the day is near
Dionysus - Dija jonë - our knowledge
Hera - Era - Wind and good smell
Iris - I rris - I raise
Poseidon - posedon - has
Uranus - oh ra - oh it fell down
Zeus - Zë - sound
That's interesting and thanks for sharing
 

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It comes from Aramaic, the language jesus spoke, and Aramaic is different from hebrew

Anyway if you are interested to know which language is the oldest then:

Albanian language is the oldest

Aphrodite - Afër dita - the day is near
Dionysus - Dija jonë - our knowledge
Hera - Era - Wind and good smell
Iris - I rris - I raise
Poseidon - posedon - has
Uranus - oh ra - oh it fell down
Zeus - Zë - sound
Wait, those are the names of greek and roman Gods, what do they have to do with Hebrew and Aramaic?
 

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I speak Hebrew and no, this is closer to Aramaic (though it wouldn't be pronounced that way in Aramaic either.) In Aramaic: אברא כדברא (pronounced ehbrah k'dahbrah.) Hebrew and Aramaic are very similar though. To convert that to Hebrew I'd just need to remove one letter: אברא כדבר (ehbrah k'daber.)

Really though, it doesn't sound the same as "abracadabra" that you'd hear a magician say, and it's probably coincidence that there's any similarity.
 

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I speak Hebrew and no, this is closer to Aramaic (though it wouldn't be pronounced that way in Aramaic either.) In Aramaic: אברא כדברא (pronounced ehbrah k'dahbrah.) Hebrew and Aramaic are very similar though. To convert that to Hebrew I'd just need to remove one letter: אברא כדבר (ehbrah k'daber.)

Really though, it doesn't sound the same as "abracadabra" that you'd hear a magician say, and it's probably coincidence that there's any similarity.
But, so the meaning of the word as depicted in the image is legit?
 

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No one knows it seems although there are many theories about it.

For what it’s worth, here are some theories:
  • It’s from the Aramaic phrase avra kehdabra, meaning “I will create as I speak”.
  • The source is three Hebrew words, ab (father), ben (son), and ruach acadosch (holy spirit).
  • It’s from the Chaldean abbada ke dabra, meaning “perish like the word”.
  • It originated with a Gnostic sect in Alexandria called the Basilidians and was probably based on Abrasax, the name of their supreme deity (Abraxas in Latin sources).
one of the oldest records we have of “Abracadabra” being used is a snippet from a Roman sage named Serenus Sammonicus in the 2nd century AD from his Liber Medicinalis:

The malady the Greeks call hemitritaeos is more deadly. None of our ancestors could name this disease in our own language, nor did they feel the need to. On a piece of parchment, write the so-called ‘abracadabra’ several times, repeating it on the line below; but take off the end, so that gradually individual letters, which you will take away each time, are missing from the word. Continue until the (last) letter makes the apex of a cone. Remember to wind this with linen and hang it around the neck. Many people say that the lard of a lion is effective . . .

abacadabraIt’s unlikely that Sammonicus came up with the word on his own and it is thought to have been in use before then. There are a couple of theories as to where it might have ultimately come from. First, it could have been derived from the equally magical word “abraxas” whose letters, in Greek numerology, add up to 365—the number of days in the year. It could be that early sages thought this was a powerful word and somehow created “abracadabra” out of it and turned it into a “cure.”

Alternatively, the word might be derived from the Hebrew words for “father, son, and holy spirit”: “ab, ben, and ruach hakodesh” respectively. Perhaps more intuitively, it could be derived from and Aramaic phrase “avra kadavra.” Harry Potter fans will likely know that this is what JK Rowling used when she was coming up with the killing curse “avada kedavra.” In an interview, she stated that the original phrase meant “let the thing be destroyed,” (more on this in the Bonus Facts below) which would suit the cure-theory well; abracadabra was written to “destroy” the sickness.

As strange as it may seem today, people did wear talismans of sorts with the “abracadabra” cone as Sammonicus described. It was thought to cure diseases, fever, and other problems by siphoning it out of the person and expelling it through that bottom “A”. Obviously it would have no more than a placebo effect on the user, but people seem to put a lot of stock in it. For example, in the 1500s Eva Rimmington Taylor wrote The Troublesome Voyage of Capt. Edward Fenton, in which she claimed:

Banester sayth yt he healed 200 in one yer of an ague by hanging abracadabra about their necks.

Abracadabra was still used as a “cure” well into the 18th century, as evidenced by a 1722 book by Daniel Defoe titled Journal of Plague Year, which lamented the use of such charms:

People deceiv’d; and this was in wearing Charms, Philters, Exorcisms, Amulets, and I know not what Preparations, to fortify the Body with them against the Plague; as if the Plague was but a kind of a Possession of an evil Spirit; and that it was to be kept off with Crossings, Signs of the Zodiac, Papers tied up with so many Knots; and certain Words, or Figures written on them, as particularly the Word Abracadabra, form’d in Triangle, or Pyramid…

How the poor People found the Insufficiency of those things, and how many of them were afterwards carried away in the Dead-Carts.

Eventually, people let go of the abracadabra superstition and by the 19th century the practice of hanging an abracadabra charm around your neck to cure disease had died down



The word may have its origin in the Aramaic language, but numerous conflicting folk etymologies are associated with it.

The word Abracadabra may derive from an Aramaic phrase meaning "I create as I speak."[1] This etymology is dubious, however, as אברא כדברא in Aramaic is more reasonably translated "I create like the word." Jesus called himself "The Word". "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made"[2] Thus, "I create like the Word." The second lexeme in this supposedly Aramaic phrase might be a noun given the presence of the definite article[citation needed] on the end of the word (it cannot be an infinitive construct, as the infinitive cannot take the definite article). Regardless, this phrase would actually be pronounced ebra kidbara, which is clearly different from abracadabra[citation needed]. In the Hebrew language, the phrase translates more accurately as "it came to pass as it was spoken."[3]

"[A]bracadabra may comprise the abbreviated forms of the Hebrew words Ab (Father), Ben (Son) and Ruach A Cadsch (Holy Spirit), though an alternative derivation relates the word to Abraxas, a god with snakes for feet who was worshipped in Alexandria in pre-Christian times."[4] David Pickering's description of the word as an abbreviation from Hebrew is also a false etymology—as he apparently here means Aramaic (בר is Aramaic for "son", it is בן in Hebrew, although בר is an honorific form), nor does he account for the final five letters (i.e., -dabra) in the lexeme.

The word may have originated as a way to remember the alphabet by pronouncing the first letters ABCD... It becomes more pronounceable and easier to remember by adding repetitive vowel "a" or "ra" sounds where there are none and adding an alliteration "bra" at the end. Writing and the alphabet were a form of magic to most people in those times.
History

The first known mention of the word was in the third century AD in a book called Liber Medicinalis (sometimes known as De Medicina Praecepta Saluberrima) by Quintus Serenus Sammonicus,[5] physician to the Roman emperor Caracalla, who in chapter 51 prescribed that malaria[6] sufferers wear an amulet containing the word written in the form of a triangle:[7]

A - B - R - A - C - A - D - A - B - R - A
A - B - R - A - C - A - D - A - B - R
A - B - R - A - C - A - D - A - B
A - B - R - A - C - A - D - A
A - B - R - A - C - A - D
A - B - R - A - C - A
A - B - R - A - C
A - B - R - A
A - B - R
A - B
A

The power of the amulet, he explained, makes lethal diseases go away.
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No one is sure as to the origin of the strange word 'abracadabra'. It is known to have been in use in 4th century Latin but there are several theories that place the derivation before that, including:

Roman sages, notably Serenus Sammonicus, coined the word and devised the repeated word formula in the 2nd century AD.

It being related to another magical word - 'abraxas'. In the Greek system of alphabetic numerology this word is significant in that it contains letters that add up to 365, the number of days in the year.

The word is of Hebrew or Aramaic origin, being derived either from the Hebrew words 'ab' (father), 'ben' (son), and 'ruach hakodesh' (holy spirit), or from the Aramaic 'avra kadavra', meaning 'it will be created in my words'.

Sadly, none of these theories stands up to close examination and actual documentary evidence is as insubstantial as those fragments of mediaeval paper

abracadabra
(ˌæbrəkəˈdæbrə)
interj
1. a spoken formula, used esp by conjurors
n
2. a word used in incantations, etc, considered to possess magic powers
3. gibberish; nonsense
[C17: from Latin: magical word used in certain Gnostic writings, perhaps related to Greek Abraxas; see abraxas]


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Hmm
(thanks for the effort)

What I wonder about is ancient runes and if any of these type of words like abracadabra were used in ritual chants as their origins are hard to tell. I'm being a little vague here, I know.
 

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(thanks for the effort)

What I wonder about is ancient runes and if any of these type of words like abracadabra were used in ritual chants as their origins are hard to tell. I'm being a little vague here, I know.
All the sources, I found, are unanimous that the oldest historical record of the word is that charm against sickness. Whether that guy made it up himself or learned/came up with it from some other source, no one knows.
 
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No one knows it seems although there are many theories about it.









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Hmm
The top theory about father and son is just wrong though. in Hebrew, the root of the first word literally means create. The Hebrew word for Genesis comes from the same root as create.
 
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