Hebi Sasuke vs Base Minato

[Black Wolf]

Minato is obviously faster than Sasuke, but between Sharingan, CS2, and arm snakes I'm thinking Sasuke can keep up just like he did against V1 Raikage (where he didn't have CS2 to increase his speed and arm snakes to help cover blind spots). CQC attempts can be shut down via Chidori Nagashi, and CS2 should allow him to tank standard blows (the thing was tanking Katons and Deidara's explosions). Sasuke has the range advantage thanks to Katons, and especially Chidori Eiso.

As far as summons go, Manda beat Gamabunta as shown in the manga, and I doubt Manda needs Genjutsu persuasion to fight Gamabunta given their history. Gamabunta is also susceptible to Genjutsu as well.

Minato has his chances if he uses Kage Bunshin smartly to get an opening, but I'm going to side with Sasuke here. Sasuke's only true disadvantage is speed, but I think the Sharingan will help narrow the effect of that gap as will the CS2 transformation. With lethal ranged techniques, CS2 durability boost, potential Genjutsu openings, and overall having better tools at his disposal (sword, rigged shuriken and ninja wire, summoning shuriken, etc), I'll have to give Sasuke the nod here.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke stomps with these restrictions base Minato speed is not impressive only his reaction time

Sasuke high diff if FTG was unrestricted

 

[Beans2]

what are minatos shunshin feats outside ftg exactly to claim it would be sufficient for him to outright bliz sasuke? am curious to know.

My thoughts exactly

 

[Narutimate Storm]

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Minato blitz him bad

The underestimation of minato speed is terrible on this site. Who need feat when you be called fastest of all shinobi (praised amongst all as greatest in god like speed). U_U

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“尾獣チャクラモードのナルトにも追いつけ、”黄色い閃光”にも劣らない神速を誇る。”
A god-like speed that also catches up with Naruto in Tailed—Beast chakra mode, and even praised to be as fast as the “Yellow Flash”.

Minato shunshin = sasuke death

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke stomps with these restrictions base Minato speed is not impressive only his reaction time

Sasuke high diff if FTG was unrestricted

What the hell?

 

[Lariatoo]

Minato mid high.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Shadow clones is enough to overwhelm Sasuke. He could perhaps barely track one minato, but two or three Lol. Minatos speed and numbers will be too much.

Sasuke will die fairly quickly here. Minatos nerve transmissions and reaction speed is too high for measly 3 tomoe.

 

[Beans2]

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Obito let him take Naruto because it was a trap. There were paper bomb

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Minato used FTG in those instances.

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1. Blitzing a weakened Kisame from short range isn't even a good speed feat
2. That says nothing about Minato's shunshin. Bee was referring to Minato's FTG because KCM Naruto >>>> Base Minato shunshin.

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Minato used FTG there.

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Not sure how this is supposed to prove that Minato can outright blitz Sasuke.

 

[Unorthodox]

What the hell?

Maybe i took it to far but Sasuke stands his chances.

Shadow clones is enough to overwhelm Sasuke. He could perhaps barely track one minato, but two or three Lol. Minatos speed and numbers will be too much.
Sasuke will die fairly quickly here. Minatos nerve transmissions and reaction speed is too high for measly 3 tomoe.

Manda shits on shadow clones also Chidori stream prevents any contact whatsoever

Minato is not immune to genjutsu also how many shadow clones can minato use without kurama? we've seen Naruto has an abundence of clones without the help of kurama in thats his go to jutsu also he's the best at it. Also i think Shadow clones would have been really helpful during the obito assult especially since he needed to be a multiply places at once.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Maybe i took it to far but Sasuke stands his chances.



Manda shits on shadow clones also Chidori stream prevents any contact whatsoever

Minato is not immune to genjutsu also how many shadow clones can minato use without kurama? we've seen Naruto has an abundence of clones without the help of kurama in thats his go to jutsu also he's the best at it. Also i think Shadow clones would have been really helpful during the obito assult especially since he needed to be a multiply places at once.

Shadow clones wouldn't have been helpful against Obito because minato with divided chakra can't take on the ninetails can he now? Warping tailed beast bombs, summoning giant toads and teleporting kurama to different locations, while at the same time trying to fight Obito Lol get real. He'd need to be at 100% to produce jutsu on that size scale. That's like saying why didn't Hashriama use a wood clone to fight kurama while the real Hashirama fought Madara.

So Sasuke can spam chidori stream forever now Lol. Minato only has to touch him once and then contract seal gg. Once minato sees chidori stream once, he'll anticipate it the next time. Manda is useless here, because multiple boss toads are too much for him. Bunta, Ken, Hiro... Sage toads, minato summons Shima and then she summons all 3 toads at once lol. Good luck Manda.

Minato isn't immune but it's never touching him, shunshin plus clones equals never hitting minato. Minato has already faced a much stronger Uchiha than Hebi Sasuke and embarrassed him, he has Intel/knowledge on the real Madara (as shown in his fight against Obito)and as Hokage he ruled over all Uchiha. He's not some scrub that's gonna ever fall prey to genjutsu. Even Ay said it, when Tsuande distracted him, he was shocked that he of all people could fall prey to genjutsu. And Madara had to use susanoo to pick him up and pull him in close, because that's the only way you're catching a speedster like A or Minato in genjutsu.

With FTG, Sasuke doesn't last 5 seconds.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Obito let him take Naruto because it was a trap. There were paper bomb
Irrelevant, minato makes the save and Obito then associates Minatos yellow flash title with his shunshin feat. Proving exactly why minato was more than just FTG.

Minato used FTG in those instances.
No he didnt Lol
Minato has a FTG Kunai on top of that tree now? The kanji kishi used is even the same as the one used when Sasuke used shunshin against that curse mark fodder. It was shunshin

Minato saved Kakashi with shunshin, this has been proven time and time again. The kanji used to represent high speed movement. The fact that no mention of marking was mentioned, the fact that the rock fodder mentioned Minatos movement, the fact that when minato teleported to kill the rock fodder, rin says "sensei's art of teleprtation , so fast". Yet she didn't say anything when minato rescued kakashi. Even turn to the next page of that scan and you'll see minato shunshin'd back to the spot he just came from at the exact same speed.

Minato can use FTG in the sky now. This reaching needs to stop. So he used FCD by using FTG to appear above kurama Lol


1. Blitzing a weakened Kisame from short range isn't even a good speed feat
2. That says nothing about Minato's shunshin. Bee was referring to Minato's FTG because KCM Naruto >>>> Base Minato shunshin.
Yamato clearly says Naruto isn't on Minatos level yet. So anyone with a brain knows he's talking about shunshin, KCM Naruto isn't greater than base minato shunshin, at least not at that point, Yamato just said it. Naruto can never reach FTG level, so yamato can never claim that Naruto isn't on Minatos level yet. Bee says shunshin, Yamato says not on Minatos level. Does it need to be spelled out to you more than this.


Minato used FTG there.

With what marking, please show me the marking. The marking on Obito vanished. Kakashi isn't marked. Kishi made no mention of a marking nor did he show the reader, iits clearly shunshin. You can see his cloak flying and everything.

Not sure how this is supposed to prove that Minato can outright blitz Sasuke.

Honestly, some of you guys will go to great lengths to deny something so clear.

 

[makosheva7]

Everyone is saying base Minato's reaction feats are exceptional but there are no speed feats outside FTG. Ok if Sasuke tries to blitz him he reacts and dodges Sasuke's attack and counterattacks with a rasengan to the chest. I dunno that's the way I see it.

He used Rasengan in the split second moment right after he teleported with FTG while Kamui was still activated, that kind of reaction time is a huge problem for a non knowledgeable trying to blitz Sasuke.

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[ARGUS]

sigh, Sasukes sharingan precog barely allowed him to evade V1 Ays elbow, it wasnt even the mans shunshin
tracking minato is useless for sasuke when he is physically too slow and has no means of preventing himself from his attaacks,

not seeing how sasuke would even react to Minatos shunshin either, especially

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and when SM naruto whose reactions are comfortably above sasukes was nearly blitzed by madara,
both madara and itachi are much slower than minato when it comes to speed,

sasuke gets a rasengan slammed in his face before he does shit, he isnt landing a hit on him regardless of his sharingan, and with clones oon the agenda, he gets wrecked
i find it funny that people think he even stands a chance given the vast difference in their skill and power

 

[Narutimate Storm]

@makosheve7
Not to mention he slam that rasengan into Obito, faster than Kunai he threw could travel. He catch the Kunai after the rasengan attack. His striking and hand speed is too much for Sasuke to comprehend.

@beansandcornbread
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You not even worth the time. Claim to be ftg, with no markings lol

 

[Narutimate Storm]

SM Naruto reaction time and speed vs Kurama:

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Base Minato use Hiraishin to appear to kushina, then shunshin to escape same attack sennin mode naruto fail:

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[Unorthodox]

Shadow clones wouldn't have been helpful against Obito because minato with divided chakra can't take on the ninetails can he now? Warping tailed beast bombs, summoning giant toads and teleporting kurama to different locations, while at the same time trying to fight Obito Lol get real. He'd need to be at 100% to produce jutsu on that size scale. That's like saying why didn't Hashriama use a wood clone to fight kurama while the real Hashirama fought Madara.

Lel Okay he can summon clones.

So Sasuke can spam chidori stream forever now Lol. Minato only has to touch him once and then contract seal gg. Once minato sees chidori stream once, he'll anticipate it the next time. Manda is useless here, because multiple boss toads are too much for him. Bunta, Ken, Hiro... Sage toads, minato summons Shima and then she summons all 3 toads at once lol. Good luck Manda.

He does not need to contract seal is useless Manda hates Bunta more then he hates Sasuke so he would try to kill it anyways. Sasuke has multiply ways of blocked a rasengan Lel snake coil is a very effective way also Guided & shuriken with ration of them would destroy the clones easy. Does Minato has the reserves to summon all them lets get real also if Ma & Pa was as easy to summon as the rest of the toads why did jiraiya need a special ritual to summon them instead of just summoning them then they help him get sage mode themselfs would have been more productive Sasuke also can summon an abundence of giant snakes to help him here aswell.

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They would help fight off the frogs also Genjutsu screws the frogs over. Manda already blitz bunta 1 bite it poisons bunta then he's dead after some suffering.

Minato isn't immune but it's never touching him, shunshin plus clones equals never hitting minato. Minato has already faced a much stronger Uchiha than Hebi Sasuke and embarrassed him, he has Intel/knowledge on the real Madara (as shown in his fight against Obito)and as Hokage he ruled over all Uchiha. He's not some scrub that's gonna ever fall prey to genjutsu. Even Ay said it, when Tsuande distracted him, he was shocked that he of all people could fall prey to genjutsu. And Madara had to use susanoo to pick him up and pull him in close, because that's the only way you're catching a speedster like A or Minato in genjutsu.

Minato only defeated Obito because of FTG & prep without he would have been 1 shotted dont get it twisted. Having information means nothing Look at Deidara & danzo all fall prey and Minato may have knowledge but he sure does stare into the

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of Uchiha with no hesitation meaning he can be careless at times. Please dont compare v2 Ei to base minato when it comes to foot speed the two are not even close Minato would have lost if it was not for the seal on Bee tentacle because Ei was confident he would get him no matter what ftg kunai he ran into.

With FTG, Sasuke doesn't last 5 seconds.

well good thing its restricted right.

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and when SM naruto whose reactions are comfortably above sasukes was nearly blitzed by madara,
madara slower than minato when it comes to speed

You need to know the definition of blitz my child because that by no means was a blitz the crow distracted Sasuke and Itachi appeared out of no where to surprise him. Based on what is Minato faster than Madara? Madara almost blitz SM naruto who dodged a v1 users with ease putting Madara above V1 Ration speed comfortably also Maybe it would have been a blitz if he did not have to hit sai first

 

[Gold Lightning]

Lel Okay he can summon clones.



He does not need to contract seal is useless Manda hates Bunta more then he hates Sasuke so he would try to kill it anyways. Sasuke has multiply ways of blocked a rasengan Lel snake coil is a very effective way also Guided & shuriken with ration of them would destroy the clones easy. Does Minato has the reserves to summon all them lets get real also if Ma & Pa was as easy to summon as the rest of the toads why did jiraiya need a special ritual to summon them instead of just summoning them then they help him get sage mode themselfs would have been more productive Sasuke also can summon an abundence of giant snakes to help him here aswell.

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They would help fight off the frogs also Genjutsu screws the frogs over. Manda already blitz bunta 1 bite it poisons bunta then he's dead after some suffering.



Minato only defeated Obito because of FTG & prep without he would have been 1 shotted dont get it twisted. Having information means nothing Look at Deidara & danzo all fall prey and Minato may have knowledge but he sure does stare into the

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of Uchiha with no hesitation meaning he can be careless at times. Please dont compare v2 Ei to base minato when it comes to foot speed the two are not even close Minato would have lost if it was not for the seal on Bee tentacle because Ei was confident he would get him no matter what ftg kunai he ran into.



well good thing its restricted right.



You need to know the definition of blitz my child because that by no means was a blitz the crow distracted Sasuke and Itachi appeared out of no where to surprise him. Based on what is Minato faster than Madara?

Contract seal nullifies a contract between the summon and summoner. So Sasuke's snakes won't be staying long, so no it's not useless. Snakes are a non factor here. Also Jiraya was using the amphibian technique to summon the elder toads onto his body, that's why he took long. Summoning then normally is the same as the normal way. Shima summoned Naruto, Fukasaku, Bunta, Ken and Hiro with ease. A contract with Bunta is a contract with all toads, kishi interview and databook already confirmed this.

Of course Minato has the reserves. He summoned Bunta, teleported a massive tailed beast bomb and then teleported Kurama's entire body away. FTG is restricted here, so take away the chakra minato wasted on the tbb, then take away the chakra minato wasted teleporting kurama away. Now see how much chakra he'd have left over to summon more giant toads? Then take away the number of times he used regular FTG, which was about 10 times that night. So with FTG restricted, and having no need to teleport large objects, minato is free to summon multiple boss toads. "You cannot use senjutsu unless you already have enormous chakra inside you" -Fukasaku. Minato is a sage, his chakra is enormous.

Genjutsu on toads = non factor. Contract seal again nullifies that.

Yes I will compare Ay and Minatos foot speed becuase the databook says they're equal. So your option means jack squat. And I'm getting nothing twisted, minato beat Obito while under harsh conditions without Intel. While Obito had the prep time, advantage, Intel and nothing to lose or worry about. If minato and Obito faced 1 v 1 no distractions with the same amount of Intel as each other, minato would have stomped him in half the time compared to be for. You don't get it twisted, minato craps on obito.

You ask based on what that minato is faster than Madara Lol. Madara called Tobirama the fastest ninja of their era. Tobirama down right said minato was even faster than him. So of course minato is much faster than Madara.

 

[Dantee]

^. since when does contract seal nulliffy genjutsu. what is this fanfic rofl. Only certain ppl can fight Uchia without making eye contact. I.e people like guy and sensors. without ftg I'm afraid Minato can definitely get beaten by Hebi Sasuke but I wouldn't rule Minato out. It would probably be a high dif fight in Sasukes favor.

I'm going to ultimately say that Minatos speed won't be a factor here and any close range attacks get nullified by chidori nagashi. Sasukes CS2 state gives him an edge in close combat encounters as well. If Minato fans want to go by hype well Sasuke was the strongest person Bee fought.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Minato wins mid diff at the very most

 

[Sageflash]

Minato clowns on him low diff.