do you think apple and google deriberately sabotage thier old devices?

[legarcon]

Last night i was reading an articule online about apple using programmed obselence in their devices , the term of programmed obselence means that the objects already have an expiration date like phones an example would be: let's say you buy the new iphone but after a certain amount of time the iphone stops working properly so that encorages you to buy the newer version of the iphone, basically programmed obsolence is said to be used by companies like apple or other with the goal of keeping the people consuming their products.

Now let me explain my own experience with apple, a few years back i had an iphone 4, by that time the iphone 5 had just come out and when the iphone 5 came out so did the new software update ios 7, so i decided i would update my iphone 4 with the ios 7 and i when i did, my iphone outright stopped working, it didnt get sluggish or so, it got totally ruined, i couldnt even turn on the iphone anymore the only thing i could do was to put it in DFU mode and try to restore it but it always gave me a error message. So i decided to take it to an expert to fix it, then they couldnt do it, so i took the iphone to like 6 or 7 different places and they all told me my iphone was nothing more than a fancy brick after that i gave up.

Granted the new software updates are supposed to be aimed for the newer models like the iphone 5 at the time and older models may not run it as well as the newer ones, but why then if apple knew the software update may not work or ruin an older device, why itunes suggests you that you update the software knowing that it may ruin the device? after all itunes knows you have an iphone 4, it appears on screen "iphone 4" everytime you plugg your iphone to itunes and itunes anyway prompts you to update , also, why itunes doesnt give you any warnings like: this update may damage devices like iphones 4s or older? it wouldnt take more than 2 lines to give you a warning about it.
Also if they're not doing this on purpose then, why once you update the software you can no longer downgrade it to the older version if the newer one is not working.

After a little research i made i found out i wasnt the only one who got my iphone ruined with the new update. That's what makes me suspicious about companies like apple building their devices with programmed obsolence or that they sabotage their older devices with software updates so that once is ruined you buy the newer model. After all, this could have been avoided by putting a simple warning when you try to update, then if you update your device in spite of the warning is at your own risk, but they didnt.

Even though i have no proves that they're doing it on purpuse i find it kind of suspicios , that's why i no longer consume any apple products and never undate the software of my devices like my cellphone, computer as long as the apps i like to use still work. Also somene gave me an advice if a new iphone just came out and you have an older iphone version and want to update the software to the new one that came along with the new iphone, it isnt problably a good idea to do it.

If we no longer keep playing their game they'll eventually stop, sometimes i see people with new and expensive phones and they barely make ends meet but they have the new iphone or new samdung galaxy and they make you wonder if having a cellphone for them is more important than eating. Let us try not to fall in their games after all your pocket and the planet will thank you for that because you will be making less garbage therefore less polution.

What are you thoughts on this?

share your experince

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I thought most technology wasn't made to last these days for that purpose. Even if they don't stop working the companies won't support/update their older products forcing you to buy a new one.

 

[Yanks]

iPhone 4 isn't compatible with ios7, just like how iPhone 4s isn't compatible with ios8 - That's why it stopped working, most likely.

 

[BlacLord™]

Apple obsolescence is a debunked conspiracy. It all boils down to newer versions of iOS being more demanding on hardware when compared to predecessors and Apple has a reputation of actually doing the opposite of what that conspiracy suggested, by scraping the barrel when it comes to giving older devices newer OSs in a last ditch to keep them relevant and thereby giving them a somewhat heightened presence on the overall market.

In the end though, it results in a device running an OS that's not fully compatible.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

No you're not bullshitting at all.

I have iPads, iPhones, iPods, and after a while the system gets slow and stops updating. It's usually after one or more new devices are released.

Granted all things on this planet fall apart at some point, I'd have a perfectly fine device that would only start acting buggy before the release of a new one. I don't know how they do it but it's definitely been a constant thing throughout the years.

 

[legarcon]

iPhone 4 isn't compatible with ios7, just like how iPhone 4s isn't compatible with ios8 - That's why it stopped working, most likely.

though they should have warned about it when it came out, when i plugged my iphone 4 to itunes, itunes prompted me to update even though i ruined my iphone

 

[Wabbit]

Google does not sell phones. Android is open source so they cant do such thing. Also os updates are given by manufacturers not by google except for few. iOS is proprietary they can do whatever they want. You must eat what they feed.
Your problem is the hardware. The newer OSes and apps require more hardware resources so your phone becomes laggy. That is common to all the phones which has low specs. If you own a single core device with 512mb RAM don't expect anything to be smooth.

 

[legarcon]

Google does not sell phones. Android is open source so they cant do such thing. Also os updates are given by manufacturers not by google except for few. iOS is proprietary they can do whatever they want. You must eat what they feed.
Your problem is the hardware. The newer OSes and apps require more hardware resources so your phone becomes laggy. That is common to all the phones which has low specs. If you own a single core device with 512mb RAM don't expect anything to be smooth.

Yes i know that, the current software updates are desinged for the newest devices, but my point is that even though they know their new software may not work properly in older devices, they still make it available to those devices without any kind of warnings, if they know and i bet they do know the software might make the device sluggish or damage the phone, they shouldnt let such devices to update or at the very least a proper warning before updating and if you decide to upgrade the software that would be at your own risk.

My main complain here is the lack of warnings even though they know what might happen, also the fact that itunes doesnt allow you to go back to the old software adds even more to my suspicious, the user should be free to go back to the version of the software which worked the best for him but itunes doesnt allow you to do it.

 

[Wabbit]

Yes i know that, the current software updates are desinged for the newest devices, but my point is that even though they know their new software may not work properly in older devices, they still make it available to those devices without any kind of warnings, if they know and i bet they do know the software might make the device sluggish or damage the phone, they shouldnt let such devices to update or at the very least a proper warning before updating and if you decide to upgrade the software that would be at your own risk.

My main complain here is the lack of warnings even though they know what might happen, also the fact that itunes doesnt allow you to go back to the old software adds even more to my suspicious, the user should be free to go back to the version of the software which worked the best for him but itunes doesnt allow you to do it.

Since the device is older the manufacturer does care about issues on it, they might not even mind to test on it,to know there is a problem. Since it is proprietary even though the larger user base others cant look into it to fix the problems. You get stuck.

 

[Xlad]

My iPod tends to crash when I use browsers like Safari. Often times, I have to restart the damn thing and clear up data in the process. It also seems to me that its still stuck at iOS 6.1.6. I can't even update it up to iOS 7.

So I get you mean. It isn't surprising since things don't last forever. That's pretty much how it is.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

I updated my ipad 2 to IOS 7, very sluggish and laggy, and prone to constant freezes, I don't really like apple due to their shitty UI and terrible OS memory managment. That's one thing I'll give MS credit for, Windows 8 can be ran easily without hassle on old school Intel pentium D e5200's.

 

[BlacLord™]

My iPod tends to crash when I use browsers like Safari. Often times, I have to restart the damn thing and clear up data in the process. It also seems to me that its still stuck at iOS 6.1.6. I can't even update it up to iOS 7.

So I get you mean. It isn't surprising since things don't last forever. That's pretty much how it is.

4G? Yeah, 6.1.6 was the cap since iOS 7 requires 512mb of RAM where the device only has 256mb. That's an especially good example of Apple scraping the barrel because iOS 6 was just too much for the 4G. There are ways of creating virtual memory though.

 

[Xlad]

4G? Yeah, 6.1.6 was the cap since iOS 7 requires 512mb of RAM where the device only has 256mb. That's an especially good example of Apple scraping the barrel because iOS 6 was just too much for the 4G. There are ways of creating virtual memory though.

I didn't get a note. Lol Anyways, thanks for the clarification. It would seem to be the case now that I looked it up.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

I noticed it happens to all "old" smartphones.
My fiancée has an (not really) older model android smart phone and she got it around the time I bought the release of the iPhone 5.
Now her phone would crash,freeze, etc. Sometimes not picking up wifi as well.


While my iPhone isn't having any issues so far.