[Discussion] Why is Sasuke vs Naruto debated?

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Lol unless I have proof?? Just look at what the rinnegan offers.. Jutsu that allow Sasuke to counters Naruto arsenal.. That's proof right there lol..

kurama's chakra means more chakra, is that not stronger.. Still makes little difference since Sasuke is losing in that department to begin with.
Did you just say the other half of kurama does not make his chakra more stronger? Oh lord .....
Lol, really now? You've pretty much ended the argument right here. VoTE Naruto>VoTE Sasuke as Sasuke needed the Bijuu to match Naruto. Unless you have proof Rinnegan mastery closes the gap, there is nothing to talk about.

Not to mention getting half of Kurama's power means Kurama gets 2x stronger than before.
Bruh read above :leaf:
 

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You stated the answer yourself. "Naruto was stronger at VOTE2"
Full Kurama x2 everything Naruto has, Rinnegna mastery isn't helping Sasuke beat Naruto, none at all.

The only USEFUL technique he has is chakra absorption, yet he can't even absorb full scale attacks as no Rinnegan user in the manga as shown the ability to do so. The databook states "it absorbs all ninjutsu" --Meaning it absorb all forms of ninjutsu. Yet the DB uses hyperbole's anyway. Rinnnegan Madara couldn't even absorb Yoton:Rasengan.

Naruto tanks, obliterates, sits on, and destroys.

Yea... Not in the mood to change your opinion...
 

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What part sounds like a joke to you? Everything I said is true.. Others opinions are just that.
I think Sasuke fans fail to realize something..... they claim Sasuke improves over the time..
But Naruto does too, and much faster, do realize RSM grants extreme learning capabilities.

It's said to grant great knowledge with haste.
 
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Lol unless I have proof?? Just look at what the rinnegan offers.. Jutsu that allow Sasuke to counters Naruto arsenal.. That's proof right there lol..
Except that isn't proof. So I'll just take this as "I have no proof". Concession? Accepted.

kurama's chakra means more chakra, is that not stronger.. Still makes little difference since Sasuke is losing in that department to begin with.
Kurama's size was cut in half at least after losing said chakra, so no, it's not just chakra amount, it's overall power was affected, unless you want to argue that Full Kurama (2x bigger than regular Kurama)=Regular Kurama in strength.
 

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I see your point but VoTE2 RSM naruto is his strongest form. As to where the last sasuke or adult sasuke beats him low-mid diff.
That doesn't make any sense. Take it from me as a devout Sasuke fan who loves Sasuke for his character and his power.

Naruto is more powerful post VoTE. All bias aside.

All you have to do is look at it completely objectively to understand the power difference.

Naruto had Half Kurama at the VoTE whereas Sasuke had the Bijuu's and his Rin'negan. They stalemated.

Naruto lost nothing and gained Full Kurama (giving him the ability to take in more nature energy should he wish on top of many other things) whereas Sasuke lost the Bijuu's and access to his Bijuu Susano'o but presumably gained a mastered Rin'negan.

Nothing in the Rin'negan's arsenal can match the durability given by a larger, stronger Full Kurama Ashura Avatar that Naruto has and Sasuke's full power just like Madara will always be his PS in any form since that's the only technique that can go toe to toe with his avatar.

Even if Sasuke had his Bijuu PS and Indra's Arrow, now that Naruto has full Kurama, he has enough chakra to completely overpower Indra's arrow by virtue of Kurama having more chakra and taking in more nature energy than the final VoTE fight.

This isn't even accounting for master of the Bijuu's chakra, TSB's, Onmyoudon and mastery of Yin-Yang release (CoAT) that he showed when he created Kakashi a new eye.

It's the same concept as Madara vs Hashirama.

Without Bijuu's involved, Hashirama takes it no more than mid difficulty. With Bijuu's involved on the eye's side, it goes to extreme difficulty.
 

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Except that isn't proof. So I'll just take this as "I have no proof". Concession? Accepted.



Kurama's size was cut in half at least after losing said chakra, so no, it's not just chakra amount, it's overall power was affected, unless you want to argue that Full Kurama (2x bigger than regular Kurama)=Regular Kurama in strength.
Proof? Being able to summon Gedo Mazo is not a game changer lol..
 

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Lol he one shooted a ****ing tree lol. Once Mazo but the chain on its neck it's game over.
He one shotted the same tree Sasuke couldn't though.:coffee:
Also wasn't Choji soloing the Mazo? How strong do you think it is exactly?
Also without beast chakra the Mazo is fodderized.
 

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Lol he one shooted a ****ing tree lol. Once Mazo but the chain on its neck it's game over.
And that's touching Naruto... how?

Fastest Shunshin in the entire manga bar none (blitzed the person with the greatest reaction time in the manga in Kaguya). Not to mention the Mazou needs Sasuke to control it and move the chains. If Naruto isn't using his avatar, it isn't doing anything. Naruto can still completely nuke it with multiple Rasenshuriken or Bijuudama since Sasuke isn't absorbing all of that.
 

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And that's touching Naruto... how?

Fastest Shunshin in the entire manga bar none (blitzed the person with the greatest reaction time in the manga in Kaguya). Not to mention the Mazou needs Sasuke to control it and move the chains. If Naruto isn't using his avatar, it isn't doing anything. Naruto can still completely nuke it with multiple Rasenshuriken or Bijuudama since Sasuke isn't absorbing all of that.
The same way it touch him last time lol... Like I said we all have our opinions, just remember it's just that..
 
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