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I already told you that Sasuke was redeemed myself. But he has not shown how much he has been redeemed. I am sorry but unlike you I don't go off one word and pretend to know how he is without seeing any context.

I am not pretending to know anything, I am just taking the ending for what it is and not trying to say Sasuke is still a complete a**hole. =D

Like I said before it is not that complicating to understand. Sasuke was redeemed but to what extent no one knows? So not sure why are you stuck with that one word when we agree to it?

I am not stuck on any word, what you are saying now is ok. The issue is with people saying he still acts like an a**hole.

I actually agree it is not that complicated, you are making it more complicated. To me the manga shows Sasuke is redeemed so that's it, like Gaara now that he is redeemed he will be good.

You are saying that's not enough, you need to see more otherwise you think he would still act like a prick, who is making things complicated?
 
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Exactly.Lol

To put it simply,as we in the Anti SS say it took 700 chapters for Sasuke to poke Sakura.How many did it take to marry her? Lol

Lmao! Lol

Afraid no prolly.Its just Bolt and Sasuke.And a recent post on NF is saying Sasuke is hardly going to be near his daughter which indirectly means Sakura too

The only SS is in the novel

That would be another failure on Kishi's part.

Can you show me the source? Where did they get that info from?
 

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I am not pretending to know anything, I am just taking the ending for what it is and not trying to say Sasuke is still a complete a**hole. =D

You can't prove he is not just like I can't prove he is.

I am not stuck on any word, what you are saying now is ok. The issue is with people saying he still acts like an a**hole.

I actually agree that that it is not that complicated, you are making it more complicated. To me the manga shows Sasuke is redeemed so that's it, like Gaara now that he is redeemed he will be good.

You are saying that's not enough, you need to see more otherwise you think he would still act like a prick, who is making things complicated?

The manga only says he is redeemed. It does not show it. Don't get that stuff mixed up. I can think how ever I want of him since the manga never showed it otherwise.

Like I said before it is all speculation on how he will act because no one knows how he will act till Kishi shows it. Just because you think he won't be a ass does not mean another has to think the same way. When you got no proof claiming your point. Not sure why are you acting like it should be expected?
 

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No, it's not only Boruto movie...

Anime will continue for years most likely, since it's too much of a money maker, and at this point for Kishimoto is most of anime canon.

Remember that manga itself isn't written only by him, and there were things in anime like Utakata meeting Naruto before they met in that dimension with Jinchuriki and Biju.

Thats not canon.If you intend on those standards then why not just regard all the novels canon since they justify SS anyway Lol
 

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You can't prove he is not just like I can't prove he is.



The manga only says he is redeemed. It does not show it. Don't get that stuff mixed up. I can think how ever I want of him since the manga never showed it otherwise.

Like I said before it is all speculation on how he will act because no one knows how he will act till Kishi shows it. Just because you think he won't be a ass does not mean another has to think the same way. When you got no proof claiming your point. Not sure why are you acting like it should be expected?

It is expected though, just like how Gaara and Neji won't act like asses, now Sasuke also won't act like an ass.

You say you want to see more, just like with Gaara and Neji, well the manga is over so we can't see more.

Thats not canon.If you intend on those standards then why not just regard all the novels canon since they justify SS anyway Lol

Because the novels are canon unlike anime fillers. =D
 

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It is expected though, just like how Gaara and Neji won't act like asses, now Sasuke also won't act like an ass.

You say you want to see more, just like with Gaara and Neji, well the manga is over so we can't see more.

Gaara and Neji are not Sasuke.
 

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Afraid no prolly.Its just Bolt and Sasuke.And a recent post on NF is saying Sasuke is hardly going to be near his daughter which indirectly means Sakura too

The only SS is in the novel

Im so hoping they don't do that in Boruto's movie :| that will screw any chances for SS even with Sakura's novel.
 

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Gaara and Neji are not Sasuke.

I know that, what's your point?

My point is that Gaara and Neji were both asses till they were TnJed, Sasuke was an ass, he TnJed himself, he won't be an ass anymore just like Gaara and Neji, very simple.
 

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This Beatrix seems like someone who will never be able to find a boyfriend.

Now that is an unfair assumption.

:hint:
Did you stop to consider that I may in fact have a girlfriend? No?... The majority of people on these forums are so linear.

For the sake of (needless) clarification; I am a woman, I am bisexual and I have a wife.
 

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I've seen a girl say Sakura still loving Sasuke after everything is offensive to women, that's why I said that.

Ah. Well, offensive to some women. I don't get offended on behalf of my gender due to the actions of one fictional character. There's a lot to take into account, especially with manga - is cultural differences.

Not so much offended, more cringe inducing - she makes me cringe like no other character in Naruto, including the main baka himself.

I think Kishi wants to imply that Sasuke is the one who protects the village from the shadows, the Yin to Naruto's Yang, together they maintain the balance of peace like Naruto said after their fight, he needs him to maintain peace and that's probably what Sasuke is doing.

He loves his family but like Naruto he sacrifices some of his time to make sure the village is safe.

I really like that idea/concept.
It's something I've toyed with when discussing the similarities between Sasuke and Danzo. I always imagined he would be the Danzo to Naruto's Hizuren, if you get my meaning.

But then... wouldn't Sasuke hold bitterness (still) for Konoha, the place of his Clan's demise on the village's orders. Lot of bad memories, surely?
Or do you believe he has, by this point where Salad is in school, overcome those issues completely?



I completely agree we are allowed to have our own ideas and we are free to discuss. However what you are doing is assuming the worst of a character who was shown to better himself and be redeemed by the end.

True, true. I always assume the worst where Sasuke and Sakura are concerned, the latter especially so. It's come to be expected. So if I expect the worst and something decent happens... I'll have a nice surprise lol
 

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I really like that idea/concept.
It's something I've toyed with when discussing the similarities between Sasuke and Danzo. I always imagined he would be the Danzo to Naruto's Hizuren, if you get my meaning.

But then... wouldn't Sasuke hold bitterness (still) for Konoha, the place of his Clan's demise on the village's orders. Lot of bad memories, surely?
Or do you believe he has, by this point where Salad is in school, overcome those issues completely?

I believe through all of Sasuke's experiences, including his interactions with Naruto, Hashirama, and Itachi, he holds a very good understanding of what it means to be a shinobi (the ones who endure), the true meaning of Hokage, and how to maintain peace.

He is mature enough to not let the mistakes of people of the past affect his behavior towards the people of the present and the future, instead the order is now in his and Naruto's hands and he has a responsibility to fulfill.

As for his feelings in seeing the place of his clan's demise, what can I say, I personally think that Sasuke never got the apology he deserved for his family's murder and it was unfair how he was just treated like a criminal, but I guess he managed to find the "hope" from his mother, father, and brother, to start his own family and slowly rekindle the flames of his clan. That's why I think he is a great character after the finale.

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True, true. I always assume the worst where Sasuke and Sakura are concerned, the latter especially so. It's come to be expected. So if I expect the worst and something decent happens... I'll have a nice surprise lol

lol, fair enough.
 

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I know that, what's your point?

My point is that Gaara and Neji were both asses till they were TnJed, Sasuke was an ass, he TnJed himself, he won't be an ass anymore just like Gaara and Neji, very simple.

Gaara and Neji showed that turn in the manga. Sasuke has not.
 

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Gaara and Neji showed that turn in the manga. Sasuke has not.

Gaara and Neji turned early on in the manga, Sasuke turned at the very end.

All evidence suggests that in Naruto TnJed people immediately become not asses, Sasuke is not an exception.
 

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Gaara and Neji turned early on in the manga, Sasuke turned at the very end.

All evidence suggests that in Naruto TnJed people immediately become not asses, Sasuke is not an exception.

I am sorry but as long as Sasuke has a ass he is a ass. He needs to chidori Sakura to not have one. Lol
 

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Gaara showed his new self and Sasuke didn't. #MangaFact

Meaning anyone can think how ever they want of him till Kishi shows us otherwise. Yes Sasuke got redeemed, that is obvious. But to what extent did he get redeemed? No one knows that because Kishi never showed it. That is why it is natural for anyone to have mixed opinions about him. And I don't blame the poster of thinking of it negatively because of that.

Sure why not? Add a Susanoo in it to make it more scary. Sasuke could easily revive his wife multiple ways. Than do it again later so we haters get what we want. Because Sasuke is my friend not my enemy. He is a redeemed character.



Yeah, because that's how Kishi would end his story right? Seems legit.


Kishi decided to skip their development because he thought his fans could see what he was hinting at. Themes of forgiveness, redemption, and atonement.


Sasuke is a person for whom family bonds mean everything. Aside from his brief bout with murderous madness in Kage Summit when he was in his lowest point. Sasuke has never been violent. He wouldn't even kill opponents during Orochimaru's training or allow Hebi to do.
While persons like Gaara was much more worse and only killed for fun.

Sasuke sincerely apologize to Sakura when she was healing him. You don't apologize to someone you don't care about. If her opinion of him didn't matter to him he wouldn't have bothered apologizing. You apologize for other people and not for yourself. You forgive for yourself and not for other people.



Sasuke’s last seen meaningful interaction with a female was him poking Sakura on the head. The most important gesture for Sasuke.
Even neutrals old japanese can totally call it the ‘most affectionate gesture’ from sasuke during the entire manga then you have no excuse for being stupid.

At the end Sasuke still wants to do a redemption Journey alone to help the world and redeem himself.

The last chapter of the manga is totally dedicated to Sasuke. Sasuke's speech in 698-699 showed his true feelings and that he left his darkness behind and is prepared to cherish his bonds. You can clearly see a new one changed Sasuke in 699 especially towards Sakura.

I mean It's not Hard to Grasp that Post War sasuke is already a different person and kind towards Sakura. Still had a huge time skip with 10 years. Sasuke had this whole time to change even more especially after his redemption journey


The new family he made with sakura is the ultimate proof.


Sakura is alive very happy and fine for an abused wife like in your fanfiction and their daughter call Sasuke: "Papa" apparently Japanese children call his mom and dad by "mama" and "papa", only if they have close relationship with them.
Sarada never will call sasuke “papa” and will hate him if he did something bad to her mama...
 
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1: Anything with Sakura in isn't the best in NV

2: The family looks like their on the run because Sasky went emo again

3: You're assuming Sasuke actually spends time with his family :leaf:
 
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