Madara needed a lot to match Hashirama.

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Madara had to:

-Pull a surarez
-Get beat by Hashirama
-Revive himself
-Sit in a cave
-Gain Rinnegan
-Die again
-Get Edo'd past his prime
-Get a face pec


just to beat a guy who probably reached his peak in power ages ago.

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I mean his final fight would have been one-sided if Kurama wasn't there:

Madara's riding a giant susanoo fox talking about how much of a boss he is:
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Hashirama 1-up's him
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Then proceeds to pick up Kurama and lay him down for a nap.
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Finally ending with a bunshin feint.
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All in a day's work for Hashirama.
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Note: Not a bash thread since he solo'd my fav.

Just stating facts
 
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Hashirama is bless with Great KKG and no need to get this and that while Madara is not, Good for him tho.

But I do think in one to one combat without OP jutsu, VOTE Madara can match Hashirama and win
 

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All he had to was:

1. gain rinnegan by implanting hashirama cells within himself

Which doesn't sound like much sorry...

Hashirama is bless with Great KKG and no need to get this and that while Madara is not, Good for him tho.

But I do think in one to one combat without OP jutsu, VOTE Madara can match Hashirama and win

No, the reason hashirama edged him out a lot was because of their chakra reserves...hashirama had more so he could just about outlast him. They both had the same destructive capabilities though. Rinnegan madara was way too OP too
 

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Soon as Hashirama went Sage Mode, that match was over.
 

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Yup. In the end Madara only surpassed Hashirama with Rikudo chakra he obtained by stealing Hashirama's DNA
 

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Whats wrong with that though? He worked to achieve power in order to accomplish his goals.
 

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All he had to was:

1. gain rinnegan by implanting hashirama cells within himself

Which doesn't sound like much sorry...



No, the reason hashirama edged him out a lot was because of their chakra reserves...hashirama had more so he could just about outlast him. They both had the same destructive capabilities though. Rinnegan madara was way too OP too


so you are saying unlocking the strongest doujutsu is not much? hmmm ok. i think you are being bias. he did have to die, revive himself, and anchor himself to hashirama's cells to stay alive long enough to unlock it. he went thought alot to get the rinnegan. that was not an easy feat.
 

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Whats wrong with that though? He worked to achieve power in order to accomplish his goals.

Well, most of the power he gained was through usurpation. That's why he ended up the way he did.

Not saying it's wrong since I doubt he even expected to cross paths with Hashirama.
 

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Hashirama is bless with Great KKG and no need to get this and that while Madara is not, Good for him tho.

But I do think in one to one combat without OP jutsu, VOTE Madara can match Hashirama and win

sorry to break it down for you... but

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this is a KKG.
 

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Doesn't change the fact that madara>hasirama

and actually hashi was trolled with izanagi at the valley
 

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sorry to break it down for you... but

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this is a KKG.

I meant Mokuton KKG is more powerful and versatile than EMS power (Genjutsu and Susanoo(PS) for Madara)

Shinsuusenju trump PS in power



Look at other Mokuton arsenal.

-Flower Tree world
-Mokujin
-Wood Dragon
-Myojinmon
-Mokuton Gobi no Jutsu

Etc

Compared that to Madara EMS KKG Arsenal.

Even in 4th War Arc, Mokujin stalemating PS

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Hashi is a legend. But he is a boring legend though sadly. Kishi never bothered to make him interesting.
 
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I meant Mokuton KKG is more powerful and versatile than EMS power (Genjutsu and Susanoo(PS) for Madara)

Shinsuusenju trump PS in power



Look at other Mokuton arsenal.

-Flower Tree world
-Mokujin
-Wood Dragon
-Myojinmon
-Mokuton Gobi no Jutsu

Etc

Compared that to Madara EMS KKG Arsenal.

Even in 4th War Arc, Mokujin stalemating PS

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i know, i know... you made it sound like Madara have no KKG at all :)
 

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Hashi is a legend. But he is a boring legend though sadly. Kishi never bothered to make him interesting.

Because he has a hard on for Uchihas.He already said i an interview he doesnt know who will play the role of "The sulk" in Part 3

@OP Who is your fav?
 
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Because he has a hard on for Uchihas.He already said i an interview he doesnt know who will play the role of "The sulk" in Part 3

@OP Who is your fav?

I think I can help

Below, taken from one thread

Laz's Fav and least Fav

Favorite Character: Naruto, Hinata, Hanabi, Minato
Favorite Summoning: Kamatari, Gamakichi, Kurama (When Naruto calls him, it's pretty damn epic)
Favorite Justu: 8-Trigrams 64 palms, Planetary Rasenan, Magma Rasenshuriken
Bijuu: Kurama, Shukaku


Least Favorite Character: Orochimaru
Least Favorite Summoning: That slug
Least Favorite Justu: Amaterasu, Edo Tensei
Least Favorite Bijuu: None
 
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