BM Minato vs SM Hashirama

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narutos bond was stronger Lol? Oh really.

Minato was sealed together with kurama for 17 years. Naruto was able to finally get along with kurama just that very day.

Keep going, this is amusing.


Lmao. Bonding with the person that sealed it in the belly of the Death God?

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Hiruzen already said those that cast RDS are sealed together with the victim suffering for all eternity. Yet you claim Minato and Kurama bonded? Hell you claimed Minato and Kurama bonded even stronger than he did with Naruto?

I agree keep going, this is amusing.
hashirama fusing with ss is pretty brainless on his part. He'll get blown up by a massive senpo bijuu dama. Or minato jsut teleports the entire structure away with hashirama in it.

Lol..... I can't take you seriously. This isn't BSM Minato. Minato can barely apply a small amount of senjutsu to a normal rasengan yet he'll create a senpo bijuudama?

being edo means nothing. The beast within him was alive, so depleting kuramas chakra is still the same as what would happen if minato was alive. when minato ran out of chakra, he was still able to maintain kcm. His first bm attempt he pulled off much easier than narutos as well.

The beast within him is not the point. Minato was an edo, edos have unlimited chakra, stamina, and don't suffer from physical drawbacks so you can't say being an edo means nothing.

An alive BM Minato should have the same restriction as BM Naruto did. You've given no proof otherwise except your own personal fanboying.
 
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Minato was an Edo you fool. In this scenario he is alive just like Naruto. Alive BM Minato never existed, but this is a hypothetical match-up so the rules of Naruto should apply to Minato in this scenario.

Unless you show me proof on why Alive BM Minato will be different from Alive BM Naruto.

I don't see how being alive changes things, they're not using their own chakra but Kurama's.
 

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I don't see how being alive changes things, they're not using their own chakra but Kurama's.

Yes, it’s Kurama’s chakra and we all know how enormous Kurama’s chakra is, so why did BM Naruto’s avatar have a time limit of 5 minutes?

Gonna need more than "it's Kurama's chakra". That doesn't prove anything at all.
 

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Yes, it’s Kurama’s chakra and we all know how enormous Kurama’s chakra is, so why did BM Naruto’s avatar have a time limit of 5 minutes?
Because his link is poor as kurama already stated. His second time doing it pushed it to 8 minutes. Did kurama gain more chakra for him to use? Nope. So why would the time limit go up?

Gonna need more than "it's Kurama's chakra". That doesn't prove anything at all.
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Because his link is poor as kurama already stated. His second time doing it pushed it to 8 minutes. Did kurama gain more chakra for him to use? Nope. So why would the time limit go up?

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Except Minato is not exactly experienced with Kurama avatar either. He has used once himself. Therefore, an alive BM Minato should have around 5-8 minutes himself. You and Gold Lightning are making it sound like he can stay in that mode as long as he needs to which is nothing but wank.
 

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Except Minato is not exactly experienced with Kurama avatar either.
baseless. Seeing as how he can use it from a lesser form.
He has used once himself.
yeah and unlike his son he dosen't/didn't revert back to base after use.
Therefore, an alive BM Minato should have around 5-8 minutes himself.
again you have 0 proof of this. Since how long it lasts isn't dependant on the chakra source. Proven by naruto changing time limit from 5 to 8.
You and Gold Lightning are making it sound like he can stay in that mode as long as he needs to which is nothing but wank.
quite the opposite. All I'm saying is that without proof of it being limited to 5 minutes you cannot claim it's limited to 5 minutes.

Good day.
 

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damn my disciple was going in

Hashirama loses without SS Stomps with it
 

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Tell me how having a huge structure changes the situation.

Minato simply ftgs away. ...... Hashirama using SS here is being an idiot.

Because minato literally has no means of combating it,

--His TBB are slapped back at his face by the hands of SS so there goes away every hopes of minato even scratching the structure and a long range fight is just worse for him due to this same reason

--if he comes close to it then he gets smashed down on the ground by Chojo kobetsu, he isn't evading hands that span multiple mountain ranges and travel the same speed as a PS -TBB

--he isn't dancing around either not when the onslaught of the battle would encompass his entire range of FTG

--him going on the defensive is also meaningless when. His avatar runs out and without that it's GG
 

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Hashi high diff
 

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That'd be a waste of chakra... Minato's fire power is nowhere near Kurama + PS, to bring out the SS.

Minato can produce at least 5 bijuudama's at once, how many hands does mokujin have? Hashi needs SS, otherwise he can't catch & redirect the tbbs being thrown his way.

& Minato has perfectly fine firepower, the only jutsu that hashi used which can tank a bijuudama is hobi but that was only one. A continuous barrage will break that defense.
 

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Minato can produce at least 5 bijuudama's at once, how many hands does mokujin have? Hashi needs SS, otherwise he can't catch & redirect the tbbs being thrown his way.

& Minato has perfectly fine firepower, the only jutsu that hashi used which can tank a bijuudama is hobi but that was only one. A continuous barrage will break that defense.

Agreed. That retard Variaboss should see this. Sigged me for saying the same thing, not realizing he's the one that looks stupid. Lol what a tard.
 

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Minato can produce at least 5 bijuudama's at once, how many hands does mokujin have? Hashi needs SS, otherwise he can't catch & redirect the tbbs being thrown his way.

& Minato has perfectly fine firepower, the only jutsu that hashi used which can tank a bijuudama is hobi but that was only one. A continuous barrage will break that defense.
Slap it away done. In fact he doesn't even need Mokujin, Wood clones + kouton would do fine, and trapped by Wood dragon, and then tries to escape.. and hit with the Gates.. once hit with the gates he can't escape, tries to ftg.. mayfly+ wood clone combo will keep a track of where he is .. so no problem. Hashirama's sensory pills that he can make wood clones into, will also keep a track of where he is.

Unless Hashirama somehow goes full retard, he'll do the SS... other than that, he has no need. Minato's firepower isn't even on the same scale as PS+Kurama's.. no clue why you think it is..

And let me know where he can produce 5 at once, unless you don't know what "once" means.




Because minato literally has no means of combating it,

--His TBB are slapped back at his face by the hands of SS so there goes away every hopes of minato even scratching the structure and a long range fight is just worse for him due to this same reason

--if he comes close to it then he gets smashed down on the ground by Chojo kobetsu, he isn't evading hands that span multiple mountain ranges and travel the same speed as a PS -TBB

--he isn't dancing around either not when the onslaught of the battle would encompass his entire range of FTG

--him going on the defensive is also meaningless when. His avatar runs out and without that it's GG
Nope, Minato simply waits it out.. SS against a S/T user who will be teleporting is useless.



Minato needs the firepower of PS+Kurama to make Hashirama bring out the buddha, other wise Hashirama isn't going to.

People are talking about TBBs.. Hashirama can simply go under Kurama's avtar and make it miss the target.. and so on.

Mayfly + wood clone = OP combo, with that he can also keep an eye on the entire battlefield, similar to how Zetsu did.
 
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Slap it away done.

As he slaps one 4 more are immediately following close behind, hell he might even slap one tbb into the others & thus having them explode in his face.

In fact he doesn't even need Mokujin, Wood clones + kouton would do fine,

Okay now you're starting to get into "ridiculous" territory, doesn't need mokujin? Are you serious? Wood clones get blown up, same goes for FTW. Not to mention all minato has to do is create a clone & mark a significant distance away from the battle, then hashi will never get the chance to land a finishing blow.

and trapped by Wood dragon,
Mokuryuu was shown to get ripped apart by a bijuudama, 5 rip through it or blow it apart as well.

and then tries to escape..

How? Minato moves much faster than hashi + he's a sensor, the blast radius of 5 bijuudamas is much too large for hashi to escape in time.

and hit with the Gates.. once hit with the gates he can't escape,
Gates are negated by reverting back to KCM mode, similar to how juubito escaped the gates by shrinking. [ ]

tries to ftg.. mayfly+ wood clone combo will keep a track of where he is .. so no problem.
Hashi has no mayfly feats that allow him to keep up with FTG, wood clones get blasted via tbbs, & the clone that minato prepped at the start of the match could be halfway across the country by now, he isn't keeping track that easily.

& To add minato is a great sensor himself, so unless hashi has some godly mayfly feats then he gets blasted as soon as he pokes his head up.

Hashirama's sensory pills that he can make wood clones into, will also keep a track of where he is.

Again tbb takes care of them.

Unless Hashirama somehow goes full retard, he'll do the SS... other than that, he has no need. Minato's firepower isn't even on the same scale as PS+Kurama's.. no clue why you think it is..

Without SS he gets overwhelmed by tbbs, the only thing he can do is either hobi/rashomon gates or hotei. Hobi/gates will eventually break, & hotei can't redirect them, so none of these techniques will work.

& Mokujin only has 1 or 2 hands so that won't help much either.

And let me know where he can produce 5 at once, unless you don't know what "once" means.

"At once" is obviously hyperbole because no bijuu can shoot more than one tbb simultaneously. However they can still be shot within such close proximity to eachother that they still explode as one due to being so close.

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Agreed. That retard Variaboss should see this. Sigged me for saying the same thing, not realizing he's the one that looks stupid. Lol what a tard.

Well yeah, it should be kinda obvious that SS is needed in order to compete with the amount of tbbs.
 

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Good luck bombing the guy who can control the entire battlefield and landscape and keep an eye out where things are happening and can do attacks from anywhere on that battlefield.. Good luck to you my man.

The Bijuu dama barrier things can pretty much tank the TBBs.. And if As I said, all Hashirama has to do is change the trajectory, by punching Kurama's avatar and so on.. not that hard for him to do.


Mayfly + Wood clone = Has eyes on the battlefield, can attack from anywhere in the battlefield, can put sensors on Minato for FTG counter ...

No clue how Hashirama even needs to confront the TBB.. but okkkk buddy.

PS: he can just create multiple hands frm the floor that size of Kurama to deal with those TBBs..
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base hashirama would win with low diff.

all of minatos bijudama are caught by generic mokuton hands.

if hashirama uses the mokujin the match ends nigh instantly.

all of minatos bijudama are flicked away considering the fact that the mokujin is as big as the juubi.
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only 100% kurama and above are big enough to force the mokujin to actually catch its standard bijudama.

the mokujin has strength that can match 100% kurama and PS. BM minato gets smacked across the battlefield with kurama being suppressed.

hashiramas speed and reactions are on par with madara whom can track ten tails obito with ease. the same obito that took off minatos arm before he could react. no blitz will occur and hashirama will easily beat minato in cqc with taijutsu in conjunction with mokuryu.
 

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what an idiot​

what you think doesnt even matter. the manga made it abundantly clear that hashirama is the strongest hokage. minato taking out asuras reincarnate is a complete joke factoring in feats and manga portrayal.
 

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what you think doesnt even matter. the manga made it abundantly clear that hashirama is the strongest hokage. minato taking out asuras reincarnate is a complete joke factoring in feats and manga portrayal.

or.. or.. you're an idiot​
 
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