BM Minato vs SM Hashirama

[Draphsin]

Hashi needs SS to do anything significant against minato.

 

[Conspirator.]

Minato wins since SS got restricted.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hashi needs SS to do anything significant against minato.

That'd be a waste of chakra... Minato's fire power is nowhere near Kurama + PS, to bring out the SS.

 

[Demonic.]

Unrestricted SS. It's a non factor, it can't even catch minato

Madara ran directly into it, instead of the opposite way. Minato doesn't have a susanoo covering his body, so he's not gonna stupidy charge at it.

Teleport that crap to the ocean, just like he did with the Juubi Bomb in base.

Doesn't need to catch him. Minato can't take it down before his 5 minutes of BM expire so he gets wasted. Matches don't start with prep.

Ot - Minato wins since SS is restricted.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Doesn't need to catch him. Minato can't take it down before his 5 minutes of BM expire so he gets wasted. Matches don't start with prep.

Ot - Minato wins since SS is restricted.

why would he need prep, when his kcm clone literally blitzes off to a far location to where a marking can be placed. The guy traveled countries away in like a single chapter using just shunshin in order to get from konoha to the battlefield. His kcm lol sprints miles away in no time at all and Sends that waste of space that you guys call SS off to fodder land.

minato has no confirmed time limit, so eat your 5 mins. The guy used kcm the all the way through arriving on the battlefield, all the way up to past the growth of the God tree. And even after the god tree sucked his bijuu chakra, he still had kcm intact. Meanwhile, naruto deactivated and lost his kcm several times, in the same period that minato still had his active. And the only reason minato's kcm was deactivated was because he gave the rest to naruto. So yeah, their kurama modes aren't even the same, their seals aren't even the same either, which also factors into their transformations.

 

[KingHashirama]

You're making it seem like minato has to bend over backwards to beat a wood clone.

I'm saying he won't know which one is real hashirama. Nor does he possess the experience of Madara to pose a challenge. Nor does he posses the fire power.

He simply possesses Kurama, and his brother's technique.. It is naive to assume that is a threat to Hashirama.

 

[Demonic.]

why would he need prep, when his kcm clone literally blitzes off to a far location to where a marking can be placed. The guy traveled countries away in like a single chapter using just shunshin in order to get from konoha to the battlefield. His kcm lol sprints miles away in no time at all and Sends that waste of space that you guys call SS off to fodder land.

minato has no confirmed time limit, so eat your 5 mins. The guy used kcm the all the way through arriving on the battlefield, all the way up to past the growth of the God tree. And even after the god tree sucked his bijuu chakra, he still had kcm intact. Meanwhile, naruto deactivated and lost his kcm several times, in the same period that minato still had his active. And the only reason minato's kcm was deactivated was because he gave the rest to naruto. So yeah, their kurama modes aren't even the same, their seals aren't even the same either, which also factors into their transformations.

What a fapboy. I guess we can't give Minato a TBB barrage since Minato's BM isn't the same as Naruto's and Minato never showed such a feat. If that's the case SS isn't even needed to combat Minato.

 

[Gold Lightning]

What a fapboy. I guess we can't give Minato a TBB barrage since Minato's BM isn't the same as Naruto's and Minato never showed such a feat. If that's the case SS isn't even needed to combat Minato.

keep crying.

why would minato even need to know how to use a tbb Lol, when they're kuramas techniques. kurama literally takes over and performs his techniques if minato was somehow miraculously unable to. Perk of being a perfect jin, the host and tailed beast can switch place.

stay mad. you have no argument for ss, it is literally dealt with in minatos sleep.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I'm saying he won't know which one is real hashirama.

Dosen't matter. Wood clones get delt with the same way hashirama would get del with if they were to ever go to cqc. With ease.

Nor does he possess the experience of Madara to pose a challenge.

since when was experience necessary to pose a challenge? What? Is that why onnoki and the Gokage got their assess handed to them?

Nor does he posses the fire power.

bijudama is more than enough.

He simply possesses Kurama, and his brother's technique.. It is naive to assume that is a threat to Hashirama.

it's naive to dismiss him when hashirama himself knows how powerful kurama and his brother's technique is. Only one living high and mighty is you.

What a fapboy. I guess we can't give Minato a TBB barrage since Minato's BM isn't the same as Naruto's and Minato never showed such a feat. If that's the case SS isn't even needed to combat Minato.

You're saying kurama can't use tailed beast barrage?

 

[Demonic.]

keep crying.

why would minato even need to know how to use a tbb Lol, when they're kuramas techniques. kurama literally takes over and performs his techniques if minato was somehow miraculously unable too. Perk of being a perfect jin, the host and tailed beast can switch place.

stay mad. you have no argument for ss, it is literally dealt with in minatos sleep.

Crying? I Lol'd. Naruto's BM has a 5 minute time limits, and you like the fapboy you are is trying to tell me that only applys to Naruto Lol. Why would that be the case when Naruto's bond with Kurama was stronger than Minato's?

Hashirama could merge with SS to prevent from being separated from it if he wanted to.

You're saying kurama can't use tailed beast barrage?

Read before you post. I'm telling the Minato fapboy it's obvious Minato can use it even though he never did it in the manga, just like it's obvious Minato's BM last about 5 minutes just like Naruto's.

Unless you're telling me you agree with the fapboy.

 

[KingHashirama]

Dosen't matter. Wood clones get delt with the same way hashirama would get del with if they were to ever go to cqc. With ease.

Nope. He can't do anything for a Mayfly + wood clone combo.
- Coming from the ground
- Attacking from the back
- Spamming forests

So yea buddy.

since when was experience necessary to pose a challenge? What? Is that why onnoki and the Gokage got their assess handed to them?

1 Issue Madara had more experience in Combat than them. He had faced a person far above their prowess on multiple occasions.. so yea buddy. Can't compare Madara's exp to Minato's at all.

bijudama is more than enough.

Not even gonna scratch Hashirama.. but ok.

it's naive to dismiss him when hashirama himself knows how powerful kurama and his brother's technique is. Only one living high and mighty is you.

Hashirama's brother wasn't considered on his level. EMS Madara wasn't considered on Hashirama's level.. even with his PS. Again not a threat to his power.. the guy was smiling while facing PS+Kurama..

Nobody is trying to live high and mighty.. unless you are?

Are you one of those who thinks BM Minato has a chance against Edo Madara?

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[ARGUS]

Minato wins this mid diff at most

No SS = GG Hashirama

 

[KingHashirama]

Minato wins this mid diff at most

No SS = GG Hashirama

Tell me how having a huge structure changes the situation.

Minato simply ftgs away. ...... Hashirama using SS here is being an idiot.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Nope. He can't do anything for a Mayfly + wood clone combo.

mayfly +wood clone only got the drop on a much slower tsunade. The likes of minato wouldn't be caught dead by such simple tactics. Mayfly's movements has already been noted to be slower than that of space/time techniques anyways.

- Coming from the ground

not working on minato.

- Attacking from the back

obito already tried that with the much faster kamui and still failed.

- Spamming forests

Scans of hashirama's wood clones doing such a thing.

So yea buddy.

no.

1 Issue Madara had more experience in Combat than them.

madara who has spent the greater part of his life in a cave has more combat experience than onnoki who's been in all 4 world wars? What?

He had faced a person far above their prowess on multiple occasions.. so yea buddy.

fighting ppl much stronger doesn't change combat experience. Kakashi already proved this against kaguya. Naruto and Sasuke were comparable to her in strength but was getting nowhere while Kakashi who wasn't turned the tides in 1 chapter due to his superior experience and gaining power comparable to hers. But that's not the point here, since where I stand experience dosen't matter.

Can't compare Madara's exp to Minato's at all.

above.

Not even gonna scratch Hashirama.. but ok.

it will when it's teleported directly to him.

Hashirama's brother wasn't considered on his level. EMS Madara wasn't considered on Hashirama's level.. even with his PS. Again not a threat to his power.. the guy was smiling while facing PS+Kurama..

yet hashirama knew kurama (alone mind you) was too powerful to be left alone. Yet minato and Tobirama is considered fastest of all time...
Hashirama gets the picture how comes you don't?

Nobody is trying to live high and mighty.. unless you are?

above

Are you one of those who thinks BM Minato has a chance against Edo Madara?

bm minato sits well above edo madara, since by his own admission his strongest ability only rivals a bijuu. Not even a Jinchuuriki let alone one as capable as minato.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Read before you post. I'm telling the Minato fapboy it's obvious Minato can use it even though he never did it in the manga, just like it's obvious Minato's BM last about 5 minutes just like Naruto's.

Unless you're telling me you agree with the fapboy.

proof that minato's last 5 minutes? That dosen't make sense whatsoever, since he's not using "bm" mode per say. So why would he be limited to bm mode's drawbacks?

 

[Demonic.]

proof that minato's last 5 minutes? That dosen't make sense whatsoever, since he's not using "bm" mode per say. So why would he be limited to bm mode's drawbacks?

Lol I guess I have to say everything. I'm obviously talking about the Kurama avatar. The only thing that poses a threat to SM Hashirama.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol I guess I have to say everything. I'm obviously talking about the Kurama avatar. The only thing that poses a threat to SM Hashirama.

Again. He's using the avatar from kcm mode. Not bm. Unlike naruto who can only do partial and full manifestation from bm he does it from kcm showing his superiority with the form. Unlike naruto who reverts back to base when bm is depleted, minato even when he says he's out of chakra, maintains kcm. So I ask again. Why would minato's "bm" mode last 5 minutes?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Crying? I Lol'd. Naruto's BM has a 5 minute time limits, and you like the fapboy you are is trying to tell me that only applys to Naruto Lol. Why would that be the case when Naruto's bond with Kurama was stronger than Minato's?

Hashirama could merge with SS to prevent from being separated from it if he wanted to.





Read before you post. I'm telling the Minato fapboy it's obvious Minato can use it even though he never did it in the manga, just like it's obvious Minato's BM last about 5 minutes just like Naruto's.

Unless you're telling me you agree with the fapboy.

narutos bond was stronger Lol? Oh really.

Minato was sealed together with kurama for 17 years. Naruto was able to finally get along with kurama just that very day.

Keep going, this is amusing.

hashirama fusing with ss is pretty brainless on his part. He'll get blown up by a massive senpo bijuu dama. Or minato jsut teleports the entire structure away with hashirama in it.

 

[Demonic.]

Again. He's using the avatar from kcm mode. Not bm. Unlike naruto who can only do partial and full manifestation from bm he does it from kcm showing his superiority with the form. Unlike naruto who reverts back to base when bm is depleted, minato even when he says he's out of chakra, maintains kcm. So I ask again. Why would minato's "bm" mode last 5 minutes?

Minato was an Edo you fool. In this scenario he is alive just like Naruto. Alive BM Minato never existed, but this is a hypothetical match-up so the rules of Naruto should apply to Minato in this scenario.

Unless you show me proof on why Alive BM Minato will be different from Alive BM Naruto.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato was an Edo you fool. In this scenario he is alive just like Naruto. Alive BM Minato never existed, but this is a hypothetical match-up so the rules of Naruto should apply to Minato in this scenario.

Unless you show me proof on why Alive BM Minato will be different from Alive BM Naruto.

being edo means nothing. The beast within him was alive, so depleting kuramas chakra is still the same as what would happen if minato was alive. when minato ran out of chakra, he was still able to maintain kcm. His first bm attempt he pulled off much easier than narutos as well.

Minato obviously obtained kcm while in the reaper stomach. 17 years they were together. narutos limitation feats don't apply to minato here. Especially when the sealing jutsu used for naruto and minato are completely different. Minato sealed his and kuramas souls together, while naruto 8 trigrams seal was uniquely constructed for naruto.