[Discussion] Existence of a God.

[ministerC4]

"count the numbers from smallest to the biggest " a question that has been asked in schools many times,besides addition is just a dorm Calculation that you used just to prove a piont,it doesn't always work that way....

2 humans cannot add up into a "god",neither does anything that we know about so far so........

Humans and Gods aren't a variation of each other.
While numbers are, 2 itself shifts to 3, or 1, and the case is usually improving into 3, decreasing into 1, or going to 3 for the worse, or 1 for the better, but nonetheless it shifts to the other.

Humans & God are nothing like numbers & other "greater" number.
Don't even try that analogy.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Humans and Gods aren't a variation of each other.
While numbers are, 2 itself shifts to 3, or 1, and the case is usually improving into 3, decreasing into 1, or going to 3 for the worse, or 1 for the better, but nonetheless it shifts to the other.

Humans & God are nothing like numbers & other "greater" number.
Don't even try that analogy.

Lol ok ,what do you believe that human are "variation " to? (act as if we're numbers)

 

[ministerC4]

Lol ok ,what do you believe that human are "variation " to? (act as if we're numbers)

Newborn, infant, toddler, kid, pre-teen, teen, young-adult, adult, middle aged, milf, old person.
Numbers aren't limited, humans are, God isn't.

 

[Aømine]

I don't believe in god/gods but what funny is seeing the atheists *****ing about the religious people trying to force their shit on them and yet doing the same in here with acting like their opinion =facts.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Newborn, infant, toddler, kid, pre-teen, teen, young-adult, adult, middle aged, milf, old person.
Numbers aren't limited, humans are, God isn't.

exactly as i expected your answer to be

and actually humans keep reproducing so.....

So now that you gave me an example a variation ,does that mean that if we divide/multiply/add/subtract any of these forms of the human we'll get a different type of a human(superior) ??(don't look at it the logical way)

Don't even bother answering the question cause whatever answer you givve me will still be wrong and honestly i myself don't know it so yeah,my main point is that noting is an absolute fact

 

[ministerC4]

exactly as i expected your answer to be

and actually humans keep reproducing so.....

So now that you gave me an example a variation ,does that mean that if we divide/multiply/add/subtract any of these forms of the human we'll get a different type of a human(superior) ??(don't look at it the logical way)

Don't even bother answering the question cause whatever answer you givve me will still be wrong and honestly i myself don't know it so yeah,my main point is that noting is an absolute fact

I noticed that already, but then you brought in along human variations, I started to question you at that point.

Anyways, pretty much anything is the answer for human variation, if I'm right, we can count the common ancestor's we share with other mammals as humans if we aren't being logical.
Such as a monkey is a variation of human, due to it simply being a branch of it.

If time is to be limitless, and human can progress, shouldn't they go through most stages of form?

 

[ministerC4]

I don't believe in god/gods but what funny is seeing the atheists *****ing about the religious people trying to force their shit on them and yet doing the same in here with acting like their opinion =facts.

That's general, and yeah, I agree, atheists are more inclined to shove their opinions on theists, rather than vice-versa.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I noticed that already, but then you brought in along human variations, I started to question you at that point.

Actually trying to prove that numbers aren't even slightly similar to the upper power (god) was your idea(you probably implied it)


but fair enough i guess,good to see some people thinking "differently":yeah:

 

[ministerC4]

Actually trying to prove that numbers aren't even slihlty similar to the upper power (god) was your idea(you probably implied it)


but fair enough i guess,good to see some people thinking "differently":yeah:

I edited that entire post you quoted, your post was vague to me as well.
The update(I didn't do it recently) might answer what you think I implied.

All I was saying is that your analogy between God and humans was nothing similar to numbers.
You're missing a chunk of ingredients that changes the recipe.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I edited that entire post you quoted, your post was vague to me as well.
The update(I didn't do it recently) might answer what you think I implied.

All I was saying is that your analogy between God and humans was nothing similar to numbers.
You're missing a chunk of ingredients that changes the recipe.

The similarity is actually there,if we're branch oof the monkeys as you said in your post then theoretically we're branch of god since he made us which means we're variations to god...........

 

[ministerC4]

The similarity is actually there,if we're branch oof the monkeys as you said in your post then theoretically we're branch of god since he made us which means we're variations to god...........

A telephone isn't a variation of human.
Nor is creampie.

Before you say they are lifeless, keep in mind we have limited lives while God has forever.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

A telephone isn't a variation of human.
Nor is creampie.

Before you say they are lifeless, keep in mind we have limited lives while God has forever.

"if time is to be limitless" you said what if it was ,if time wouldn't exist our lifes wouldn't had any limits(ta least not naturally limited)

also telephone is kinda also similar to us since our braains send signals to our bodies to move which what telephone basically does,...........

 

[roggeroo]

Ah the good old thousand years debate!

Hmm I believe Mypower answered his own question in his original post:

The concept of God has never been proven with proof. It's a belief. Belief - confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof:faith.

You're right: 'belief' and 'faith'. It has nothing to do with 'proof'. Proof is irrelevant. This isn't a science experiment nor a court of law. If a person has belief and faith - they don't need to prove anything.

Why not ask: why do people believe in aliens, when there is no proof? Why Ancient Alien Theory, when that's all based on pseudo-history? Why Scientology, when that's based on science-fiction? Why Mormonism, when that's based on one man's words? There are many people in the world whom all follow those beliefs, and those are all relativity 'modern' religions. Any proof for those?

People want to, or like to feel, part of a group. Whether that's Christian; Hindu; Buddhist; Atheist; Manchester United; Star Wars; Star Trek. For a lot of people they identify with that group more than others out of reasons related to culture, or family tradition. For those types of people it gives them comfort.

For most the obvious reason is spiritual. And a desire that their spirit will live on after death, in some form, whatever that may be. I guess for many people they don't want to feel that their lives are insignificant - like this thread or reply. After all, despite no proof the idea of a god(s) or something more has existed for many thousands of years and will continue in to the future too.

A lot of it is rational and psychology.

I saw this great video recently which isn't about religion but brings up that our motivation affects the way we see reality, despite proof. The video is actually about exploring the idea of dishonesty in society and how our rational makes dishonest people feel like they are doing good things. It does touch on religion and an interesting theory on how the Catholic religion uses the confession box to give people a chance to feel good about themselves by admitting, or confessing, their wrong doings... until they do something bad again. Here's a link, if anyone is interested:
[video=youtube;XBmJay_qdNc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmJay_qdNc[/video]

 

[ministerC4]

"if time is to be limitless" you said what if it was ,if time wouldn't exist our lifes wouldn't had any limits(ta least not naturally limited)

also telephone is kinda also similar to us since our braains send signals to our bodies to move which what telephone basically does,...........

Damn, you really trying to trash logic.
And yeah, I saw that dirty transition you did, are you aware I read and not listen?

 

[Cornson]

your not going to sit here and tell me what i believe, just because i deny the existence of a Christian, Jewish or Muslim god does not make me an atheist. You have no idea what my belief structure is.

how about you tell us what you believe then?

led me ask you a simple question, it is in no way a trick question btw, all you need to do is answer it honestly.

Do you believe in the existence of atleast 1 of the Gods you have been told about?

Lmao I never claimed to be an atheist though so just stahp please stahp and "Agnostic" is the only way to define my personal beliefs, Just because one does not believe in a god it does not mean they cant believe in energy and spirits. I like how you think you know what i feel in regards to other humans, please tell me more about my self i dont know :heh:

your belief in energy or spirits is totally ireleven in regards to your belief or lack there of in a god/whenever or not you are a atheist or a theist.

if you don't believe in the existence of any god or gods, your an atheist.

if you do believe in the existence of atleast one god, your a theist.

the label atheist/theist just describes if you believe of don't believe in atleast 1 god, it's nothing more and nothing less.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

how about you tell us what you believe then?

led me ask you a simple question, it is in no way a trick question btw, all you need to do is answer it honestly.

Do you believe in the existence of atleast 1 of the Gods you have been told about?



your belief in energy or spirits is totally ireleven in regards to your belief or lack there of in a god/whenever or not you are a atheist or a theist.

if you don't believe in the existence of any god or gods, your an atheist.

if you do believe in the existence of atleast one god, your a theist.

the label atheist/theist just describes if you believe of don't believe in atleast 1 god, it's nothing more and nothing less.

Not at all, I can believe in energy and spirits and not a God. Have you ever seen a ghost?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Not at all, I can believe in energy and spirits and not a God. Have you ever seen a ghost?

I just want to ask you, why you afraid to believe in existance of God? Just curious.

 

[Imperial]

I just want to ask you, why you afraid to believe in existance of God? Just curious.

Not to sound crude, but depending on your definition of God; you should be.​

 

[Cornson]

Not at all, I can believe in energy and spirits and not a God. Have you ever seen a ghost?

I never said you could or could not believe in "energy or spirits" all i said was that it was abselutely irelevant to you being a atheist or a theist.

and no to my knowledge, I have never seen a ghost, nor do i believe they exist.

 

[commaweed]

What are you trying to say ?

History proves to the existence of God through men who were in the Bible and Interact with God. Solomon,David,many of the Jews,the Torah, history is proof enough of science can't cut it.

The prophecies in the Bible are already manifesting. What's your explanation for that. History proves Jesus existed why. That's my opinion.