[Discussion] Existence of a God.

[Ansatsuken]

As Jaeger said, I agreed with him

I actually dont care about this kind of threads and debates.

I rather save my self first than try very hard to convince someone to accept my believe,

Even going back to ancient or old days, there are many humans that still dont believe or follow God words although they know God exist when God show them miracle, its power etc

That's mean when today humans like OP and his followers as example ask this kind of question, Im not surprise a little bit even I believe that OP still will stick with his current believe even though God showing himself in front of him.

 

[Ramen Dragneel]

What you're saying is completely true. But irrelevant.



Then why do people claim it's true if they don't have proof ?

Also you can't prove a negative.

like you said. its faith. People believe in something greater than themselves because it gives them something to look up to. and i don't mean admire i mean something to look up in a sense of a guiding power. Have you noticed that with every god there is some kind of guide for conduct. "God" is a spiritual concept meant to provide people with guidance. You can throw science at people but science can't guide an individual. Science proves a great deal but it does not prove right from wrong when it comes to morality. I do believe in god and in the concept of god. without it morality would not exist and the balance of life that exists would not exist. The basic construct of government and law would not exist. God and the belief in god is balance. Balance of the scientific world which proves and the spiritual which guides.

also you can prove a negate. The concept of proving that something is something prove the fact that it is not something else. technically speaking. if that makes sense to you.

 

[Taco King]

God is a tyrant.

Lucifer is the one I fucks with.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I'd rather believe in God and get nothing if he doesn't exist than not believe in him and get screwed if he exists...

So what if I told you that there is an invisible hippo that lives on the moon and is going to come down to Earth tomorrow and eat everyone who doesn't believe in him? Would you believe in him? There is no punishment for believing in the hippo and being wrong, but there is punishment for not believing in the hippo and being wrong.

 

[Ansatsuken]

So what if I told you that there is an invisible hippo that lives on the moon and is going to come down to Earth tomorrow and eat everyone who doesn't believe in him? Would you believe in him? There is no punishment for believing in the hippo and being wrong, but there is punishment for not believing in the hippo and being wrong.

Well, you said tomorrow that Hippo gonna come down to earth right, OK, I dont want to believe in him now.

We will see what happen to me tommorow. I accept your challenge.

What you gonna say about this?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Well, you said tomorrow that Hippo gonna come down to earth right, OK, I dont want to believe in him now.

We will see what happen to me tommorow. I accept your challenge.

What you gonna say about this?

Dude that was just an example. My point is that believing in something out of fear is a stupid reason.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Dude that was just an example. My point is that believing in something out of fear is a stupid reason.

My my god is not like that everytime give that kind of warning.

But in ancient time in my own believe and religion, God(Allah) punish humans at that time directly unlike today humans. Its happen, try to read Quran and Hadis, it told you about previous, previous events like big flood as example.

But humans at that time still dont believe and follow him because their desires/lust/passion corrupted their wise thinking and truth.

Us as Muslim just waiting for one events to see God power that is Judgement day.

Us Muslim fear our God not because God will do like your example before, not like that. We fear afterlife event that is Hell because of our sin. Still us must fear God more.

I didnt insult you and you didnt insult me, we respect our own opinion and believe.

Peace.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

The concept of a god hasnt been proven wrong either you can say a god or gods don't exist but how do you know they are Gods why should they prove they exist

 

[Jɑégar]

So what if I told you that there is an invisible hippo that lives on the moon and is going to come down to Earth tomorrow and eat everyone who doesn't believe in him? Would you believe in him? There is no punishment for believing in the hippo and being wrong, but there is punishment for not believing in the hippo and being wrong.

Are you comparing a God to a hippo, or think God is a man? Sorry, but your concept of God is missed up. Plus, I'm not a christian, so I don't worship Jesus.

Plus, I worship God out of love, and I do fear his wrath. Is that wrong or something?

Gotta follow his 1k amount of rules as well. C:

Sure I will lel =D

 

[Exosphere]

God could or could not exist. I think the best way is just to live life to the best of your ability and whatever happens afterwards happens. Nothing you can really do about it xd

 

[t pain]

My my god is not like that everytime give that kind of warning.

But in ancient time in my own believe and religion, God(Allah) punish humans at that time directly unlike today humans. Its happen, try to read Quran and Hadis, it told you about previous, previous events like big flood as example.

But humans at that time still dont believe and follow him because their desires/lust/passion corrupted their wise thinking and truth.

Us as Muslim just waiting for one events to see God power that is Judgement day.

Us Muslim fear our God not because God will do like your example before, not like that. We fear afterlife event that is Hell because of our sin. Still us must fear God more.

I didnt insult you and you didnt insult me, we respect our own opinion and believe.

Peace.

This is the problem, why do you fear God? Because of destruction, then, we'll probably be all dead if any sin would bring our deaths.And God will probably have killed us right now for arguing about His existence

 

[commaweed]

From what I see people usually think that a God exists. What I don't understand is why ? The concept of God has never been proven with proof. It's a belief. Belief - confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof:faith. People usually think that since Science doesn't have the answers to everything,then God did it which is The God of Gaps argument,since we don't know why or how something happens whether it be the creation of the universe or morality it must've been God which doesn't make much sense when you really think about it. That's what religion does it doesn't change it's stance and think it's infallible. Unlike Science which has admitted many occasion where it's been wrong.

How can one prove a God exists ? It's something man made it's a primitive concept,it's never been proven it's just a belief it's not anything factual why can't people understand this.

Well there is a question I always ask atheist and I will ask you, do you believe evil exists, have you seen black magic,voodoo dark arts etc,I come from a country where these things happen in broad day light. There have been testimonies of Gods works in people's lives, and history has some events that testify to the existence of God,Jehovah. The biggest example of the existence of Jehovah are the Jews.

Let me leave you with a saying,The Keizer asked Bismack for the existence of God and he replied,the Jews my lord,the Jews.
They have the most Untampered and unadulterated worship of God. I am not a Jew but I say this. I believe in Jesus but I respect the Jews because they are Gods chosen people. I have gone through events and I can tell you yes there is a God cause I know he listens and watches over me. If you were an all powerful being would you want to show yourself to unworthy creations just to prove your existence,that's like a wiseman trying to prove his point by speaking and arguing with a fool.

 

[Mypower]

Well there is a question I always ask atheist and I will ask you, do you believe evil exists, have you seen black magic,voodoo dark arts etc,I come from a country where these things happen in broad day light. There have been testimonies of Gods works in people's lives, and history has some events that testify to the existence of God,Jehovah. The biggest example of the existence of Jehovah are the Jews.

Let me leave you with a saying,The Keizer asked Bismack for the existence of God and he replied,the Jews my lord,the Jews.
They have the most Untampered and unadulterated worship of God. I am not a Jew but I say this. I believe in Jesus but I respect the Jews because they are Gods chosen people. I have gone through events and I can tell you yes there is a God cause I know he listens and watches over me. If you were an all powerful being would you want to show yourself to unworthy creations just to prove your existence,that's like a wiseman trying to prove his point by speaking and arguing with a fool.

What are you trying to say ?

 

[Bolt Rules]

yes Itachi does exist

 

[Ansatsuken]

This is the problem, why do you fear God? Because of destruction, then, we'll probably be all dead if any sin would bring our deaths.And God will probably have killed us right now for arguing about His existence

You still not clear about this matter, actually its not like what you are saying now.

God will not kill us right now although there are humans that challenge God(Allah) power meet death after that, but that is rare cases.

And that a big loss to them in their lives because they doesn't has a chance to atone their sins to God and the consequences is, they will be punished in hell after the Day of Judgement because of Sins they carried.

Why should God bring in destruction in current time if God has prepared Hell for the sinner after all humans are dead and after Judgement Day.

For the Sinner, their place in Hell is absolute if they not atone their Sins to God.

For non-believer of God(Allah), Allah will burn him in Hell for eternity. You want that t pain? Yes think about what you said, You said why God not bring us destruction because not believe him now?

I answer you, If God bring in the destruction and kill all humans right now because not believe at him, Yeah sure we will die but in afterlife after all humans get revive back by God(Allah), the Sinner that died inside that destruction will get burn in Hell for eternity. We still cant escape from worst condition after we die.

God(Allah) had a reason why God didn't do what you think about in your post, he gave a chance for humans to atone their Sins before every humans meet their death moment.

 

[raizzonWAN]

i too find the way people explain god to be Ridiculous.

most of them Just keep on telling you Since Science cant explain everything, THEN WHO ELSE WOULD IT BE OTHER THAN GOD.

Since it cant be proven, Hence GOD.

Since we dont know shit, Hence GOD.

its Not quantum Mechanics, where the Act of Measuring itself gives value to the Matter.

In due time, Science will most probably explain everything. Just have to wait it out.

 

[ministerC4]

i too find the way people explain god to be Ridiculous.

most of them Just keep on telling you Since Science cant explain everything, THEN WHO ELSE WOULD IT BE OTHER THAN GOD.

Since it cant be proven, Hence GOD.

Since we dont know shit, Hence GOD.

This is the logic that most theists use that make them so flawed.
"Oh I can't explain why that man is floating, must be God."
Yet God would be hundreds of times harder to explain/prove than the man floating himself.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

please give me a proof that the number 3 comes after 2 ,please do.........

 

[ministerC4]

please give me a proof that the number 3 comes after 2 ,please do.........

The numbers are but definitions, the numbers each represent things.
3 is a representation of three times the object(Not plural).

If I had one bottle, it'd be but 1 bottle, and nothing else, if I had added 1 it'd equal 2, and it'd be nothing but two bottles.
If one bottle higher is more, and more is ascending, also known as going up, then adding one more to obtain three would mean 3 comes after 2.

Though that doesn't apply to everything, 3 doesn't necessarily always come after two, no one always decides if these numbers start from the bottom layer, or top.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

The numbers are but definitions, the numbers each represent things.
3 is a representation of three times the object(Not plural).

If I had one bottle, it'd be but 1 bottle, and nothing else, if I had added 1 it'd equal 2, and it'd be nothing but two bottles.
If one bottle higher is more, and more is ascending, also known as going up, then adding one more to obtain three would mean 3 comes after 2.

Though that doesn't apply to everything, 3 doesn't necessarily always come after two, no one always decides if these numbers start from the bottom layer, or top.

"count the numbers from smallest to the biggest " a question that has been asked in schools many times,besides addition is just a dorm Calculation that you used just to prove a piont,it doesn't always work that way....

2 humans cannot add up into a "god",neither does anything that we know about so far so........