KCM Minato vs DSM Kabuto

[Izanamı.]

Minato summons Fukasaku. Fukasaku summons his club and knocks the senjutsu out of Kabutos body XD

lol i've thought about that as a tactic before​

 

[Gold Lightning]

lol i've thought about that as a tactic before​

Don't see why it wouldn't work

 

[Haizaki]

Minato takes it.

 

[Narutimate Storm]

Base minato take it (outside of cave)

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kabuto wins.

- FTG kunais all gets eaten with a field of snakes (then reverse summon when they complete their mission). Or Muki Tensei moves the tags to whatever Kabuto wants it to be.

- White Rage gets set off, then the match is over.

- SM reactions are able to progressively react to a Juubi Jin movements, so Minato's speed wont be any different.

- Oral Rebirth, worst case scenario, if tagged.

- Rasengan gets tanked, like in canon, but recover worst case scenario with Oral Rebirth to gain a new body.

- Nenkin no Yoroi blocks chakra from damaging Kabuto's body, so nothing in Minato's arsenal that Kabuto can't recovered from.

I need to be reminded how Minato wins this.

 

[VongolaX]

Even I don't know who would win, but I'm siding on minato for this one.

I'm not gonna say something stupid like "rasengan GG," he has oral rebirth and muki tensei.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Minato low diff

Not surprise you can't make a good argument. All you can do is cry and dislike every post I make, like its suppose to do something.

 

[V h o]

Not sure how minato gets pass white rage...

 

[Ansatsuken]

Minato win

He will use that longest name jutsu.

 

[Demonic.]

Not surprise you can't make a good argument. All you can do is cry and dislike every post I make, like its suppose to do something.

This clown. I dislike your post cause you're a biased fool with double standards.

You claim SM will react to Minato's movements, but when it's SM Hashirama vs Minato you wank Minato's speed up the ass and say he won't react even in SM.

I can't take you seriously.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

This clown. I dislike your post cause you're a biased fool with double standards.

You claim SM will react to Minato's movements, but when it's SM Hashirama vs Minato you wank Minato's speed up the ass and say he won't react even in SM.

I can't take you seriously.

As I expected, a clown that would fabricate my words. Indeed of reading my post full of hate to begin with, wouldn't have gotten your feelings hurt in the first place.

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I post/quote #39 of what I stated:

Sasuke and Naruto were able to progressively traced obitos movements. They were blitz the first time. So I agree with the notion that SM Hashirama should be able to progressively react to Minato's blitz.

The match is Hashirama not starting in SM, which is a perfect position to blitz tag Base mode

This is why I rarely put time in replying to you. All you do is cry, misinterpret, and still catching feelings of our first argument. And all you is hate at the end of the day, to the hopes that I "look bad".

Its plain silly, and a waste of time.

 

[Narutimate Storm]

Kabuto wins.

- FTG kunais all gets eaten with a field of snakes (then reverse summon when they complete their mission). Or Muki Tensei moves the tags to whatever Kabuto wants it to be.

- White Rage gets set off, then the match is over.

- SM reactions are able to progressively react to a Juubi Jin movements, so Minato's speed wont be any different.

- Oral Rebirth, worst case scenario, if tagged.

- Rasengan gets tanked, like in canon, but recover worst case scenario with Oral Rebirth to gain a new body.

- Nenkin no Yoroi blocks chakra from damaging Kabuto's body, so nothing in Minato's arsenal that Kabuto can't recovered from.

I need to be reminded how Minato wins this.

Not sire how you think kabuto locate every of kunai while in dark cave? Also since it cave, minato kunai will land into ceiling, behind rocks, in ditches... Plenty of place where kabuto not find kunai. Snake try to take his kunai waste of time. Minato kage bunshin also make own kuani and spread more. Or minato jist resummon his kunai to himself. Anything linked to minato chakra he can move. The jutsu shiki on each kunai allow minato to summon forth his kunai back into his hand.

White rage set off, then minato teleport everywhere, to confuse kabuto. Since not be able to move properly, but hiraishin is fine because minato just think it and he can teleport. White rage not stop him teleprotjng.

Liar, sm not reacting to juubi jins. Fanfication! Sm naruto not even react to blind madara so you claim false. Sm minato jot react to juubi jin madara either. Kabuto is fodder compared to madara. His sm fodder against minato speed.

Oral rebirth is stupid. Because he vurnrable while using it. So while kabuto ermging from old body, minato instanly teleprot and then mark new kabuto body, while kabuto is still "rebirthing". Dont think minato will just stand still and watch him. As long as kabuto get marked once, everytime he try to rebirth, minato quickly teleport to mark him again since he vulnerable in that one moment. No escape.

Tank one rasengan fine, but you think mjnato stop woth jist one Lol. He keep spamming rasengan all over his body till kabuto serious injured. If minato able to land rasengan, then obviously minato will be close enough to mark. We always see minato leave mark and attack at same time. So while kabuto regenerating. Minato hit him with more barrage of rasengan or even giant rasengan. Lets see how many time kabuto will regenerate.

Or like someone said, summon Fukasaku sama. Use sage stick to remove senjutsu from kabuto body and turn him back ti fodder.

 

[BLAZE]

Kabuto wins this

 

[KidGamer65]

Kabuto wins.

- FTG kunais all gets eaten with a field of snakes (then reverse summon when they complete their mission). Or Muki Tensei moves the tags to whatever Kabuto wants it to be.

- White Rage gets set off, then the match is over.

- SM reactions are able to progressively react to a Juubi Jin movements, so Minato's speed wont be any different.

- Oral Rebirth, worst case scenario, if tagged.

- Rasengan gets tanked, like in canon, but recover worst case scenario with Oral Rebirth to gain a new body.

- Nenkin no Yoroi blocks chakra from damaging Kabuto's body, so nothing in Minato's arsenal that Kabuto can't recovered from.

I need to be reminded how Minato wins this.

Correction. BSM Naruto is fast enough to react to Juubi Jin movements, not any SM user, thought that should be obvious.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Not sire how you think kabuto locate every of kunai while in dark cave? Also since it cave, minato kunai will land into ceiling, behind rocks, in ditches... Plenty of place where kabuto not find kunai.

Lol like darkness would stop him, when this man can fight blind like he did against the Uchiha's. Too bad manga outright stated that SM users become one with nature, so he can feel the Kunai's planted on rocks/ceilings, and ditches.

Snake try to take his kunai waste of time. Minato kage bunshin also make own kuani and spread more.

No it isn't a waste of time. Snakes/Orochimaru has shown to conceal things to whatever they swallow. Its Minato's limited of Kunai's verse 10,000 snakes Kabuto can summon. 10,000 (and only 1 snake needs to eat a single Kunai) is bound to eat them all.

Or minato jist resummon his kunai to himself. Anything linked to minato chakra he can move. The jutsu shiki on each kunai allow minato to summon forth his kunai back into his hand.

Except you have no evidence. The tag can only be used as transport for other objects, not to itself. Your making stuff up. Even then, that only helps Kabuto's case if they are all back to Minato, then that would mean they are all back to one location. White Rage gg.

White rage set off, then minato teleport everywhere, to confuse kabuto. Since not be able to move properly, but hiraishin is fine because minato just think it and he can teleport. White rage not stop him teleprotjng.

No evidence that he can concentrate for that. Even then: Muki Tensei still can change the location of the Kunai for Kabuto's benefit and your (no evidence) premise has Minato force to have his Kunai's back to where he is.

Liar, sm not reacting to juubi jins. Fanfication! Sm naruto not even react to blind madara so you claim false. Sm minato jot react to juubi jin madara either. Kabuto is fodder compared to madara. His sm fodder against minato speed.

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] This isn't a lie, Naruto outright stated he was starting to sense his movements and tags Juubito. Juubito's movements>>>> Minato's. Not to mention none of your examples aren't effective here as SM Minato went for a striking speed while SM Naruto wanted to block, which he successfully did.

Oral rebirth is stupid. Because he vurnrable while using it. So while kabuto ermging from old body, minato instanly teleprot and then mark new kabuto body, while kabuto is still "rebirthing". Dont think minato will just stand still and watch him. As long as kabuto get marked once, everytime he try to rebirth, minato quickly teleport to mark him again since he vulnerable in that one moment. No escape.

Lol stop, Oral Rebirth has stated its hard to detect when the caster is using it (so it doesn't matter what speed feat you are using here)[

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So useless.

Tank one rasengan fine, but you think mjnato stop woth jist one Lol. He keep spamming rasengan all over his body till kabuto serious injured. If minato able to land rasengan, then obviously minato will be close enough to mark. We always see minato leave mark and attack at same time. So while kabuto regenerating. Minato hit him with more barrage of rasengan or even giant rasengan. Lets see how many time kabuto will regenerate.

Or he can just use Oral Rebirth, adapt to his speed, and use Muki Tensei to kill off Clones, since clones go "poof" from direct hits (and theres no escaping the whole cave against you)

Or like someone said, summon Fukasaku sama. Use sage stick to remove senjutsu from kabuto body and turn him back ti fodder.

Useless since Kabuto can just go back no difficulty, due to Juugo's DNA.

Snakes carries his chakra signature + can use Hidling like a Mole tech. Too easy.

Not to mention no evidence that Minato can summon him. They're summoning requirements to summon specific toads, such as chakra. Jiraya used a Ritual + Senjutsu chakra he gather to summon them. So evidence shows that senjutsu chakra is at least required to summon this toad. And Minato is trash when it comes to gathering this energy.

Correction. BSM Naruto is fast enough to react to Juubi Jin movements, not any SM user, thought that should be obvious.

Negative sensing was a non factor in that match.

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, there was no more bad chakra to sense the juubi. Not to mention SM>>Negative sense so you can't even prove how much did this help more then SM sense.

P.S. I dont believe in this hype of Negative sensing got "recton" to normal sensing

 

[KidGamer65]

Negative sensing was a non factor in that match. Ever since the Juubi came, there was no more bad chakra to sense the juubi. Not to mention SM>>Negative sense so you can't even prove how much did this help more then SM sense.

P.S. I dont believe in this hype of Negative sensing got "recton" to normal sensing

Not talking about Negative Sensing. BSM Naruto is obviously many tiers faster than SM Naruto and SM Kabuto, thus he'll be able to perceive and react to things much faster than they can. SM Naruto obviously isn't going to react to Juubito like BSM Naruto did.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Not talking about Negative Sensing. BSM Naruto is obviously many tiers faster than SM Naruto and SM Kabuto, thus he'll be able to perceive and react to things much faster than they can. SM Naruto obviously isn't going to react to Juubito like BSM Naruto did.

Using Kurama's avatar isn't going to make him faster then his chakra mode, which he used against Juubito. Not sure how that matters in this case here, since Naruto SM doesn't get a reaction boost from mixing it with Kurama's chakra

 

[KidGamer65]

Using Kurama's avatar isn't going to make him faster then his chakra mode, which he used against Juubito.

Based on what? The only thing BSM Naruto has over Sage Kurama Avatar is Shunshin speed. By feats Kurama dominates in other areas, such as striking speed.

The only thing that Naruto gets slower in, is his Shunshin, since he can't use it. Nothing else.

Not sure how that matters in this case here, since Naruto SM doesn't get a reaction boost from mixing it with Kurama's chakra

The overall person gets a speed boost, thus BSM Naruto can react to things faster than SM Naruto can. Not sure how I can make that any simpler than I already have. Unless you think SM Naruto reacts to Juubito the same way BSM Naruto does despite BSM Naruto being FAR faster than SM Naruto, you don't have a point.

That's like saying SM Jiraiya can react to Juubito, solely because a Sage reacted to him before. Doesn't make sense.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Based on what? The only thing BSM Naruto has over Sage Kurama Avatar is Shunshin speed. By feats Kurama dominates in other areas, such as striking speed.

The only thing that Naruto gets slower in, is his Shunshin, since he can't use it. Nothing else.

Not sure how you can conclude that Kurama dominates in striking speed. Only thing we saw it dominate in is durability. You can only base that off only from the fact he used that Mode against Juubito (which he needed for its attack power then partial transformation). Which isn't a fair conclusion here.

The overall person gets a speed boost, thus BSM Naruto can react to things faster than SM Naruto can. Not sure how I can make that any simpler than I already have. Unless you think SM Naruto reacts to Juubito the same way BSM Naruto does despite BSM Naruto being FAR faster than SM Naruto, you don't have a point.

Being faster doesn't Nerf the reaction ability itself. Especially when the reaction can develop and adapt.

That's like saying SM Jiraiya can react to Juubito, solely because a Sage reacted to him before. Doesn't make sense.

BSM Naruto being FAR faster than SM Hashirama, therefore it doesn't make sense for him to tag Juubito? If i were to use the same logic

 

[KidGamer65]

Not sure how you can conclude that Kurama dominates in striking speed. Only thing we saw it dominate in is durability. You can only base that off only from the fact he used that Mode against Juubito (which he needed for its attack power then partial transformation). Which isn't a fair conclusion here.

Based on the fact that Kurama has the feat of striking fast enough to tag Juubito while BSM Naruto has zero feat that'd put him on that level. Same goes for Sasuke.

Being faster doesn't Nerf the reaction ability itself. Especially when the reaction can develop and adapt.

Nerf? Nope. Being faster means your ability to react is better. That simple.

BSM Naruto being FAR faster than SM Hashirama, therefore it doesn't make sense for him to tag Juubito? If i were to use the same logic

Except he's not, not when it comes to reaction speed.

EMS Madara=EMS Sasuke in reaction speed at the very least.

EMS Sasuke reacted to Juubito, thus EMS Madara would do so as well.

Hashirama=EMS Madara in reaction speed.Thus he'd react as fast as Madara, who reacts as fast as Sasuke, who reacted as fast as Naruto. Thus he reacts to Juubito as well.

That is why SM Hashirama can react to Juubito, not because Sage Mode grants him some God level perception.