[Discussion] Existence of a God.

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

God and Gravity are two entirely different concepts. I'm not sure why tieing gravity with God explains anything. Can you please elaborate more on this or use a different example that can help your argument.

I'm not a smug or a better term arrogant person I realize that I could be wrong. It's not only atheist there are many other people that are arrogant like Muslims,Christians,Jews why are you only choosing atheists that seems a bit biased. Again I don't have a belief that God does not exist I lack the belief in a God, Atheism isn't a belief based system. Also I'm not only talking about only the Judeo-Christain God I'm don't have belief in all deities.

Also no one can prove a negative. I know this. I guess maybe I wasn't coming a bit clearly in my OP. No one believes in Zeus but can they disprove it no it's the same way with the "God" people are "atheistic" when it comes to alot of things like the Easter Bunny, Zeus,Prometheous, Aphrodite,ISIS(Goddess) but not about their God all I'm doing is just going on one God further.

I'm not saying religion is a bad concept I'm saying that it doesn't require any evidence,it's just a belief people seem to not to understand this they always think that God is real and everything around the earth proves it. I don't get how that shows a God exists.


I'm pretty sure I said I was an atheist .



Let me respond with this video. Please watch it. This describes what I'm trying to say.


[video=youtube;ovlrV7SoPCo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovlrV7SoPCo[/video]





Please be respectful come on man. U_U We just talking no need to be rude.

Lmao its ok Haters gunna hate

 

[Mypower]

Lmao its ok Haters gunna hate

It's pretty sad that people can't be open-minded. It's like they're not understanding what we're saying.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

It's pretty sad that people can't be open-minded. It's like they're not understanding what we're saying.

Exactly, Id rather have my mind opened by asking questions some may deem us to "arrogant" to comprehend than keep it closed and blindly follow the faith of my forebears.

 

[t pain]

God exists FINAL! why do you need to be convinced? Just keep your own beliefs to yourself and we'll keep ours.I just pray you see the truth soon.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

God exists FINAL! why do you need to be convinced? Just keep your own beliefs to yourself and we'll keep ours.I just pray you see the truth soon.

I need to be convinced because there is no proof "God" exists.

 

[t pain]

I need to be convinced because there is no proof "God" exists.

I think you're actually looking for an excuse to believe in God, i can't explain it to you but soon you'll have a SUPERNATURAL understanding of how HE is.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

I think you're actually looking for an excuse to believe in God, i can't explain it to you but soon you'll have a SUPERNATURAL understanding of how HE is.

Not at all, I have my own belief structure.

 

[Jɑégar]

God and Gravity are two entirely different concepts. I'm not sure why tieing gravity with God explains anything. Can you please elaborate more on this or use a different example that can help your argument.

I'm not a smug or a better term arrogant person I realize that I could be wrong. It's not only atheist there are many other people that are arrogant like Muslims,Christians,Jews why are you only choosing atheists that seems a bit biased. Again I don't have a belief that God does not exist I lack the belief in a God, Atheism isn't a belief based system. Also I'm not only talking about only the Judeo-Christain God I don't have belief in all deities.

Also no one can prove a negative. I know this. I guess maybe I wasn't coming a bit clearly in my OP. No one believes in Zeus but can they disprove it no it's the same way with the "God" people are "atheistic" when it comes to alot of things like the Easter Bunny, Zeus,Prometheous, Aphrodite,ISIS(Goddess) but not about their God all I'm doing is just going on one God further.

I'm not saying religion is a bad concept I'm saying that it doesn't require any evidence,it's just a belief people seem to not to understand this they always think that God is real and everything around the earth proves it. I don't get how that shows a God exists.


I'm pretty sure I said I was an atheist .



Let me respond with this video. Please watch it. This describes what I'm trying to say.


[video=youtube;ovlrV7SoPCo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovlrV7SoPCo[/video]





Please be respectful come on man. U_U We just talking no need to be rude.

Do you really understand what others say? Moreover, did you get what I meant? Lel

 

[Mypower]

Do you really understand what others say? Moreover, did you get what I meant? Lel

OP, you really seem uncertain about what you're saying. It's like you want to believe but you can't; you seek help.

You asked me this.I'm an atheist what don't you get.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Oh Please provide definitive proof your "God" exists as you say he does.

provide definitive proof he doesn't as you say. See everybody can play this game.

And what's the difference between funky saying "some big bang theory nonsense" and what typical Atheist like you do? If anything your type are the more juvenile of the groups in your incessant attacking and degrading of people simply for their belief, most of you would rather insult and belittle another human being for believing something different than you because you don't believe it has a possibility rather than attack the religion they are following. And yes I know that's a generalization which is why I said most. You both believe what you do based on information you find credible, "The greatest flaw that any intelligent person has is to think that they're smarter than everyone else" - IT None of know anything about it definitively and none of us can prove it, right now you're all just talking shit and insulting each other like petty children.

 

[t pain]

Not at all, I have my own belief structure.

May I know what this belief structure is?

 

[chopstickchakra]

It's pretty sad that people can't be open-minded. It's like they're not understanding what we're saying.

Vegeta, what's the hypocrisy level on this one?

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You say be open minded but you've clearly shut off any consideration of the existence of a supreme being.

 

[Mypower]

Vegeta, what's the hypocrisy level on this one?

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You say be open minded but you've clearly shut off any consideration of the existence of a supreme being.

Did you see my response it's in the last page.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

provide definitive proof he doesn't as you say. See everybody can play this game.

And what's the difference between funky saying "some big bang theory nonsense" and what typical Atheist like you do? If anything your type are the more juvenile of the groups in your incessant attacking and degrading of people simply for their belief, most of you would rather insult and belittle another human being for believing something different than you because you don't believe it has a possibility rather than attack the religion they are following. And yes I know that's a generalization which is why I said most. You both believe what you do based on information you find credible, "The greatest flaw that any intelligent person has is to think that they're smarter than everyone else" - IT None of know anything about it definitively and none of us can prove it, right now you're all just talking shit and insulting each other like petty children.

*Agnostic not Atheist. Dont come at me like you know me. All i am doing is simply stating the truth, These people want to come out and just say that their god exists but provide no proof and cant admit that its only a belief based on their faith. One person here did. The rest just say "oh the bible" "oh the Quran" and every time they do im going to call them out. Ive admitted i can not disprove god and never told any one that they are wrong in their beliefs.

 

[Jɑégar]

You asked me this.I'm an atheist what don't you get.

Again, you didn't get what I said. I didn't question you in the first place. I just said that you're and atheist and you seem like you want to believe but you can't because there's no proof. You yourself aren't sure about it. That's why you made this thread. Got what I meant?

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

May I know what this belief structure is?

You may not

 

[Mypower]

Again, you didn't get what I said. I didn't question you in the first place. I just said that you're and atheist and you seem like you want to believe but you can't because there's no proof. You yourself aren't sure about it. That's why you made this thread. Got what I meant?

I didn't say that I want to believe I asked why do people believe in God if there's no proof did you read my OP

From what I see people usually think that a God exists. What I don't understand is why ? The concept of God has never been proven with proof. It's a belief. Belief - confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof:faith. People usually think that since Science doesn't have the answers to everything,then God did it which is The God of Gaps argument,since we don't know why or how something happens whether it be the creation of the universe or morality it must've been God which doesn't make much sense when you really think about it. That's what religion does it doesn't change it's stance and think it's infallible. Unlike Science which has admitted many occasion where it's been wrong.

How can one prove a God exists ? It's something man made it's a primitive concept,it's never been proven it's just a belief it's not anything factual why can't people understand this.

 

[Jɑégar]

I didn't say that I want to believe I asked why do people believe in God if there's no proof did you read my OP

I know man. You clearly haven't read that I wrote "You seemed". It's just an assumption. It may or may not be true.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

I didn't say that I want to believe I asked why do people believe in God if there's no proof did you read my OP

I think they understand it, they just refuse to acknowledge it. The real question is why cant they admit it?

 

[chopstickchakra]

God and Gravity are two entirely different concepts. I'm not sure why tieing gravity with God explains anything. Can you please elaborate more on this or use a different example that can help your argument.

I'm not a smug or a better term arrogant person I realize that I could be wrong. It's not only atheist there are many other people that are arrogant like Muslims,Christians,Jews why are you only choosing atheists that seems a bit biased. Again I don't have a belief that God does not exist I lack the belief in a God, Atheism isn't a belief based system. Also I'm not only talking about only the Judeo-Christain God I don't have belief in all deities.

Also no one can prove a negative. I know this. I guess maybe I wasn't coming a bit clearly in my OP. No one believes in Zeus but can they disprove it no it's the same way with the "God" people are "atheistic" when it comes to alot of things like the Easter Bunny, Zeus,Prometheous, Aphrodite,ISIS(Goddess) but not about their God all I'm doing is just going on one God further.

I'm not saying religion is a bad concept I'm saying that it doesn't require any evidence,it's just a belief people seem to not to understand this they always think that God is real and everything around the earth proves it. I don't get how that shows a God exists.

"why are you only choosing atheists "
Because you identified yourself as one and I am addressing you therefore I decided to stay pertinent to the discussion and focus on where you were coming from with it.

"God and Gravity are two entirely different concepts. I'm not sure why tieing gravity with God explains anything. Can you please elaborate more on this or use a different example that can help your argument. "
The point was you said there's no proof of God's existence and I said that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Just like at one point there was no way to prove gravitational pull existed but that didn't stop it from existing. I guess I can sum it up best with this "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" Just because you can't prove something is there doesn't mean it isn't.

"I'm not a smug or a better term arrogant "
Better is relative, smug is just as good as arrogant. And yes I'm throwing this in here to try and lighten the mood so everybody just chill out for a second take a breath and smile. Ok.

" I don't get how that shows a God exists."
You don't have to get it that's those peoples personal beliefs, there's no reason to think they would apply to you, you're a separate being.

"Also no one can prove a negative"
You can prove object A can't break object B isn't that proving a negative? I agree though we can never prove a God doesn't exist and it's not because he does, I don't think we'd ever be able to actually prove one did or not, it's not within our capabilities. Your talking about(it sounds) more like a specific incarnation of God, which would be the Abrahamic religions version, who has a hand in how the world turns and the daily activities of everybody, when God should be thought of simply as a force that initiated life, the architect if you will, just whatever it is that aligned our building blocks of the universe just right that it induced life, that's God. When you focus too much on trying to identify it you start to lose what it really is.