EMS Madara vs EMS Sasuke

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Eventually gets roasted too. It's attacks are easily evaded. Either Madara outlasts the summon time, or he ends up killing it.

Madara is not dodging Kirin or Amaterasu so you can kill that noise amaterasu/enton shits on any Katon periode this by no means is coming down to a battle of outlasting.

Madara. Superior Katon, Taijutsu and speed. Genjutsu is useless. Although one may be able to make a plausible argument as to how Sasuke might end this with close quarters Enton, but Madara has better intangibles.

Amaterasu > All forms of katon/mangas style there is is so no. Taijutsu is useless when ration varients come into play. Agreed on Genjutsu.

No Susanoo? Then Madara will roast Sasuke with Katon.

Amaterasu shits on katon

Katon fries him.

Amaterasu burns katon

Madara wins this,

Not even close Kirin GG

No susannoo??? Sasuke wins with elbow room to spare! Unless the kyubi is in play.

for once i agree with you
 

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Madara is not dodging Kirin

Never happening.

or Amaterasu so you can kill that noise

Gets blocked.


amaterasu/enton shits on any Katon periode

Any feat from Sasuke that lets him create a Juubi Sized Amaterasu? If not, he's not doing shit to Madara's Katon.
 

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Never happening.
Gets blocked.
Any feat from Sasuke that lets him create a Juubi Sized Amaterasu? If not, he's not doing shit to Madara's Katon.

Once again in every thread Kirin is never happening huh? that same arguments gets old let me gets this straight when amaterasu & a katon the size of juubi is going off kirin is never happening? please get slaped. What blocks amaterasu and please dont say that shitty gunbai.

Amaterasu does not need to be the size of a katon once it hits it gets burned away unlike anything else amaterasu gets bigger and burns faster when its burning a katon.

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look how small it was before it completely took over the katon and it also does not extinguish the katons gets burnt away like it was in canon furthermore Aoda or his hawk would provide good protection from its anyways
 

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How is this still a debate? Madara killed Sasuke without his eyes and he even used his own sword. He could probably just falcon punch his susanoo or just grab his kirin and if not grab it he could probably reverse or use black rods to neutralize it.
 

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Once again in every thread Kirin is never happening huh? that same arguments gets old let me gets this straight when amaterasu & a katon the size of juubi is going off kirin is never happening? please get slaped.

Already explained this, not gonna repeat myself. Retorts such as this aren't getting you anywhere but a quick passage into my book of clowns.

What blocks amaterasu and please dont say that shitty gunbai.
Gunbai absorbs it and turns it to wind. Sorry pal.

Amaterasu does not need to be the size of a katon once it hits it gets burned away unlike anything else amaterasu gets bigger and burns faster when its burning a katon.

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look how small it was before it completely took over the katon and it also does not extinguish the katons gets burnt away like it was in canon furthermore Aoda or his hawk would provide good protection from its anyways

It's sickening how clowns lie about the manga nowadays.



Amaterasu didn't overtake shit until it became the size of said Katon. A small fireball isn't going to do shit to a large fireball, don't care what kind of flame it is. Firing a speck of Enton into a sea of Katon isn't going to do anything, at all. Same principle here. Unless he can make an Amaterasu large enough to consume Madara's Katon, it's nothing but a moot effort.

His hawk doesn't help him if Madara fires it straight upward, Aoda gets burnt over and over again till it leaves or till it's summoning time runs out.
 

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Already explained this, not gonna repeat myself. Retorts such as this aren't getting you anywhere but a quick passage into my book of clowns.

You didnt explain shit all you said was kirin is not happening. Lel your book of clowns as far as i knew i was already in that book and leading the troops and again why must you always resort to insults.


Gunbai absorbs it and turns it to wind. Sorry pal.

Since when does Gunabi absorbs things it has only shown to repel a set type of attacks (Explosive) and then turn the explosion back at you witch he did to naruto and geuss you thought that was wind? what a joke. Even naruto asked why his attack once amaterasu hits assuming Madara has enough time to even put Gunbai up its does nothing but get burnt to the ground or diced with enton spikes.



It's sickening how clowns lie about the manga nowadays.

Amaterasu didn't overtake shit until it became the size of said Katon. A small fireball isn't going to do shit to a large fireball, don't care what kind of flame it is. Firing a speck of Enton into a sea of Katon isn't going to do anything, at all. Same principle here. Unless he can make an Amaterasu large enough to consume Madara's Katon, it's nothing but a moot effort.

Quit playing the role in that scan you posted on the right lower side you can see the casting of Amaterasu is a very small size like when Sasuke first used it on it was'it untill it hit that it got that big also amaterasu takes the size of what it hits now im not saying its going to be the size of the katon or even close just near the size of the head of the katon and once its hits amaterasu burns it while getting bigger as its gets burned. Or Sasuke could amaterasu/enton as barrier if Itachi was able to make this without enton Sasuke does it in seconds the katon might be larger but it is not blowing through i giant wall of amaterasu without getting burnt up first.

His hawk doesn't help him if Madara fires it straight upward, Aoda gets burnt over and over again till it leaves or till it's summoning time runs out.

Agreed on the hawk. Aoda sheds its skin in barrow into the ground where his katon would be useless now Madara using his katon and Sasuke using amaterasu kirin comes almost instant then its gg.
 

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You didnt explain shit all you said was kirin is not happening. Lel your book of clowns as far as i knew i was already in that book and leading the troops and again why must you always resort to insults.

Aoda actually has to be able to burrow completely underground before the Katon hits, and considering the distance will be mid ranged at best since no one really has any large scaled jutsu, you can forget about him evading it like that. Releasing Katon means little unless they are being shot into the atmosphere. To prep Kirin, Sasuke needed a mini forest of Amaterasu to sit there, and it's extreme heat rose to the atmosphere, which heated up, and he needed a giant Dragon Flame to be shot directly into the atmosphere. Madara's Katon is only active for a few seconds, and it's nowhere near as hot as Amaterasu, so Madara using Katon barely contributes to Kirin. Sasuke will have to shoot it up into the air, but if he's busy spamming dozens of Katon into the air, he gets taken out by Madara.

If Aoda attacks from below, and Sasuke attacks from above, Madara either jumps up, clashes with and overpowers Sasuke, or he Shunshin's to the side and evades both of them.

Don't act like a clown and I won't call you a clown. That simple. That quote is from the first page. I clearly explained it. Lol.


Since when does Gunabi absorbs things it has only shown to repel a set type of attacks (Explosive) and then turn the explosion back at you witch he did to naruto and geuss you thought that was wind? what a joke. Even naruto asked why his attack once amaterasu hits assuming Madara has enough time to even put Gunbai up its does nothing but get burnt to the ground or diced with enton spikes.


Oh Jesus....

Gunbai takes in the attack, and then redirects it. That's exactly what happened to Naruto. What you said doesn't even make sense. It doesn't repel the attack, and then turn it back on the opponent, shit means the same thing. It absorbs (Hence Naruto's attack vanishing) and then it converts it to wind, and redirects it.

And yes, it's wind. Go read the Databook.

Uchiha Reflection (Uchiha Gaeshi)
Ninjutsu,close range,defensive,offensive, B-rank.
Users: Uchiha Madra/Uchiha Obito

The fan that produces the rough wind!
Uchiha family member s specialty to fan the fire is in their blood (this is why fan is their clan symbol,their pride- TN). Madra s weapon Gumbai Uchiwa (war fan) is a honorific, inherited from previous clansmen generations, carved of an unique spirit (sacred) tree "ryouju" from which only special ritual instruments are made.
This fan has a bound ability to convert incoming chakra to wind nature manipulation (seishitsu). By using the fan s stiffness,it returns back the enemy's jutsu in a burst of a violent storm,this is the “Uchiha reflection”nature. During the era of the warring kingdoms Madara killed many ninja by their own ninjutsu.
Picture 1: During the stage of the 4-th Great Ninja War Madara used this war fan to absorb Naruto' s "Chou mini bijudama".
Picture 2. And instantly converted into wind nature transformation. Strong gust of wind blew away Naruto' s shadow clone.


It converts any incoming chakra into wind. That's pretty nice.

Quit playing the role in that scan you posted on the right lower side you can see the casting of Amaterasu is a very small size like when Sasuke first used it on it was'it untill it hit that it got that big also amaterasu takes the size of what it hits now im not saying its going to be the size of the katon or even close just near the size of the head of the katon and once its hits amaterasu burns it while getting bigger as its gets burned. Or Sasuke could amaterasu/enton as barrier if Itachi was able to make this without enton Sasuke does it in seconds the katon might be larger but it is not blowing through i giant wall of amaterasu without getting burnt up first.
What it was at the start is irrelevant. It didn't consume the fire until it actually covered it completely, and Sasuke has NOT shown to make an Amaterasu that large, nor will it get that large on it's own, nor have you done anything to prove that it will.

-Itachi didn't make that Amaterasu with his own chakra, he lit some nearby trees on fire and the fire spread throughout the area.

-Amaterasu isn't going to burn the whole of the Katon unless it is larger than the Katon, and Sasuke can't produce one that large, so his efforts are useless.


Agreed on the hawk. Aoda sheds its skin in barrow into the ground where his katon would be useless now Madara using his katon and Sasuke using amaterasu kirin comes almost instant then its gg.

Orrr.....Aoda and Sasuke come up, and Madara evades. Already explained why Kirin isn't happening.
 

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Don't act like a clown and I won't call you a clown. That simple. That quote is from the first page. I clearly explained it. Lol.
Oh Jesus....
Gunbai takes in the attack, and then redirects it. That's exactly what happened to Naruto. What you said doesn't even make sense. It doesn't repel the attack, and then turn it back on the opponent, shit means the same thing. It absorbs (Hence Naruto's attack vanishing) and then it converts it to wind, and redirects it.
And yes, it's wind. Go read the Databook.
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What it was at the start is irrelevant. It didn't consume the fire until it actually covered it completely, and Sasuke has NOT shown to make an Amaterasu that large, nor will it get that large on it's own, nor have you done anything to prove that it will.
-Itachi didn't make that Amaterasu with his own chakra, he lit some nearby trees on fire and the fire spread throughout the area.
-Amaterasu isn't going to burn the whole of the Katon unless it is larger than the Katon, and Sasuke can't produce one that large, so his efforts are useless.
Orrr.....Aoda and Sasuke come up, and Madara evades. Already explained why Kirin isn't happening.

you said dont act like a clown and you want call me one what a joke. because i disagree im a clown? anyways im not into dragging this shit out to long because honestly it could go either way and Madz my second fav so for that ill give you this while still disagreeing with the kirin and Katon argument but whatever seems like you finally got a win over me.

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you said dont act like a clown and you want call me one what a joke. because i disagree im a clown? anyways im not into dragging this shit out to long because honestly it could go either way and Madz my second fav so for that ill give you this while still disagreeing with the kirin and Katon argument but whatever seems like you finally got a win over me.

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No......you are a clown because of the snarky retort and the fact that you didn't bother to read the other posts where I clearly countered a point you already brought up, and then even when I told you I explained it, you reply with "You didn't explain shit" despite my explanation being on the first page.

Lol
 

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No......you are a clown because of the snarky retort and the fact that you didn't bother to read the other posts where I clearly countered a point you already brought up, and then even when I told you I explained it, you reply with "You didn't explain shit" despite my explanation being on the first page.

Lol

he happy he got a win never happening again lol i even lose with finesse Damn im just to good
 

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Sasuke wins. Summon a huge snake in front of Madara's Katon then Enton spam and Madara is toast mid diff.
 
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