The whole thing about *** changes....

[Floydical]

I don't have kind views about it. Now please don't assume I'm intolerant, as I have nothing against gays and lesbians. But the way I see it, there is a huge difference between Homosexuals and people who get *** changes. A homosexual is someone who is embracing who the are and is proud of who they are. They are simply doing and acting the way they feel naturally. But a person that feels they need to get a *** change is not normal in the sense they can't accept who they truly are..... and that is a homosexual.

They will tell you they don't feel comfortable in their own skin.... that they should have been born a man instead of a woman or vise versa...... but this is the ultimate form of selfishness. Its also the ultimate form of lying. These people need to realize they were born the way they were and the only way they can be truly happy is if they ACCEPT WHO THEY ARE and find someone who loves them FOR WHO THEY ARE.

Does a man who became a woman honestly believe they can ever have a true relationship? Does a man who becomes a woman truly believe they can tell their spouse the truth and not have them running for the hills? Life is about sharing and there is no way in hell a person who had a *** change can have a true honest relationship. Now I am generalizing, but I doubt more than 1% of people in the world would be okay with marrying a man that became a woman or vise versa.

Again, I will say that getting a *** change is the ultimate form of deception. They may be doing it to feel better but it doesn't only affect them, it affects everyone around them. It forces the person to essentially lie to anyone and everyone they meet from that moment on. I see no reason in the world for a person to commit to such an extreme surgery. Its just proof that these people cannot accept who they are. What if they regret the decision? Can you imagine? You better believe that a decision like that doesn't affect only you, it affects your family, friends and everyone who knows you.

I don't expect to be treated nicely with this post, as its a pretty serious matter, but this is something that I feel very strongly about. Thanks for reading as always!

 

[Zook1]

I don't have kind views about it. Now please don't assume I'm intolerant, as I have nothing against gays and lesbians. But the way I see it, there is a huge difference between Homosexuals and people who get *** changes. A homosexual is someone who is embracing who the are and is proud of who they are. They are simply doing and acting the way they feel naturally. But a person that feels they need to get a *** change is not normal in the sense they can't accept who they truly are..... and that is a homosexual.

They will tell you they don't feel comfortable in their own skin.... that they should have been born a man instead of a woman or vise versa...... but this is the ultimate form of selfishness. Its also the ultimate form of lying. These people need to realize they were born the way they were and the only way they can be truly happy is if they ACCEPT WHO THEY ARE and find someone who loves them FOR WHO THEY ARE.

Does a man who became a woman honestly believe they can ever have a true relationship? Does a man who becomes a woman truly believe they can tell their spouse the truth and not have them running for the hills? Life is about sharing and there is no way in hell a person who had a *** change can have a true honest relationship. Now I am generalizing, but I doubt more than 1% of people in the world would be okay with marrying a man that became a woman or vise versa.

Again, I will say that getting a *** change is the ultimate form of deception. They may be doing it to feel better but it doesn't only affect them, it affects everyone around them. It forces the person to essentially lie to anyone and everyone they meet from that moment on. I see no reason in the world for a person to commit to such an extreme surgery. Its just proof that these people cannot accept who they are. What if they regret the decision? Can you imagine? You better believe that a decision like that doesn't affect only you, it affects your family, friends and everyone who knows you.

I don't expect to be treated nicely with this post, as its a pretty serious matter, but this is something that I feel very strongly about. Thanks for reading as always!

@bold no that's not a homosexual Lol

Homosexual - is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same *** or gender. As a sexual orientation, homosexuality is "an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same ***


I get what you mean though homosexuals and transexuals are completely differein in retrospect.

You need to educate yourself more on this subject their not trying to lie themselves it just feels like they were supposed to born in to other gender be it female or male.

 

[Ciao]

I think some people are truly born feeling that they relate more to the opposite gender but some people just want to have a *** change because it seems trendy or catches people's attention.

 

[Floydical]

@bold no that's not a homosexual Lol

Homosexual - is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same *** or gender. As a sexual orientation, homosexuality is "an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same ***


I get what you mean though homosexuals and transexuals are completely differein in retrospect.

You need to educate yourself more on this subject their not trying to lie themselves it just feels like they were supposed to born in to other gender be it female or male.

But all transsexuals were homosexuals to start with. That's because if its a man that became a woman, they used to be a man attracted to men. They simply wanted to be a woman to begin with. Transsexuals are more unstable than a normal homosexual and felt they need to change sexes. One could argue they are unstable or not capable of accepting who they truly are. All transsexuals are technically homosexuals.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Does a man who became a woman honestly believe they can ever have a true relationship? Does a man who becomes a woman truly believe they can tell their spouse the truth and not have them running for the hills? Life is about sharing and there is no way in hell a person who had a *** change can have a true honest relationship.

Well, it happens in real life, so yes.

 

[TRE MERCER]

One question i always wondered about people who want *** changes are they Homosexual? ​

 

[Zook1]

But all transsexuals were homosexuals to start with. That's because if its a man that became a woman, they used to be a man attracted to men. They simply wanted to be a woman to begin with. Transsexuals are more unstable than a normal homosexual and felt they need to change sexes. One could argue they are unstable or not capable of accepting who they truly are. All transsexuals are technically homosexuals.

@bold that's not always true.
No no no you got it all wrong.

Being gay means that you have an attraction to the same *** that you identify as. A transgendered person may or may not identify as being gay.

For example, I am transgendered female to male, and I am interested in male identified people, thus making me gay, since I am attracted to the same *** that I identify as. But a transgendered person could be interested in the opposite ***, or any ***, in which case they would not be considered gay.

Being transgendered is a part of someone's gender identity/expression. Being gay is a part of someone's sexual orientation.

I hope that helped to clear things up for you.

 

[Ōkami]

One question i always wondered about people who want *** changes are they Homosexual? ​

Indeed, I must question their sexuality as well.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

One question i always wondered about people who want *** changes are they Homosexual? ​

Most are, not all of them though.

 

[Floydical]

One question i always wondered about people who want *** changes are they Homosexual? ​

Yes they are as both homosexuals and transsexuals like the same ***. The difference is that transsexuals identify with the OPPOSITE *** and sometimes get a *** change. All transsexuals are homosexuals but not all homosexuals are transsexuals.... if that makes sense.

 

[Transcendence]

Indeed, I must question their sexuality as well.

I thought it was obvious. It usually starts with an attraction to the same ***, but said person wants to change to the other as they feel more like said *** (I.E. man to woman). So with almost complete certainty, they were/are homosexual.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

@bold that's not always true.
No no no you got it all wrong.

Being gay means that you have an attraction to the same *** that you identify as. A transgendered person may or may not identify as being gay.

For example, I am transgendered female to male, and I am interested in male identified people, thus making me gay, since I am attracted to the same *** that I identify as. But a transgendered person could be interested in the opposite ***, or any ***, in which case they would not be considered gay.

Being transgendered is a part of someone's gender identity/expression. Being gay is a part of someone's sexual orientation.

I hope that helped to clear things up for you.

Wait... did you use yourself as an example because you're a transsexual?

 

[Forest]

I'd say it's selfish to hold them to your personal belief / generalization. You are not a psychologist. And any negative reaction or judgement from their surroundings concerning their identity would also come from a selfish or righteous perspective. It's up to the individual to do what they want with their bodies, in the end, it's their bodies.

 

[Floydical]

@bold that's not always true.
No no no you got it all wrong.

Being gay means that you have an attraction to the same *** that you identify as. A transgendered person may or may not identify as being gay.

For example, I am transgendered female to male, and I am interested in male identified people, thus making me gay, since I am attracted to the same *** that I identify as. But a transgendered person could be interested in the opposite ***, or any ***, in which case they would not be considered gay.

Being transgendered is a part of someone's gender identity/expression. Being gay is a part of someone's sexual orientation.

I hope that helped to clear things up for you.

This only furthers my point....

You are talking about POST OP transsexuals that are attracted to their new ***........ this is the ultimate example of a person not accepting who they are. If you were a woman who became a man that is now attracted to men.... then you were someone who couldn't accept being a heterosexual woman to begin with. These are examples of people not knowing who they truly are or simply not accepting who they truly are. If a person gets a *** change just to be a homosexual in their new ***.... they need help.

I'd say it's selfish to hold them to your personal belief / generalization. You are not a psychologist. And any negative reaction or judgement from their surroundings concerning their identity would also come from a selfish or righteous perspective. It's up to the individual to do what they want with their bodies, in the end, it's their bodies.

But no its not simply a matter of an individual doing what they want with their bodies. Its a decision that affects literally everyone they associate with and changes how they were naturally born. Its an irreversible decision that you are essentially lying about for the rest of their lives. They are likely doing it because they are lonely and feel its their only way out. They should try to find someone of the same *** that makes them happy, rather than having as *** change.

 

[Zook1]

Wait... did you use yourself as an example because you're a transsexual?

No I'm not a tran.

 

[Forest]

This only furthers my point....

You are talking about POST OP transsexuals that are attracted to their new ***........ this is the ultimate example of a person not accepting who they are. If you were a woman who became a man that is now attracted to men.... then you were someone who couldn't accept being a heterosexual woman to begin with. These are examples of people not knowing who they truly are or simply not accepting who they truly are. If a person gets a *** change just to be a homosexual in their new ***.... they need help.



But no its not simply a matter of an individual doing what they want with their bodies. Its a decision that affects literally everyone they associate with and changes how they were naturally born. Its an irreversible decision that you are essentially lying about for the rest of their lives. They are likely doing it because they are lonely and feel its their only way out. They should try to find someone of the same *** that makes them happy, rather than having as *** change.

It's not their fault that it effects everyone they associate with. Everyone they associate with has free will to react to it either positively, or negatively. If they choose to react to it negatively, that is their decision, and thereby their fault.

 

[The Legendary Noob]

So transsexuals chop off their schlongs to feel better about themselves?
Well then how do they even feel pleasure?

It's painful to think that they'd have a fake hole and do fake moans once its being penetrated.

 

[Ldude]

I don't have kind views about it. Now please don't assume I'm intolerant, as I have nothing against gays and lesbians. But the way I see it, there is a huge difference between Homosexuals and people who get *** changes. A homosexual is someone who is embracing who the are and is proud of who they are. They are simply doing and acting the way they feel naturally. But a person that feels they need to get a *** change is not normal in the sense they can't accept who they truly are..... and that is a homosexual.

That wouldn't even be an assumption. You continue to show your intolerance in every statement you make hereafter. Being homosexual and transsexual are just as related as being heterosexual and transsexual. Homosexuality refers to sexual attraction ONLY. Being transgendered refers ONLY to one's gender identity. Someone who wants a *** change is simply fitting their body to match their identity, though not all transgendered individuals want one. Both want to embrace their identities, but it's people who say that they can only identify with the gender they were born as who hold them back.

They will tell you they don't feel comfortable in their own skin.... that they should have been born a man instead of a woman or vise versa...... but this is the ultimate form of selfishness. Its also the ultimate form of lying. These people need to realize they were born the way they were and the only way they can be truly happy is if they ACCEPT WHO THEY ARE and find someone who loves them FOR WHO THEY ARE.

Really? Because I think it's selfish to ask people to identify a certain way because you don't like their identity. They are not lying. Transmen are men and transwomen are women. These people were born the way they were-- transgendered. Getting a *** change or living as the gender one identifies with is not what causes unhappiness. Dysphoria is caused from being in the wrong body. Also, gender identity is not about finding love. It's about one's self. Some transgendered individuals are also aromantic and/or asexual. They do not want romantic or sexual love. They want foremost to live as the right gender to get rid of their dysphoria.

Again, I will say that getting a *** change is the ultimate form of deception. They may be doing it to feel better but it doesn't only affect them, it affects everyone around them. It forces the person to essentially lie to anyone and everyone they meet from that moment on. I see no reason in the world for a person to commit to such an extreme surgery. Its just proof that these people cannot accept who they are. What if they regret the decision? Can you imagine? You better believe that a decision like that doesn't affect only you, it affects your family, friends and everyone who knows you.

Nope, your opening that you're not intolerant is deception. Can you imagine if someone went their whole life with the wrong *** because they didn't decide to start transitioning? You know who it affects foremost? THE PERSON DIRECTLY INVOLVED. THE PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY TRANSGENDERED. You wanna know how it affects family and friends? They use different pronouns. If they're accepting they use different pronouns and that's it. Everyone can go back to business as usual.

I don't expect to be treated nicely with this post, as its a pretty serious matter, but this is something that I feel very strongly about. Thanks for reading as always!

You know who else feels strongly about it? Trans people.

 

[Floydical]

Transgenders believe they were born in the wrong body and attempt to change it (more than often it works properly and they go unnoticed. Its the ones who fail horribly tat you hear about on the internet). Homosexuals feel comfortable in their own body and love others of the same gender. There are some transgender who are not homosexual but that is more or less dependent on the person. They're NOT the same thing.

I never once said they were the same thing. I said that all transsexuals are homosexuals, but not all homosexuals are transsexuals. The point is that transsexuals wish to change sexes because they want to have *** with their same ***..... but as the *** they identity with.

Spoiler

That wouldn't even be an assumption. You continue to show your intolerance in every statement you make hereafter. Being homosexual and transsexual are just as related as being heterosexual and transsexual. Homosexuality refers to sexual attraction ONLY. Being transgendered refers ONLY to one's gender identity. Someone who wants a *** change is simply fitting their body to match their identity, though not all transgendered individuals want one. Both want to embrace their identities, but it's people who say that they can only identify with the gender they were born as who hold them back.


Really? Because I think it's selfish to ask people to identify a certain way because you don't like their identity. They are not lying. Transmen are men and transwomen are women. These people were born the way they were-- transgendered. Getting a *** change or living as the gender one identifies with is not what causes unhappiness. Dysphoria is caused from being in the wrong body. Also, gender identity is not about finding love. It's about one's self. Some transgendered individuals are also aromantic and/or asexual. They do not want romantic or sexual love. They want foremost to live as the right gender to get rid of their dysphoria.


Nope, your opening that you're not intolerant is deception. Can you imagine if someone went their whole life with the wrong *** because they didn't decide to start transitioning? You know who it affects foremost? THE PERSON DIRECTLY INVOLVED. THE PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY TRANSGENDERED. You wanna know how it affects family and friends? They use different pronouns. If they're accepting they use different pronouns and that's it. Everyone can go back to business as usual.


You know who else feels strongly about it? Trans people.

Valid arguments...... if you really believe there is such a thing as an asexual human. I can't possibly imagine there are people out there that have *** changes independent of sexual preference. You defending transsexuals not being homosexuals to start with is likened to defending pedophiles. Surely some pedophiles only have *** with children because they are easy victims, but surely many pedophiles are actually attracted to children. Even if pedophilia is completely natural, there is no way it is acceptable in society. No one in the world could defend pedophiles, whether they are that way naturally or they are simply seeking victims. Its simply not right.

I'm arguing that POST OP transsexuals are doing something humanely wrong. They are changing what god gave them. They are lying to anyone they ever associate with in the future. They will surely cause rifts in family and friends, even if some of those loved ones are too nice to show they have a problem with it. Gender identity issues are unarguably real, but most likely these are associated with liking the same *** to start with. I'm stating that perhaps gender confused transsexuals could be happy homosexuals if they take a different route in life. I likely went too far bringing pedophiles into the issue.... but right and wrong do play a part here.

 

[Bantos]

Being a homosexual and being a transgender are completely different things.
A transgender feels like they're in a body of a wrong ***, they're not themselves as their biological gender.
A homosexual person feels like being the *** they are, and are just attracted to the same ***.

We should also remember that we live for our selves, not for out family or people around us.
I also have no idea what is your problem with this, since a transgender person has nothing to do with you. Say if a transgender was going to do something bad to you, or to your family, then I'd understand.

Live and let live I say.