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only one thing - for those who belive god exist , dont make ques. on them for his existence ...... its their belief thats why they do prayer ......

if you dont have belief in these thing no problem but dont make either arguement or discussion on it ...... please its a request bcoz i do believe in god

Any system of control should be ridiculed or else you'll end up in a dictatorship soon enough or similar situations in which provocation of thought is restricted. Religious people should just sit down if they don't have an argument and stop claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. The word 'holy' translated into straightforward no-bullsh1tness means; Something you cannot question. why? because you just cannot.
 
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Any system of control should be ridiculed or else you'll end up in a dictatorship soon enough or similar situations in which provocation of thought is restricted. Religious people should just sit down if they don't have an argument and stop claiming to have a monopoly on the truth. The word 'holy' translated into straightforward no-bullsh1tness means; Something you cannot question. why? because you just cannot.
Your statement above is wrong on soo many levels. First of all, dictatorships has its benefits and cons; like democracies. Dictatorships allows the person in power to do stuff that democracies can't do. Yes you don't have to agree with dictatorships fully, but most modern democratic societies have governments that have a mixture of ideas of both anarchy and totalitarianism. If people believe in dictatorships, that is their opinion. Yes you can criticize them; but not ridicule them for believing in that ideology. That's called bashing. Ironicly, you state about the provaction of thoughts, and yet you tell religious people to shut up? The irony is real. You talk about the word 'holy', where did you pull that stuff out of? Your a$$? Must of searched deep. Lmao. Here is the REAL definition of the word holy:
ho·lyˈhōlē/
adjective1.dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred."the Holy Bible"synonyms:sacred,*consecrated,*hallowed,sanctified,*sacrosanct,*venerated,revered,*divine,*religious,*blessed,dedicated"a Jewish holy place"
2.dated humorousused in exclamations of surprise or dismay."holy smoke!"

That's the real meaning of holy. Apart from that, islam tells its people to question itself. It tells its people to research. To read. To write. And you say that religion restricts thought? Yes it is true that I can not criticize my religion; but that's due to the fact I perceive my religion to be correct. I agree with my religion. I agree to its opinions. Thats why I can't criticize my faith. Who criticizes there own opinions? Lmao. I can not criticize god; because he is all knowning. If he's all knowning; he's also the god that would know best of my situation. He will lead me to the path were it will ulitimatly be the best for me. I can not criticize someone that is superior in every possible way to me. How can anyone criticize someone with that capability that you and I cannot comprehend?
 

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I got a question for you. If I create a box. Does that mean that box has a creator? If I create the light bulb does that mean the light bulb has a creator? Then I ask you, WHO created the humans? How did humans come into existence? How did life come into existence? We just magically appeared? on a planet that was coming to the PERFECT temperature, with the PERFECT distance away from the sun, with the PERFECT atmosphere, with the PERFECT oxygen levels? Everything went PERFECTLY fine. Everything went PERFECTLY safe? Everything went PERFECTLY in sequence? with the PERFECT sync? with the PERFECT gravity of the planet? I doubt that there is anything on the physical universe that can create such existence. My question is why is it so hard to not believe in god? Look around you. Everything just miraculously came to be. Our universe, wait why talk about the universe when I can talk about the planet. Oh wait why talk about the planet when I can talk about the human body. Oh why talk about a human body when I can talk about a SINGLE CELL. ANYTHING that HUMANS have made is nothing as close to being as complex as the cell. What is science? Is it a explanations of everything based on what we can see? What we can touch? What we can Hear? What we can smell? What the 5 humans senses sense? That is what science defines. Explaining phenomenon's through the 5 human senses. But most of the stuff we have theories about are not adhering to the 5 human senses.

Heres something for people like you. God tested Humanity. How you say? In the Quran, he says Dont even try to make a human, try to REPLICATE a SINGLE CELL. We have the knowledge, but yet we cant even replicate it? We cant even create something so simple? A single cell that is the is reason why we exist. A cell that contains DNA that is more complex then anything that a human has made. That scientist did a 10 year study on it and when they thought they knew everything about the DNA, they were once again mind blown. To this day they dont know everything about the DNA. So my question to YOU is that PLEASE try to disprove the QURAN by GODS test to humans. Please try to replicate/create a single CELL.

I'm not saying that you're wrong that God exists. But I just have to really point out that saying "How can there
just happen to be a perfect world just the perfect distance away from earth, etc." points to God having spontaneously
existed or having always existed really sounds as ridiculous as the world randomly coming into existence. By your logic,
God must have a creator too, and since a lot of people insist that God is PERFECT, then gee, that must mean that
someone must've created him because he exists, and he is perfect. And then we have an infinite line of creators leading
to nowhere. Furthermore, saying that the perfection of the world demonstrates that there is God is wrong considering
the world is hardly perfect. There's so many diseases, variations of climate, and immoral occurrences all of the time.
The world is nowhere near perfect, and having the right conditions of life was bound to happen based on probability
considering that there exists trillions of solar systems for one to have one planet get it right.

It'd be like saying that if a game had a .00000000000001% chance drop rate for an item, and I killed the boss
1000000000000000000 times, and I got it once, it must mean that God exists. After so many possible times I could've
gotten the drop, it makes sense that it would happen at least once.

Ultimately, I'm not trying to refute your belief in God. It's always nice to pray to God and hope that he exists.
And he really might exist. I won't knock that possibility. I'm personally iffy. But there is no absolute sureness
that he does exist, and your reasoning is extremely flawed.

Edit: Forgot to address your last point. Just because the technology we have today
isn't capable of enough doesn't mean we will never be capable of doing so. There is already
genetic cloning. While making a cell out of nothing living would certainly be impossible
today, it doesn't mean it's that complex that it had to be god. There are hypothesis
on how life could've formed although I always was irked by the contradiction that cells
must come from cells so then the first cell is a contradiction of the law by supposedly
the right conditions can cause the formation. But anyways, my point is that humans
will likely eventually gain the ability to create cells. Two hundred years ago,
people said it was impossible to get to the moon. Now people are there. Creating the cell
could very well be a similar situation.
 
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Your statement above is wrong on soo many levels. First of all, dictatorships has its benefits and cons; like democracies. Dictatorships allows the person in power to do stuff that democracies can't do. Yes you don't have to agree with dictatorships fully, but most modern democratic societies have governments that have a mixture of ideas of both anarchy and totalitarianism. If people believe in dictatorships, that is their opinion. Yes you can criticize them; but not ridicule them for believing in that ideology. That's called bashing. Ironicly, you state about the provaction of thoughts, and yet you tell religious people to shut up? The irony is real. You talk about the word 'holy', where did you pull that stuff out of? Your a$$? Must of searched deep. Lmao. Here is the REAL definition of the word holy:
ho·lyˈhōlē/
adjective1.dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred."the Holy Bible"synonyms:sacred,*consecrated,*hallowed,sanctified,*sacrosanct,*venerated,revered,*divine,*religious,*blessed,dedicated"a Jewish holy place"
2.dated humorousused in exclamations of surprise or dismay."holy smoke!"

That's the real meaning of holy. Apart from that, islam tells its people to question itself. It tells its people to research. To read. To write. And you say that religion restricts thought? Yes it is true that I can not criticize my religion; but that's due to the fact I perceive my religion to be correct. I agree with my religion. I agree to its opinions. Thats why I can't criticize my faith. Who criticizes there own opinions? Lmao. I can not criticize god; because he is all knowning. If he's all knowning; he's also the god that would know best of my situation. He will lead me to the path were it will ulitimatly be the best for me. I can not criticize someone that is superior in every possible way to me. How can anyone criticize someone with that capability that you and I cannot comprehend?

Oh boy Lol, seems I've just been dragged into the rampant degenerate arguments on this thread.

1. Dictatorships have their benefits for the ruler, not the ones that are ruled.
2. Ridicule is upheld by freedom of speech. It doesn't have to have hatred in it to be classified as ridiculing something or someone. What I said did not hold any hatred in it, it simply pointed out something I find ridiculous and mind-narrowing. In a society where freedom of speech is upheld, there will always be opinions that upset people and so be it. The line is drawn at violence and hatred. Wether you like it or not, 'bashing' is still part of freedom of speech. Don't like it? Come up with an argument or learn to be silent.

I am silent when people ridicule me and my esoteric interests.

3. Do I seriously have to tell you that the word 'holy' as I described it, explains the power behind it. By claiming something to be holy, you condemn anyone that dares disrespect that unrational, intangible holiness. It becomes a tool to restrict critics. Anyone knows the definite meaning of it in the dictionary, dimwit. I got the 'holy' part from this TED talk:

4. I have many muslim friends and none of them look at their faith from another perspective. Nonetheless, there is one muslim friend of mine of who is interested in esoterism and keeps an eye on numerology and such. But that's a curious individual and not in the slightest a practitioner of Islam.(other than doing ramadan)
Please don't drag me into simpleton debates any further. I'll entertain one more post but keep it short.
 
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I got a question for you. If I create a box. Does that mean that box has a creator? If I create the light bulb does that mean the light bulb has a creator? Then I ask you, WHO created the humans? How did humans come into existence? How did life come into existence? We just magically appeared? on a planet that was coming to the PERFECT temperature, with the PERFECT distance away from the sun, with the PERFECT atmosphere, with the PERFECT oxygen levels? Everything went PERFECTLY fine. Everything went PERFECTLY safe? Everything went PERFECTLY in sequence? with the PERFECT sync? with the PERFECT gravity of the planet? I doubt that there is anything on the physical universe that can create such existence. My question is why is it so hard to not believe in god? Look around you. Everything just miraculously came to be. Our universe, wait why talk about the universe when I can talk about the planet. Oh wait why talk about the planet when I can talk about the human body. Oh why talk about a human body when I can talk about a SINGLE CELL. ANYTHING that HUMANS have made is nothing as close to being as complex as the cell. What is science? Is it a explanations of everything based on what we can see? What we can touch? What we can Hear? What we can smell? What the 5 humans senses sense? That is what science defines. Explaining phenomenon's through the 5 human senses. But most of the stuff we have theories about are not adhering to the 5 human senses.

Heres something for people like you. God tested Humanity. How you say? In the Quran, he says Dont even try to make a human, try to REPLICATE a SINGLE CELL. We have the knowledge, but yet we cant even replicate it? We cant even create something so simple? A single cell that is the is reason why we exist. A cell that contains DNA that is more complex then anything that a human has made. That scientist did a 10 year study on it and when they thought they knew everything about the DNA, they were once again mind blown. To this day they dont know everything about the DNA. So my question to YOU is that PLEASE try to disprove the QURAN by GODS test to humans. Please try to replicate/create a single CELL.

1. Who created God then? He just magically appearing is fine, but humans developing from extinct animals isn't?

2. We didn't just pop up on a planet that just so happened to have all of these perfect things. Life happened on Earth BECAUSE Earth has the right conditions. The earth is to the universe what a single electron in your body is to the solar system. The nearest star will take us thousands of years to get to, millions if I'm not remembering correctly. And you really think Earth is the only planet that has developed life?
 

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From what I see people usually think that a God exists. What I don't understand is why ? The concept of God has never been proven with proof. It's a belief. Belief - confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof:faith. People usually think that since Science doesn't have the answers to everything,then God did it which is The God of Gaps argument,since we don't know why or how something happens whether it be the creation of the universe or morality it must've been God which doesn't make much sense when you really think about it. That's what religion does it doesn't change it's stance and think it's infallible. Unlike Science which has admitted many occasion where it's been wrong.

How can one prove a God exists ? It's something man made it's a primitive concept,it's never been proven it's just a belief it's not anything factual why can't people understand this.

There are many ways we can explain that God exists, how he is around us and how we can justify our belief. The first example would be creation and how it works. Everything around us is in perfect harmony, even we are in harmony. The human body and its processes, the plants and how they make oxygen, as the computer enters what I type on the keyboard. God has made everything in harmony and all creation has been made to be in sync with everything it will interact with. Another example would be our mind compared to God’s mind. We are not able to comprehend how God is, how he works nor how he thinks. We cannot think how God’s mind thinks, nor can we predict what he is trying to do if he puts a hardship in our life because his mind is infinite, he can think on a scale far surpassed the human mind, this is how our mind is finite. This is also shown how God came down to earth in the form of a human in order to be able to tell us how we can be proper Christians. This is also supported in John 13:7 Jesus replied, "You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand.", after washing the disciples feet. Another example would be that we shouldn’t be the ones searching for God, the only way to get to God is by him finding us. To be able to be seen to God we must be christ like and follow the Lord’s commands as is told in the bible. Christianity requires believing without seeing, but believing through faith. Our reasons to believe is explained in the bible, and reading the bible and understanding it would only increase our faith. As a final example we can take the story of the blacksmith, the basic moral of the story is that we shouldn’t lose our faith in God nor should we worship another God. In any matter or hardship we face it should also be counted as a blessing, this basic teaching is also supported in Romans 8:18 “The pain you have been feeling cannot compare to the joy that is coming.” Through persistency and practicing Christianity we are able to become closer to God, and be christlike. This is my point of view. Please don't think I want to convert anyone, only my belief. Sorry if I offended anyone. Literally just made this account because I saw this post!
 

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Its not that life just popped up out of no where. See evolution is wrong... How do you get a hippo from a whale? Wtf? No matter how many years, a hippo will never turn into a whale! Dogs can be artificially breed, but they only make dogs, NO NEW SPECIES. A mule is made from a female horse and a male donkey, yet the mule is sterile, nothing further with that. Literally humans didn't come from the dinosaurs. Artifical insemination shows that evolution can't happen. You will never get a human from a chimpanzee, sure DNA is pretty much similar. But talk to me when you see a human being birthed from a chimpanzee. See in the hindu religion, a painting from over 5 million years ago shows extraterrestial life coming on the earth. Painting is still in either sri lanka, or north part of India if I remember correctly. DNA isn't something so simple Darwin and other scientists know 100% about. No way. How can you possibly get a hippo from a whale? They are closley related as of in DNA, doesn't prove the fact that a hippo gave birth to a whale, or vice versa... Whatever the case, evolution isn't something that is 100% true. In any matter evolution is false on too many levels to explain. @Riker Slade
 

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Why people believe that there is something above that literally sits there and judges you is beyond me, might as well believe in teenage girl as your almighty deity as they both do one and the same.

But nah I respect those that believe in a god but don't follow their religions every whim. Those that wont even stay out past curfew in fear they'll be eternally sent to damnnation are not my type of people Lol
 

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1. Who created God then? He just magically appearing is fine, but humans developing from extinct animals isn't?

2. We didn't just pop up on a planet that just so happened to have all of these perfect things. Life happened on Earth BECAUSE Earth has the right conditions. The earth is to the universe what a single electron in your body is to the solar system. The nearest star will take us thousands of years to get to, millions if I'm not remembering correctly. And you really think Earth is the only planet that has developed life?

Asking where god came from makes no sense. It just creates an endless cycle.
 

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Oh boy Lol, seems I've just been dragged into the rampant degenerate arguments on this thread.

1. Dictatorships have their benefits for the ruler, not the ones that are ruled.
2. Ridicule is upheld by freedom of speech. It doesn't have to have hatred in it to be classified as ridiculing something or someone. What I said did not hold any hatred in it, it simply pointed out something I find ridiculous and mind-narrowing. In a society where freedom of speech is upheld, there will always be opinions that upset people and so be it. The line is drawn at violence and hatred. Wether you like it or not, 'bashing' is still part of freedom of speech. Don't like it? Come up with an argument or learn to be silent.

I am silent when people ridicule me and my esoteric interests.

3. Do I seriously have to tell you that the word 'holy' as I described it, explains the power behind it. By claiming something to be holy, you condemn anyone that dares disrespect that unrational, intangible holiness. It becomes a tool to restrict critics. Anyone knows the definite meaning of it in the dictionary, dimwit. I got the 'holy' part from this TED talk:

4. I have many muslim friends and none of them look at their faith from another perspective. Nonetheless, there is one muslim friend of mine of who is interested in esoterism and keeps an eye on numerology and such. But that's a curious individual and not in the slightest a practitioner of Islam.(other than doing ramadan)
Please don't drag me into simpleton debates any further. I'll entertain one more post but keep it short.

1. Dictatorships is a form of government. Just like democracy. With the same logic I can say that democracy benefits its leader. What you are stating is a completely different issue. What you are talking about is corruption. For example, both ideologies dont focus on its people, but its country. Its called national interest. Hitler, took Germany out of the worst possible economy that a country can face; and turned Germany into a Superpower. Same thing with Stalin. This is basic knowledge about politics and economies.

2. Why are you talking about freedom of speech? What are you talking about. All I said was that it was ironic that you tell people who express that they believe in god to shut up and sit down because that religion is limiting thoughts; but yet your trying to limit thoughts by telling others to shut up. Makes sense?

3.All I stated was the word 'holy'. I gave a definition of holy after you stated its definition. Holy is an adjective. Adjective is used to describe something. Holy is a describer. So, how can you question something you describe? I dont get it. I dont understand what you are trying to say.

4.Well, you really cant judge a Muslim's based on your friend. How about do some research on prophet Muhammad[P.B.U.H] and then base your opinion on Muslims; since he was the idle Muslim.
 

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I got a question for you. If I create a box. Does that mean that box has a creator? If I create the light bulb does that mean the light bulb has a creator? Then I ask you, WHO created the humans? How did humans come into existence? How did life come into existence? We just magically appeared? on a planet that was coming to the PERFECT temperature, with the PERFECT distance away from the sun, with the PERFECT atmosphere, with the PERFECT oxygen levels? Everything went PERFECTLY fine. Everything went PERFECTLY safe? Everything went PERFECTLY in sequence? with the PERFECT sync? with the PERFECT gravity of the planet? I doubt that there is anything on the physical universe that can create such existence. My question is why is it so hard to not believe in god? Look around you. Everything just miraculously came to be. Our universe, wait why talk about the universe when I can talk about the planet. Oh wait why talk about the planet when I can talk about the human body. Oh why talk about a human body when I can talk about a SINGLE CELL. ANYTHING that HUMANS have made is nothing as close to being as complex as the cell. What is science? Is it a explanations of everything based on what we can see? What we can touch? What we can Hear? What we can smell? What the 5 humans senses sense? That is what science defines. Explaining phenomenon's through the 5 human senses. But most of the stuff we have theories about are not adhering to the 5 human senses.

Heres something for people like you. God tested Humanity. How you say? In the Quran, he says Dont even try to make a human, try to REPLICATE a SINGLE CELL. We have the knowledge, but yet we cant even replicate it? We cant even create something so simple? A single cell that is the is reason why we exist. A cell that contains DNA that is more complex then anything that a human has made. That scientist did a 10 year study on it and when they thought they knew everything about the DNA, they were once again mind blown. To this day they dont know everything about the DNA. So my question to YOU is that PLEASE try to disprove the QURAN by GODS test to humans. Please try to replicate/create a single CELL.

So, who created god then? He must have been created? I mean, what preceded his existence? Also, we don't know everything about the universe we live in, and for all we know, there IS another planet out there with life.
 

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Whos not to say that time itself isnt god considdering entire universe built up from the passage of time and space dust and at the same time science could be the same thing as religion cause its the study of god creation in the long run could just be that the holy books got convoluted cause they were made by MAN. when you think about it time is probably the oldest thing in the universe itself as well as several laws that acompany it such as every action has an equal and opposite reaction and there are never times were nothing is happening so there fore there must always be something happening which could of led to the creation of dust which led to the creation of everything else by comparison.
 

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OP failed to provide much evidence to disprove god and loses this debate IMO. BTW I'm just a bystander.

and...although I agree that there is no way to disprove god..Yowyan held his own and deserves some rep.
 

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The creation itself is enough evidence of God's existence. (see Romans 1:20-21)
God expects us to have faith in Him.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." (Hebrews 11:6 NIV)

God has promised to give eternal life to those who do His will.
"The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever." (1 John 2:17 NIV)

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1. Dictatorships is a form of government. Just like democracy. With the same logic I can say that democracy benefits its leader. What you are stating is a completely different issue. What you are talking about is corruption. For example, both ideologies dont focus on its people, but its country. Its called national interest. Hitler, took Germany out of the worst possible economy that a country can face; and turned Germany into a Superpower. Same thing with Stalin. This is basic knowledge about politics and economies.

2. Why are you talking about freedom of speech? What are you talking about. All I said was that it was ironic that you tell people who express that they believe in god to shut up and sit down because that religion is limiting thoughts; but yet your trying to limit thoughts by telling others to shut up. Makes sense?

3.All I stated was the word 'holy'. I gave a definition of holy after you stated its definition. Holy is an adjective. Adjective is used to describe something. Holy is a describer. So, how can you question something you describe? I dont get it. I dont understand what you are trying to say.

4.Well, you really cant judge a Muslim's based on your friend. How about do some research on prophet Muhammad[P.B.U.H] and then base your opinion on Muslims; since he was the idle Muslim.

omg you simpletons.

1. In a dictatorship, you have to watch what you say. Your freedom of speech is restricted. Criticising a dictator and a religion could have the same repercussions for an individual as they're both seen as absolute. Try to read through the lines so you get the point, please. You talk about Hitler's economic achievements and forget to mention that Hitler drove millions of people to their death and controlled many young men as puppets.

Religion is just an expansionist, political tool. Both Islam and Christianity were tools to breed a standardised, collective mass of the same degenerate views as to control that mass of people. The first few popes in biblical times waged wars to conquer land and estates and nowadays the Vatican owns enormous amounts of estates. And how do you confuse the weak-minded into obedience? Use a core of truth in a beautiful lie so that they'll always come back to that small truth whenever they question their belief. It's a well-thought out mind game loop that will perpetuate the same degenerate thinking. I take religious scripts very seriously as there are scientific truths and astrology based stories found in it. However, I do not condone the restriction of the mind by religious and cultural stupidity. (you prob didn't get any of that, did you)

2. what?.. way to stupify the argument. Lol Anywho, I said what I said because when religious people want to defend their belief, they get ''offended'' which goes back to the 'holy' scenario. Instead of thinking up a legitimate argument, they want to shut critics up by saying they're offended. I never said I'd force anyone to shut up, I said ''they should be silent if they have no argument''. Way to go to twist my words in your benefit. Here, you see it clearly in the eyes of a christian and muslim how they want to hang this woman who dares criticise their illogical views:

3. And you weren't listening. I shared with you the real underlying meaning of the word 'holy'. Not the immediate description from the dictionary. Religion has certain ideas at the heart of it which we call 'sacred or 'holy'. What it means is; Here is an idea or notion that you're not allowed to say anything bad about. You're just not. why? Because you're not. Get it? :)

4. I don't need to look up Prophet Muhammad's words. I have morals of my own and don't need an ancient book to tell me how to be a good person. Also, muslims keep saying Islam is peaceful. Let me respond to that. First of all, I always defend muslims whenever they're called terrorists. I hate that. The imperialists from the wests have terrorised more muslims than the other way around. You'll always find me backing up the muslims on that one. On the other hand, Islam is not peaceful. period. It is the individuals that call themselves muslims who are either peaceful or hostile. Most are peaceful. At its heart, it is not peaceful. Like I said, it's a tool for expansionist, political goals. Go look at the beginning of Islam around the 7th century and how it spread. We as a species should go back to judging a person by his individual traits, and stop seeing his religion as part of his nature. You don't represent Islam. History represents it. You could follow the Qu'ran in a way I would. I simply take from it what seems logical and elevates my thinking, and try to apply it into my everyday habits. Other than that, it's completely useless other than a means to control.
 
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From what I see people usually think that a God exists. What I don't understand is why ? The concept of God has never been proven with proof. It's a belief. Belief - confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof:faith. People usually think that since Science doesn't have the answers to everything,then God did it which is The God of Gaps argument,since we don't know why or how something happens whether it be the creation of the universe or morality it must've been God which doesn't make much sense when you really think about it. That's what religion does it doesn't change it's stance and think it's infallible. Unlike Science which has admitted many occasion where it's been wrong.

How can one prove a God exists ? It's something man made it's a primitive concept,it's never been proven it's just a belief it's not anything factual why can't people understand this.
Nor has the concept of God ben disproved either, and that scares non believer that they may have to acer for wrongs they done. It’s a matter of belief. Beside it looks like you haven’t read Aristotle and Aquinas’s on the existence of God.
 

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What you're saying is completely true. But irrelevant.



Then why do people claim it's true if they don't have proof ?

Also you can't prove a negative.
Fact you can’t prove a negative, use logic.
 
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