Kishi's horrible writing - Sakura

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She can't shine more than Naruto or Sasuke and she did get way stronger so in a way she did overcome the lack of power she had in part 1.

She didn't have to outshine them, just at least be top-tier. However, she was shown to be slower than base Naruto. Taking like a day to get to the VOTE. Kishi made her into a remarkable failure.
 

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She didn't have to outshine them, just at least be top-tier. However, she was shown to be slower than base Naruto in chapter 698. Taking like a day to get to the VOTE. Kishi made her into a remarkable failure.

Did you just compare Naruto and Sasuke's god speeds with Sakura and Kakashi?not to mention she was supporting Kakashi while trying to get themselves there which slowed em down?You serious? :l
 
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Did you just compare Naruto and Sasuke's god speeds with Sakura and Kakashi?not to mention she was supporting Kakashi while trying to get themselves there which slowed em down?You serious? :l

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I have yet to see a shonen manga out of the 3-4 I read in which a female heroine caught up power scaling wise to the MC and his rival.Generally girls dont get spotlight in powerups in shonen

Do most of them have Sakura's goal?

Did you just compare Naruto and Sasuke's god speeds with Sakura and Kakashi?not to mention she was supporting Kakashi while trying to get themselves there which slowed em down?You serious? :l

Base Naruto got there in like minutes. Why would Sakura who has super strength be greatly slowed down by carrying Kakashi? Tsunade left up a giant knife.
 
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Base Naruto got there in like minutes. Why would Sakura who has super strength be greatly slowed down by carrying Kakashi? Tsunade left up a giant knife.

she had wasted almost all her chakra and yin seal in saving Sasuke from the other dimension with Obito and woke up from a brutal genjutsu

She could never catch up to Indra and Ashura's reincarnations at the same level
 

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Do most of them have Sakura's goal?

Nope.Doesnt change the fact that they are weaker than the MC by a longshot and in some even more pathetic

Base Naruto got there in like minutes. Why would Sakura who has super strength be greatly slowed down by carrying Kakashi? Tsunade left up a giant knife.

Base Naruto could beat Sakura.Not sure what your point is.Naruto is a highly super dooper overpowered character at the end of the manga alternating between the tree and the battlefield several times in seconds in base form.Heck in The Last a KCM Naruto took down a Tenseigan user (equivalent of a Rinnegan) when he was not even using his full power.In other words what are minutes and seconds for Naruto and Sasuke translates into hours for anyone who is NOT given OP powerups

Just because she can throw OP punches doesnt mean she is Superman.They were all exhausted after the War and Kaguya fight and Sasuke had just put her in a violent genjutsu which must have drained her strength in addition to supporting Kakashi
 

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she had wasted almost all her chakra and yin seal in saving Sasuke from the other dimension with Obito and woke up from a brutal genjutsu

She could never catch up to Indra and Ashura's reincarnations at the same level

She had half of days of rest, so she should have plenty of chakra. Plus that Genjutsu wasn't brutal. What Itachi did to Sasuke in part 1 was brutal. It put him in the Hospital, while Sakura woke up like it was nothing.

Nope.Doesnt change the fact that they are weaker than the MC by a longshot and in some even more pathetic

Base Naruto could beat Sakura.Not sure what your point is.Naruto is a highly super dooper overpowered character at the end of the manga alternating between the tree and the battlefield several times in seconds in base form.Heck in The Last a KCM Naruto took down a Tenseigan user (equivalent of a Rinnegan) when he was not even using his full power.In other words what are minutes and seconds for Naruto and Sasuke translates into hours for anyone who is NOT given OP powerups

Just because she can throw OP punches doesnt mean she is Superman.They were all exhausted after the War and Kaguya fight and Sasuke had just put her in a violent genjutsu which must have drained her strength in addition to supporting Kakashi

The fact that Kishi give her that goal to catch up to her teammates means that Sakura was trolled. Kishi didn't even have her admit inferiority like Vegeta in Dragon Ball, but the opposite.

Read above.
 
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She had half of days of rest and that Genjutsu wasn't brutal. What Itachi did to Sasuke in part 1 was brutal. It put him in the Hospital, while Sakura woke up like it was nothing.

There is a difference between a Tsukuyomi and a normal genjutsu :|

And yeah it was brutal.Are you saying simulating a murder in your brain by stabbing a hand through your chest drawing blood from the one you love isn't brutal?You got high standards sir



The fact that Kishi give her that goal to catch up to her teammates means that Sakura was trolled. Kishi didn't even have her admitted inferiority like Vegeta in Dragon Ball, but the opposite.

Read above.
you just made my point for me
Vegeta always dreamt and was outspoken on multiple occasions of surpassing Goku but it never happened.Does it mean Toriyama trolled Vegeta?Lol
 
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When someone brings up the "bad writing" excuse, this is what they really mean:

"I have to make some kind of criticism of the show or otherwise people will get the idea that I like it too much".
 

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There is a difference between a Tsukuyomi and a normal genjutsu :|

And yeah it was brutal.Are you saying simulating a murder in your brain by the one you love isn't brutal?You got high standards sir

Sakura was stabbed in the gut for real by Madara not too long ago. So an imaginary one should have been nothing.

Vegeta always dreamt and was outspoken on multiple occasions of surpassing Goku but it never happened.Does it mean Toriyama trolled Vegeta?Lol

As I already said, Vegeta admitted Goku was better than him. So he wasn't trolled. Sakura on the other hand thought she caught up to Naruto.
 

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Sakura was stabbed in the gut for real by Madara not too long ago. So an imaginary one should have been nothing.

This proves you have no knowledge of both Tsukuyomi and Genjutsu

It has already been known in the manga that genjutsu as a form of mental torture is more dangerous and has a lasting impact moreso than physical attacks leaving scars on the victim hence being used commonly by top class ninjas like Itachi.A short 1 second tsukuyomi by Itachi to Kakashi knocked him out for a week.

So getting stabbed by the one you love mentally is more dangerous than actually getting stabbed by the enemy and note that genjutsu also simulates real pain so she felt her death in her mind



As I already said, Vegeta admitted Goku was better than him. So he wasn't trolled. Sakura on the other hand thought she caught up to Naruto.

Happened in the last episode of DBZ.After all this time of bragging of being superior to Goku,being the prince of saiyans and Goku was a "low level clown" as he put it this heel turn definitely shut down his character for me.

And if you want to know the definition of a character being trolled look at Gohan and Vegeta in DBGT.thats the most epic from of trolling ever seen
 

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This proves you have no knowledge of both Tsukuyomi and Genjutsu

It has already been known in the manga that genjutsu as a form of mental torture is more dangerous and has a lasting impact moreso than physical attacks leaving scars on the victim hence being used commonly by top class ninjas like Itachi.A short 1 second tsukuyomi by Itachi to Kakashi knocked him out for a week.

So getting stabbed by the one you love mentally is more dangerous than actually getting stabbed by the enemy and note that genjutsu also simulates real pain so she felt her death in her mind

Itachi tortured Kakashi for 3 days straight non-stop. Huge difference.

Happened in the last episode of DBZ.After all this time of bragging of being superior to Goku,being the prince of saiyans and Goku was a "low level clown" as he put it this heel turn definitely shut down his character for me.

And if you want to know the definition of a character being trolled look at Gohan and Vegeta in DBGT.thats the most epic from of trolling ever seen

GT isn't canon. So who cares?
 

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I think the reasons you listed are correct. Yes, Sakura is a terrible character. Like you said: She is selfish, a copy of Tsunade, no complexity or backstory, and she has no influence on the main story at all.

My main problem for me, lies with her annoying perseverance for Sasuke. This has been going on for 699 long ass chapters and it is still the same old thing. This message of "falling in love" with a guy that, from the beginning you thought looked sexy or good looking despite that same guy that you are in love with belittling you and treating you like you are worthless does not deserve to be taken seriously. This is the main reason why I find Sakura's character to be a joke. You want to cut your friendship and/or relationship with one, if not, your best friend all for a boy that you hardly even know speaks ignorance for this girl. Yes, she was very young, but as soon as she became a Genin, or even before that, she still had this mindset of "Sasuke will be all mine and I will always be with Sasuke" as if she was hungry for ***. This is ugly, and I fail to see how people can even overlook this an still act as if she isn't selfish. That is the very definition of selfish. The only reason why she started acting nicer to Naruto after her rude remark was because Sasuke scolded her ass and set her ass straight. If it wasn't for that she would still be mean to Naruto. Like it or not.

Then we come to her combat/power/fighting style which in, and of itself is lame. Tsunade is the only one who made this style look cool. She was the one to introduce it and bring hype to her strength. Why in the living hell do we need another person using Byakugo just because Kishi got lazy and didn't want to give her Genjutsu feats or some nature affinity to work on? I'll tell you why. Because Kishi never gave a damn about her, and he has a good reason not to. Why should anyone give a lick of care for someone like her, knowing how low and bad you developed her character? Goals? Did she even have any goals? Can you name me at least one goal that didn't involve something with Sasuke?

Does she have any goals for herself besides wanting to get inside of Sasuke's pants? Yeah, you probably couldn't name me anything.

She is not a relevant character for the plot. Kishi could have literally killed her off and the story would have not moved at all. This is how irrelevant she is.

I'll just cut this straight. Sakura has never been interesting at all to me. She will never be interesting to me because the manga is now over.
 

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Itachi tortured Kakashi for 3 days straight non-stop. Huge difference.
That was only one second in the real world and it had him hospitalised for a near week.In this case it was a normal genjutsu AFTER they had fought a goddess and a war and in the end she felt the pain of death something Kakashi didnt mind you.Its expected for her to be tired



GT isn't canon. So who cares?
Dont even need to resort to GT.Gohan was hyped up to have a lot of mysterious power and hinted at surpassing Goku and saving him a lot of times.After he became SSJ2 he got trolled so hard he couldnt beat a villain which SSJ2 Vegeta could have destroyed with ease.

He was brutally trolled when he became a mystic and was acting all tough with Buu with those smirks until Buu evolved and kicked him so hard it was hilarious.Same goes for Vegeta but too tired to explain
 

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Sakura does a lack a lot of development in many ways, including her background, fights and Kishi should've portrayed her feeligs in a better way or at least write a better reason for them. However, I still think she is great for overcoming her lack of power, the fact that she didn't belong to any prestigious clan and because she was confident and a hard worker. In part 1, I think the fact that she is mean to Naruto and selfish is just natural for her age and especially if she didn't share the same traumatic background as both Sasuke and Naruto, she is just a spoiled girl. In school, "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down" and children can be really cruel to the weakest ones. Sakura was just a representation of the village's reactions towards Naruto and we all know 12 year old girls always fangirl over the coolest guy. Even so, at least she managed to mature to someone selfless who would care a lot about others and Naruto, someone who still hopes and believes in the good in Sasuke and she does have awesome skills. :)
The fact that you brought powermeans you did not understand the thread. This is about how the character is written and what importance do they have in the story. Power has got nothing to do with that directly UNLESS YOUR HOAL REQUIRES YOU TO BE POWERFUL. She has no goal, she has no motivation , she motivates nobody. Power does not mean a thing. This is about character
 

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Why is Sakura .. topic of the day ?
 

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She could have been better written but Hinata,and other K11 has the same problem...
 

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That was only one second in the real world and it had him hospitalised for a near week.In this case it was a normal genjutsu AFTER they had fought a goddess and a war and in the end she felt the pain of death something Kakashi didnt mind you.Its expected for her to be tired




Dont even need to resort to GT.Gohan was hyped up to have a lot of mysterious power and hinted at surpassing Goku and saving him a lot of times.After he became SSJ2 he got trolled so hard he couldnt beat a villain which SSJ2 Vegeta could have destroyed with ease.

He was brutally trolled when he became a mystic and was acting all tough with Buu with those smirks until Buu evolved and kicked him so hard it was hilarious.Same goes for Vegeta but too tired to explain
Vegeta has been constantly developed, till the last of GT.
 

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The fact that you brought powermeans you did not understand the thread. This is about how the character is written and what importance do they have in the story. Power has got nothing to do with that directly UNLESS YOUR HOAL REQUIRES YOU TO BE POWERFUL. She has no goal, she has no motivation , she motivates nobody. Power does not mean a thing. This is about character

More like you completely failed to understand how the character is written. She definitely could be written better but she is not that bad as you claim repeatedly. Plus she is the most developed female in the manga.

Sakura's goal was to be nin. She is. Then her next goal was to be a medic and she became an excellent one. She was able to create antidote for Sasori's poison after extracting and analyzing it (none in the Sand village could do it) and then heal people on the field using her seal and summon. That shows how skilled she became at it.

One of her other goals is to be able to keep up with two of the most overpowered people in the verse who managed to defeat the ultimate villain. What's wrong with that goal?

Both her team mates had a head start since the day they were born-- One had sharingan and another Uzumaki chakra+ kyuubi to fall back on. They only need to learn to harness those powers. Sakura on the other hand has to rely on her normal self.

Kakashi trained Sasuke personally and told her to sit on the side line for his sake in middle of the chunin exams. He found a teacher for Naruto- because he knew he won't shut up that easily but not Sakura why? That's exploiting her sympathy for Sasuke's situation against her personal interest.

By the end despite her being an ordinary girl from an ordinary back ground without any inheritance or gifted powers she was one of the top shinobies on the field. Only Kabuto and Tsunade can challenge her and both are her senior. One an experienced Sannin and the other had stolen add ons. And none of the others could have helped Obito in rescuing Sasuke from that desert.

Not a bad performance for a book smart girl on the field. She could be written in a better way but she is not one dimensional nor her goal was bad seeing the level of competition in team 7. She was the only person in the team without a personal baggage but I don't see why I should hold it against her. Having a troublesome dark past is too main stream anyway. :p

And she definitely seems too believable and realistically turned out to generate this much of passion and interest in her that some of you guys cannot seem to have enough of her.
 
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More like you are completely fail to understand how the character is written. She definitely could be written better but not that bad as you claim repeatedly. Plus she is the most developed female in the manga.

Sakura's goal was to be nin. She is. Then her next goal was to be a medic and she became an excellent one. She was able to create antidote for Sasori's poison after extracting and analyzing it (none in the Sand village could do it) and then heal people on the field using her seal and summon. That shows how skilled she became at it.

One of her other goals is to be able to keep up with two of the most overpowered people in the verse who managed to defeat the ultimate villain. What's wrong with that goal?

Both her team mates had a head start since the day they were born-- One had sharingan and another Uzumaki chakra+ kyuubi to fall back on. They only need to learn to harness those powers. Sakura on the other hand has to rely on her normal self.

Kakashi trained Sasuke personally and told her to sit on the side line for his sake in middle of the chunin exams. He found a teacher for Naruto- because he knew he won't shut up that easily but not Sakura why? That's exploiting her sympathy for Sasuke's situation against her personal interest.

By the end despite her being an ordinary girl from an ordinary back ground without any inheritance or gifted powers she was one of the top shinobies on the field. Only Kabuto and Tsunade can challenge her and both are her senior or had stolen add ons. And none of the others could have helped Obito in rescuing Sasuke from that desert.

Not a bad performance for a book smart girl on the field. She could be written in a better way but she is not one dimensional nor her goal was bad seeing the level of competition in team 7. She was the only person in the team without a personal baggage but I don't see why I should hold it against her. Having a troublesome dark past is too main stream anyway. :p

And she definitely seems too believable and realistically turned out to generate this much of passion and interest in her that some of you guys cannot seem to have enough of her.

Sakura did have a gifted ability from the start and it was her naturally good chakra control. This has been noted since part 1. She wasn't ordinary according to Shizune.
 
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