Itachi vs Hiashi

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Why not ? Where did it say they can't be compared and are only showing the growth of characters? Where ?

Tsunade uses CES to increase her strength, so that wouldn't count as base.

Looks like he was blocking those swords, if you ask me. so yes, he was keeping up w/ him rather well.



- I literally just gave you a reason why. Tsunade is in base. How she uses her chakra to enhance her strength, doesn't change that. You're grasping at straws mate.

- The Hiashi wank is obviously blinding you from the various scratches Sasuke was receiving simply because Bee hadn't decided to kill him yet. Then of course, there's .

- From the chapter you posted, Part one Kakashi's 3T was keeping up with Lee's speed as well. And yet, he couldn't keep up with Itachi's seal speed.

"and Obito's sealing technique, the latter being extraordinarily fast."

Byakugan sees chakra. Obito absorbed chakra. Do the math. I don't see anything to suggest it was as fast as you'd like to pretend anyway. Of course people without Byakugan couldn't witness what was happening to it. They can't see chakra. Nor do they possess the vision to be able to see that far away.
 
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- I literally just gave you a reason why.

I'm asking for an official source saying that these databook scores are not meant to be compared.

Tsunade is in base. How she uses her chakra to enhance her strength, doesn't change that. You're grasping at straws mate.

She may be in base, but her strength is being increased by chakra, so my point still stands.
- The Hiashi wank is obviously blinding you from the various scratches Sasuke was receiving simply because Bee hadn't decided to kill him yet.

What scratches ? You mean that one little wound on his cheek that's not even bleeding?

Then of course, there's .

What does that prove ? Bee blocked his Chidori sword w/ his own lightening and proceeded to attack him by taking advantage of the surprise factor. How does that show his sharingan wasn't able to keep up w/ the speed?.

- From the chapter you posted, Part one Kakashi's 3T was keeping up with Lee's speed as well. And yet, he couldn't keep up with Itachi's seal speed.

Don't care, P1 Neji and Kakashi aren't Hiashi, I was simply showing it can keep up w/ high speed.

Link to Kakashi not being able to keep up w/ Itachi's hand speed.

"and Obito's sealing technique, the latter being extraordinarily fast."

Byakugan sees chakra. Obito absorbed chakra. Do the math. I don't see anything to suggest it was as fast as you'd like to pretend anyway. Of course people without Byakugan couldn't witness what was happening to it. They can't see chakra. Nor do they possess the vision to be able to see that far away.

Sakura asks Hinata if she saw what happened, with her replying that it was clear from what she saw that Obito absorbed the Juubi. She then goes on to say that even Obito's chakra is proof of this. Hinata said "Judging by the chakra as well", which means there was at least 2 methods to which she was able to know how Obito became the Juubi's host, the first being that she was able to keep up w/ the speed of the sealing process.
 

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Itachi low diff
Itachi neg diff
Could go either way IMO
 

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I'm asking for an official source saying that these databook scores are not meant to be compared.
Not everything needs to be spelled out for you. It becomes obvious this is the case when you actually pay attention to the databook stats and then what each character is capable of. Tsunade and Guy are just one example.


She may be in base, but her strength is being increased by chakra, so my point still stands.
No it doesn't. I'm not repeating this again. Tsunade is in base. How she uses her chakra to enhance her strength, doesn't change that. The stats are for each character in base, and if that's what Tsunade is capable of doing in base, then that's how she's rated. This logic made no sense to begin with, because if it didn't include that then Tsunade would not have a five. Her strength specifically comes from using chakra to enhance her strength.

What scratches ? You mean that one little wound on his cheek that's not even bleeding?
As stupid an argument as this was, I'll entertain it. Here's your .


What does that prove ? Bee blocked his Chidori sword w/ his own lightening and proceeded to attack him by taking advantage of the surprise factor. How does that show his sharingan wasn't able to keep up w/ the speed?.
Surprise factor? Don't twist facts to try and make a point. . Sasuke was not prevented from moving in any way, and his 3T was active. If he was able to keep up with Bee's movements that he would would have moved away.

Don't care, P1 Neji and Kakashi aren't Hiashi, I was simply showing it can keep up w/ high speed.
I would think you would care as your only chance with this argument was to prove that Lee's 5 Gates speed was comparable to Itachi's speed. Needless to say, you failed miserably, once Kakashi was able to do it without issue.

Link to Kakashi not being able to keep up w/ Itachi's hand speed.




Sakura asks Hinata if she saw what happened, with her replying that it was clear from what she saw that Obito absorbed the Juubi. She then goes on to say that even Obito's chakra is proof of this. Hinata said "Judging by the chakra as well", which means there was at least 2 methods to which she was able to know how Obito became the Juubi's host, the first being that she was able to keep up w/ the speed of the sealing process.
Or it could simply mean that she saw the chakra absorbed, and can confirm that's what happened by the look of Obito's chakra afterward. Nice try though.
 
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