Proof: Hiruzen staff can destroy a village.

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Pain's Chibaku Tensei couldn't even restrain a half Kurama.



But Hiruzen's staff was able to knock a full Kurama out of the village.


Pain's ST couldn't even budge a 6 tailed half Kurama.


Hiruzen's staff>>>>>>ST

Hiruzen's staff>>>>>>CT


Manga fact.

Since ST and CT can destroy villages, Hiruzen's staff can do so as well.



Hiruzen was an very old man at the time, yet he was stronger than Pain.
 

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Well, yes, given enough time, Enma could destroy a village(in terms of the buildings/structures) in staff form. He's already broke through mokuton and the god tree. This isn't exactly a ground breaking observation.
 

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Well, yes, given enough time, Enma could destroy a village in staff form. He's already broke through mokuton and the god tree. This isn't exactly a ground breaking observation.

No, The Staff has more force than ST or CT.

It can do it in one strike.
 

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This is an interesting thread with a lot of well constructed arguments, and it's definitely a subject I think about often. Obviously, the answer to this question is highly subjective, and I don't believe there is a single right answer. I like reading everyone's opinion on the matter, though, and I hope this discussion goes on.
 

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Hiruzen > Life.

Life Hax.
 

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No, The Staff has more force than ST or CT.

It can do it in one strike.

CT/ST creates a shockwave that makes it effective over large areas. Enma can't(or at least hasn't shown to be able to) do that.

Enma may have more power when striking a single point, but attacking a wide range to the scale of CT isn't likely.
 

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CT/ST creates a shockwave that makes it effective over large areas. Enma can't(or at least hasn't shown to be able to) do that.

Enma may have more power when striking a single point, but attacking a wide range to the scale of CT isn't likely.

No the sheer momentum will make the ground explode and everything around it.



Kinda like how a really fast meteor can destory a area millions of times the size of the meteor itself
 

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not bad, but i have read more preposterous things on this site so this is not a winner
 

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Naw, he has a hard time with Ay.
 

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This is an interesting thread with a lot of well constructed arguments, and it's definitely a subject I think about often. Obviously, the answer to this question is highly subjective, and I don't believe there is a single right answer. I like reading everyone's opinion on the matter, though, and I hope this discussion goes on.
The like and dislike buttons are too close together.
 

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No the sheer momentum will make the ground explode and everything around it.



Kinda like how a really fast meteor can destory a area millions of times the size of the meteor itself

You know, this is a bit sad.

You actually raised a very interesting comparison/point in noting that Enma has more power/force going in one direction than CT/ST does(also, Enma knocked back 100% Kyuubi, CT couldn't even knock back 50%). But you have to ruin it with this silly troll talk.

What's wrong with you people?
 

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You know, this is a bit sad.

You actually raised a very interesting comparison/point in noting that Enma has more power/force going in one direction than CT/ST does(also, Enma knocked back 100% Kyuubi, CT couldn't even knock back 50%). But you have to ruin it with this silly troll talk.

What's wrong with you people?
He wanted to troll but unfortunately struck logic
 

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Proof that Hiruzen's staff knocked kurama out the village? I'll wait.
 
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