Is Sakura good at CQC?

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Yes but I dont think they would match the MC in power kinda like how Naruto and Sasuke are and since shonen is primarily at young boys,thats how it is

They don't need to match the main character's power to be relevant or developed. Naruto the series is not a great way to judge female characters in Shonen. Shows like Bleach, and Fairy Tail do quiet well with them.


Wasnt Kabuto kicking her?And 12 year old Naruto saved her?

He was but during that time she showed this feat that I found very impressive. Tsunade did this jutsue that messed up Kabuto's nervous system. Where he was having to the think the opposite to attack.

Just watch this video.

Kabuto VS Tsunade [HQ]:

[video=youtube_share;ML4LJDa7OnA]http://youtu.be/ML4LJDa7OnA[/video]
 
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he healed himself but yet fell to the ground his chakra drained.

And yes I watched the anime (dunno if it's filler) but he was literally kicking her and she was screaming too until Naruto blocks the punch and she says "Naruto you don't have to protect me" 12 year old Naruto protecting a Legendary Sannin from a ninja at the level of Kakashi Lol Lmao

Also she needed to activate her Byakugou to land punches on Oro and even then he was in a weakened state and he still got the best of her.Had it been full power Oro who faced Hiruzen she would have been stomped

And if I recall she never punched Kabuto.Naruto "defeated" him with Rasengan.He got up but the aftershocks drained him out

And the only reason Naruto even managed to land the rasengan was why exactly ? because he sacrificed his hand.. Before that, he attempted using Rasengan on him, yet he casually dodged it.

No, that was in the manga, you're not wrong. You're just ignoring context [bravo], not sure whether it's on purpose or you're just trolling. But whatever.

Byakugo doesn't increase speed or reflexes. Nice try though.

She wasn't the one who landed the "final" blow, but she did manage to land a lot of blows on him.

You know, I don't actually remember what the Kabuto's butt part refers to, mind reminding me? Also, solo Rock solos everyone anyway U_U

Well yeah, sure... She is human, not a vehicle. It's not like IRL tanks are invincible, they can get blown up or toppled over too.

In the Heaven & Earth Bride, 3-tailed Naruto sent Kabuto flying, and then his butt collided w/ Sakura's face, knocking her on the bridge, and knocking her out.

I know, but she's not a tank in the way certain other characters are [Gaara or Ay]
 
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They don't need to match the main character's power to be relevant or developed. Naruto the series is not a great way to judge female characters in Shonen. Shows like Bleach, and Fairy Tail do quiet well with them.




He was but during that time she showed this feat that I found very impressive. Tsunade did this jutsue that messed up Kabuto's nervous system. Where he was having to the think the opposite to attack.

Just watch this video.

Kabuto VS Tsunade [HQ]:

[video=youtube_share;ML4LJDa7OnA]http://youtu.be/ML4LJDa7OnA[/video]
From the point of view of the fact that she was a legendary sannin it's really not that impressive how much trouble she encountered with Kabuto what with him kicking her,belittling her and all.the fight was still evenly matched and Naruto took him out with just one Rasengan without even getting humiliated Jiraiya was going head to head with ninjas like Kisame and Itachi.Kabuto really is nothing in comparison which is why I don't find it impressive

Heck the very fact that she needs Byakugou against a Orochimaru who doesn't even have his hands says it all.Jiriaya would have done much better had Tsunade not drugged him

That's just my point.Among the trio Tsunade is the weakest when you compare all 3 of them.Dont even get me started on Jiraiya in Sage mode.Medical ninjas in general suck in this manga.Tusnade seems better than Sakura as she is older has more experience and has feats but when you compare them to the other two they are very weak
 

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In the Heaven & Earth Bride, 3-tailed Naruto sent Kabuto flying, and then his butt collided w/ Sakura's face, knocking her on the bridge, and knocking her out.

I know, but she's not a tank in the way certain other characters are [Gaara or Ay]

Thanks, found it. Heh, Kabuto sure tanked that hit well...

And yeah, I know. I wasn't comparing her to those characters but drawing parallels with an IRL tank.
 

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From the point of view of the fact that she was a legendary sannin it's really not that impressive how much trouble she encountered with Kabuto what with him kicking her,belittling her and all.the fight was still evenly matched and Naruto took him out with just one Rasengan without even getting humiliated Jiraiya was going head to head with ninjas like Kisame and Itachi.Kabuto really is nothing in comparison which is why I don't find it impressive

Heck the very fact that she needs Byakugou against a Orochimaru who doesn't even have his hands says it all.Jiriaya would have done much better had Tsunade not drugged him

That's just my point.Among the trio Tsunade is the weakest when you compare all 3 of them.Dont even get me started on Jiraiya in Sage mode.Medical ninjas in general suck in this manga.Tusnade seems better than Sakura as she is older has more experience and has feats but when you compare them to the other two they are very weak

I was never comparing her with the other two. I was comparing her with Sakura. And to be honest I don't really give a shit about who is more impressive from the three Sanin. To me they were decent characters.
 

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And the only reason Naruto even managed to land the rasengan was why exactly ? because he sacrificed his hand.. Before that, he attempted using Rasengan on him, yet he casually dodged it.

What sacrifice?It was just a little blood between fingers.He encountered much worse in the Sasuke fight and I found Naruto even going up against Kabuto impressively that point.He took him down without much ado

No, that was in the manga, you're not wrong. You're just ignoring context [bravo], not sure whether it's on purpose or you're just trolling. But whatever.
Being rusty due to not being active for years is no excuse when the enemy you are fighting is also a Medic ninja of which you are supposed to have reached the pinnacle off and near Kakashi's level.
And Even if I take your context Orochimaru was also weakened that time and he was doing decently well against her and she needed to take out her trump card to beat him

Byakugo doesn't increase speed or reflexes. Nice try though.
Never said it did.She just needed access to it against her counterpart who was already weakened to begin with
She wasn't the one who landed the "final" blow, but she did manage to land a lot of blows on him.

And so did Kabuto.Your point?Considering her level he should have been soloed.Imagine Jiraiya in her place.Would the fight have gone the way it did ? nope


I was never comparing her with the other two. I was comparing her with Sakura. And to be honest I don't really give a shit about who is more impressive from the three Sanin. To me they were decent characters.
She is better than Sakura as she is older and has more experience but she is pathetic compared to the other two in combat.Same is the case with Sakura on her team.She sucks and is a complete joke

The main issue here is that females on any team are weaker than the male counterparts.Its how Kishi has written this manga and many shonens are also written like this.Some authors clearly like women to be portrayed this way so why is Sakura being pathetic in battle being blamed when nearly all the females are useless?I find Sakura simply less shitty as her insignificant feats were shown because she is a main.
 
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Sakura is a Marry Sue with the typical marry sue "skills" (herculen strength and fast regeneration/immortality).

And yes, most ninjas above genins ranks (except Naruto and Sasuke of course) easily can defeat her.

Also, the reason why Sakura could hit Kaguya above wasn't her feat neither, becuase Kakashi dropped Sakura on Kaguya like a bomb, so technicaly it was Kakashi's feat.
 

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Sakura is a Marry Sue with the typical marry sue "skills" (herculen strength and fast regeneration/immortality).

And yes, most ninjas above genins ranks (except Naruto and Sasuke of course) easily can defeat her.

Also, the reason why Sakura could hit Kaguya above wasn't her feat neither, becuase Kakashi dropped Sakura on Kaguya like a bomb, so technicaly it was Kakashi's feat.
she punched him.A feat is a feat and it happened.End of story

I could also say that Naruto beating Deva Path is also not technically a feat as Hinata,Minato and Kurama did the most of it
 

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Kid Kakashi is better than her in CQC

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she punched him.A feat is a feat and it happened.End of story

I could also say that Naruto beating Deva Path is also not technically a feat as Hinata,Minato and Kurama did the most of it

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She is better than Sakura as she is older and has more experience but she is pathetic compared to the other two in combat.Same is the case with Sakura on her team.She sucks and is a complete joke

Age has nothing to do with how good a character is. Many characters in this series have reached levels equal to or higher than people far above there age.

Also why does it matter if she is better than J man and Orochimaru? For a female character she is still good. Thats all that matters really.


The main issue here is that females on any team are weaker than the male counterparts.

Yeah? So what? Do you think strength is the only thing that female characters should have? Honestly I don't think so.

Its how Kishi has written this manga and many shonens are also written like this.

Well not every shonen arthor thinks like Kishi. They actually know how to make a female character. Comparing them to Kishi's writing is insult in my opinion. A female character does not need to have the most strength to be a good character. All she needs is a decent background and development as a character. Not all shonen mangaku make females like Kishi does in that regards.

Some authors clearly like women to be portrayed this way so why is Sakura being pathetic in battle being blamed when nearly all the females are useless?I find Sakura simply less shitty as her insignificant feats were shown because she is a main.

Sakura's problem is not only with her strength its with her character. If you look at her closely than you will see many things that are under developed about her. As a main character thats pretty pathetic if you ask me. And what doesn't help is the fact that she tried to compete with Naruto and Sasuke.

Not all shonen mangakus treat there main heroine like shit, as Kishi did. So don't even try to defend this by going there.
 
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What sacrifice?It was just a little blood between fingers.
The kunai stabbed clean through his hand, allowing him to hold on to Kabuto's hand .

He encountered much worse in the Sasuke fight and I found Naruto even going up against Kabuto impressively that point.

Because he was a genin

He took him down without much ado

no, he struggled immensely, go re-read the manga.

Being rusty due to not being active for years is no excuse when the enemy you are fighting is also a Medic ninja of which you are supposed to have reached the pinnacle off and near Kakashi's level.

Pinnacle of Medical ninjutsu =/= Taijutsu

Kabuto isn't near Kakashi's, he's above it. Two snake summons and he get's pwened.

@ bold lmao hell no.

And Even if I take your context Orochimaru was also weakened that time and he was doing decently well against her and she needed to take out her trump card to beat him

Because she had previously been injured by Kabuto and Orochimaru in defending Naruto, so she needed to heal herself. After that, and after she overcame her phobia, she was fighting on par w/ Orochimaru.

Never said it did.She just needed access to it against her counterpart who was already weakened to begin with

Orochimaru is above both Tsunade and Jiriaya, even w/o those arms.

And so did Kabuto.Your point?

Point is, even while being on standby for 20 years and phscollogically unstable during a majority of the fight, she still was able to hit the likes of Orochimaru's right-hand man.

Considering her level he should have been soloed.

Which would have happened had she not been rusty and mentally unstable

Imagine Jiraiya in her place.Would the fight have gone the way it did ? nope

Probably. if he's in base, yes.

She is better than Sakura as she is older and has more experience but she is pathetic compared to the other two in combat.Same is the case with Sakura on her team.She sucks and is a complete joke

I wouldn't say Tsunade is pathetic in combat, even Jiriaya admitted inferiority to her and if he were to use sage mode while Tsunade uses Yin Seal [no summons for either], I'd say they're close in skill/tier level. Orochimaru is obviously above both

@bold That's all my point ever was

she punched him.A feat is a feat and it happened.End of story

That means Hinata can fly. Cool beans.
 

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It's a trait all female characters have in NV. They're not as fast when it comes to taijutsu compared to the males. Take Sakura and Tsunade as an example. Almost always they will dive forward with a punch, and that gets them no where except for with zetsus. Hinata is a lot better and faster close combat with her twin dragons, but even then she's still slow. The males out compete them when it comes to speed/agility/balance etc.​

but hinata and hanabi does!!
 

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And the only reason Naruto even managed to land the rasengan was why exactly ? because he sacrificed his hand.. Before that, he attempted using Rasengan on him, yet he casually dodged it.

No, that was in the manga, you're not wrong. You're just ignoring context [bravo], not sure whether it's on purpose or you're just trolling. But whatever.

Byakugo doesn't increase speed or reflexes. Nice try though.

She wasn't the one who landed the "final" blow, but she did manage to land a lot of blows on him.



In the Heaven & Earth Bride, 3-tailed Naruto sent Kabuto flying, and then his butt collided w/ Sakura's face, knocking her on the bridge, and knocking her out.

I know, but she's not a tank in the way certain other characters are [Gaara or Ay]
Damn how could i forget that sakura getting soloes by kabuto's butt!! XD
 

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In shippuden, she wasn't good in CQB for sure. However, it looked like she improved in the Last to more or less Naruto's level, which is a huge plus for her.

1. I think this was related to emotional trama.

2. Agreed.

3. Naruto made the same mistake though. Still, that's very bad for someone constantly considered smarter than Naruto.
 
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In shippuden, she wasn't good in CQB for sure. However, it looked like she improved in the Last to more or less Naruto's level, which is a huge plus for her.

1. I think this was related to emotional trama.

2. Agreed.

3. Naruto made the same mistake though. Still, that's very bad for someone constantly considered smarter than Naruto.

Where did he make that mistake? Talking about #3.

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