Hinata and Hamura.

[1Told]

So being someone's descendant means you have their chakra from birth? Since when was that the case? Lol Sorry, but I still don't understand how Hinata having Hamura's chakra since birth doesn't make her a transmigrant/reincarnation. I mean, did Naruto or Sasuke have Hagoromo's chakra just because they were his children? No .

stop with this ridiculous reincarnation fanfic and watch the movie, the subs are in english so no problem to understand it :mew:

Naruto and Sasuke are not Hagoromo direct descendants, just reincarnations of his children souls just like Madara and Hashirama before them, that's why they needed his chakra to activate their potential and to use Asura and Indra's chakras.

this is not exactly the same that happened to Hinata neither Toneri, he always known about their common ancestor, she didn't but both are direct descendants with his dna and chakra: a clan on Earth and a clan on the Moon.

it's not a secret that the Hyuuga avoided mating outside their own clan (databooks and manga facts) and Toneri's clan was basically isolated on the Moon (databook, manga and movie facts), so no real chance to meet someone from another clan either Lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

Actually no. She didn't get any boosts. Check mah latest thread. I have a message directly to you in it.

Seemingly, no. But I think it's ridiculous to assume that having the chakra of a Demi-God doesn't improve your overall stats to a certain degree, right?

stop with this ridiculous reincarnation fanfic and watch the movie, the subs are in english so no problem to understand it :mew:

Naruto and Sasuke are not Hagoromo direct descendants, just reincarnations of his children souls just like Madara and Hashirama before them, that's why they needed his chakra to activate their potential and to use Asura and Indra's chakras.

this is not exactly the same that happened to Hinata neither Toneri, he always known about their common ancestor, she didn't but both are direct descendants with his dna and chakra: a clan on Earth and a clan on the Moon.

it's not a secret that the Hyuuga avoided mating outside their own clan (databooks and manga facts) and Toneri's clan was basically isolated on the Moon (databook, manga and movie facts), so no real chance to meet someone from another clan either Lol

I know, I know
Where did it say that Hyuga avoided mating outside of their own clan?

 

[Bantos]

Seemingly, no. But I think it's ridiculous to assume that having the chakra of a Demi-God doesn't improve your overall stats to a certain degree, right?

She always had the chakra. It wasn't given to her. It's her own chakra.

 

[1Told]

Yes.

She inherits his power from birth as a main branch Hyuga, and was given his chakra directly during their conversation.

again lying...
show us the caps from this peculiar scene, it exist only in your head autoplay

 

[Made in Heaven]

She always had the chakra. It wasn't given to her. It's her own chakra.

If she always had Hamura's chakra, that would make her his transmigrant. You don't get your ancestor's chakra just because you're their child. I mean, Karin doesn't have Ashura's chakra just because she's his child. Why would Hinata have Hamura's unless she's his transmigrant? Then again, Some people have been telling me she recived it and some have been saying she's always had it; so I'm just gonna assume she awakened it [had it but couldn't use it, like NAruto having Kurama's chakra but not being able to use it] after meeting Hamura until I watch the movie for myself, which might take a while because off my slow internet connection >:^(

 

[Bantos]

If she always had Hamura's chakra, that would make her his transmigrant. You don't get your ancestor's chakra just because you're their child. I mean, Karin doesn't have Ashura's chakra just because she's his child. Why would Hinata have Hamura's unless she's his transmigrant? Then again, Some people have been telling me she recived it and some have been saying she's always had it; so I'm just gonna assume she awakened it [had it but couldn't use it, like NAruto having Kurama's chakra but not being able to use it] after meeting Hamura until I watch the movie for myself, which might take a while because off my slow internet connection >:^(

She isn't Hamura's transmigrant. She was called Princess byakugan by Hamura. Hamura even appeared to her.

 

[Made in Heaven]

She isn't Hamura's transmigrant. She was called Princess byakugan by Hamura. Hamura even appeared to her.

I honestly don't care if she's his transmigrant or not at this point, but how does having someone's chakra from birth not make you their incarnation? How did she even have Hamura's chakra from birth if she's not his transmigrant? What other explanation would there be as to hwo she has his chakra from birth? [assuming this is true, as some people have said it was given to her]

 

[Bantos]

I honestly don't care if she's his transmigrant or not at this point, but how does having someone's chakra from birth not make you their incarnation? How did she even have Hamura's chakra from birth if she's not his transmigrant?

She's a direct descendant ,she inherited Hamura's blood.

 

[Made in Heaven]

She's a direct descendant ,she inherited Hamura's blood.

Yes, yes I know. But blood isn't the same as chakra. Being someone's child doesn't mean you get their chakra from birth or at all for that matter. Tobirama, Kushina and Tsunade doesn't have Ashura's, nor do Itachi, Obito, and Shisui have Indra's. Only transmigrants can inherit another's chakra directly, non-transmigrants will only inherit portions of their power.

 

[Bantos]

Yes, yes I know. But blood isn't the same as chakra. Being someone's child doesn't mean you get their chakra from birth or at all for that matter. Tobirama, Kushina and Tsunade doesn't have Ashura's, nor do Itachi, Obito, and Shisui have Indra's. Only transmigrants can inherit another's chakra directly, non-transmigrants will only inherit portions of their power.

Well Hinata obviously didn't inherit Hamura's full power. :|
She used juho shoshiken.

 

[FemmeFatale]

She's had a demi-God's blood since birth and she was still weaker than her younger sister and branch-member cousin? Didn't learn 64 palms until the end of the manga and couldn't rotate, etc?

Omg, be nice, Naruto believes in her

 

[Made in Heaven]

Well Hinata obviously didn't inherit Hamura's full power. :|
She used juho shoshiken.

No duh, she doesn't.

My point is, if what you're saying is true [that she always had Hamura's chakra since birth] then that makes her his transmigrant.

If what BlacLord said was true [that she received the chakra from Hamura when meeting him] then that means she isn't.

But which one is the real one, I don't know.

 

[Bantos]

No duh, she doesn't.

My point is, if what you're saying is true [that she always had Hamura's chakra since birth] then that makes her his transmigrant.

If what BlacLord said was true [that she received the chakra from Hamura when meeting him] then that means she isn't.

But which one is the real one, I don't know.

She isn't a transmigrant, it was never said she was. And she even had a conversation with him, so...
Neither was there any part when she was actually given the chakra.
Are you forgetting I actually watched it earlier today? :|

 

[Made in Heaven]

She isn't a transmigrant, it was never said she was. And she even had a conversation with him, so...
Neither was there any part when she was actually given the chakra.
Are you forgetting I actually watched it earlier today? :|

Nope, I'm not forgetting.

I'm simply saying having someone's chakra within her from birth would make her the transmigrant of that person, regardless of whether or not it was said, as the only other characters who've had another's chakra within them since birth aside from Hinata are Naruto w/ Ashura's and Sasuke w/ Indra's, and both of them are transmigrants of Ashura and Indra, so why wouldn't the same be w/ Hinata?

If she was never given any chakra, where did that purple chakra come from all of a sudden? Her chakra has always been blue up until she met Hamura.

 

[Bantos]

Nope, I'm not forgetting.

I'm simply saying having someone's chakra within her from birth would make her the transmigrant of that person, regardless of whether or not it was said, as the only other characters who've had another's chakra within them since birth aside from Hinata are Naruto w/ Ashura's and Sasuke w/ Indra's, and both of them are transmigrants of Ashura and Indra, so why wouldn't the same be w/ Hinata?

If she was never given any chakra, where did that purple chakra come from all of a sudden? Her chakra has always been blue up until she met Hamura.

Have you ever thought that maybe Hinata's chakra is actually purple?
Naruto's chakra in this movie was yellow, as it was in the manga. Not blue like in the anime.

 

[1Told]

Seemingly, no. But I think it's ridiculous to assume that having the chakra of a Demi-God doesn't improve your overall stats to a certain degree, right?


I know, I know
Where did it say that Hyuga avoided mating outside of their own clan?

nah it's an affirmation not something you've said, the Hyuuga practised eugenics for sure

tbh Hinata didn't had any boost because of Hamura's chakra, her taijutsu improved in the movie yep but she's 18 so she probably trained a lot.

the only thing which is an improvement somehow is Hinata was capable to broke Toneri's vampiric ball technique even if he was already using Hamura's sage mode.

Spoiler

the first time, Toneri used it against her in the village and that's why she couldn't climb the wall, she lost a lot of her chakra because of this technique.
that's the same stuff Toneri's used against Naruto when Hinata agreed to left with him (imo it was more powerful this time than the first one) and it took Sakura 3 days and almost all her chakra to refuel him, so this stuff is not just some weird useless glowing blob.

she only touched Naruto's hand, the technique stopped and his chakra was glowing again around his body.

Spoiler

imo it also gave him some kind of energetic boost but clearly she didn't use her purple chakra to refuel him.

i doubt it's a refuel because the contact zone between their respective chakras is very visible, it's a pink noticeable shade and that's what they used to destroy the Tenseigan: the rasengan + the unique lion fist combo was a mix of orange, purple and pink chakra colors too meaning the common zone was only their fists not their entire bodies (unlike what Naruto did with Kurama's chakra during the war).

i don't think the movie was made to turn Hinata into a super saiyan like Naruto and Sasuke Lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

Have you ever thought that maybe Hinata's chakra is actually purple?
Naruto's chakra in this movie was yellow, as it was in the manga. Not blue like in the anime.

But it was always shown to be blue up until the meeting with Hamura. everyone's chakra is blue [yellow in the manga though]

Eh, whatever, I'll watch the movie for myself before I debate this any further.

 

[1Told]

Nope, I'm not forgetting.

I'm simply saying having someone's chakra within her from birth would make her the transmigrant of that person, regardless of whether or not it was said, as the only other characters who've had another's chakra within them since birth aside from Hinata are Naruto w/ Ashura's and Sasuke w/ Indra's, and both of them are transmigrants of Ashura and Indra, so why wouldn't the same be w/ Hinata?

If she was never given any chakra, where did that purple chakra come from all of a sudden? Her chakra has always been blue up until she met Hamura.

no chakra is not blue, it's an error from the anime only.
everybody has a different shade of chakra, Kurama is red, Naruto is yellow so that's why than they are mixed, Naruto's chakra turns orange.
Minato's chakra for example is purple, the info is on a databook.

the blue chakra is just more simple for SP but it's not canon :mew:

imo Hinata's chakra is purple just like Minato, simple as this!!!

 

[Bantos]

But it was always shown to be blue up until the meeting with Hamura. everyone's chakra is blue [yellow in the manga though]

Eh, whatever, I'll watch the movie for myself before I debate this any further.

Everyone's chakra is different color in the manga.
Everyone's chakra is blue in the anime.

You're ignoring Naruto's yellow rasengans and rasenshurikens

 

[Made in Heaven]

no chakra is not blue, it's an error from the anime only.
everybody has a different shade of chakra, Kurama is red, Naruto is yellow so that's why than they are mixed, Naruto's chakra turns orange.
Minato's chakra for example is purple, the info is on a databook.

the blue chakra is just more simple for SP but it's not canon :mew:

imo Hinata's chakra is purple just like Minato, simple as this!!!

Everyone's chakra is different color in the manga.
Everyone's chakra is blue in the anime.

You're ignoring Naruto's yellow rasengans and rasenshurikens

Right, I just remembered that whole incident w/ Ao being able to see Shisui's chakra colour inside Danzo's body.