Sage Mode Jiraiya vs. Tendō, Shuradō, and Jigokudō

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Scenario: The conditions of this battle are similar to the one that took place in canon. Jiraiya has just killed Chikushōdō, Gakidō, and Ningendō. However, in this scenario, he has full intel on Pain and his abilities, and is anticiparing the arrival of the other three paths.

Location: Where Jiraiya had been killed in canon.

Restricions: Large-scale Shinra Tensei, Chibaku Tensei, Frog Song (since the sage toads had already used it and their throats were exhausted)
 

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Pain wins med difficulty.

Jiraiya isn't getting past a CST that one shotted boss toads and no that's not a Full scale Shira Tensei. Basho tennin complimented by missiles ends him.
 

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Pain med diff. The toads had their throats sore from the genjutsu so they could not do it again. Chibaku Tensei one shotts, really.
 

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Kawazu Naki(unless you intended to restrict both Gama Rinsho and Kawazu Naki by saying frog song) could potentially paralyze them long enough for Jiraiya to take them out.

If it is restricted..

Naraka is useless here so long as Jiraiya keeps the bodies away from him, and the way he can do that is using Yomi Numa and just sinking them.

After sinking the bodies, he can use the Gama Hyoro to take out one of the 3. You can argue here which one of the 3 is trapped, but given Naraka is not the fighter of the group, I would wage a bet on it being Asura or Deva.

If it's Deva that's trapped, Asura and Naraka get defeated with extreme ease, Asura being the only one who has any feats to even fight Jiraiya with, and none of that is going to be enough to kill someone as skilled as Jiraiya.

If it's Asura that's trapped, the fight is obviously trickier, but things such as Yatai Kuzushi can be used to take the first hit of Shinra Tensei. During the 5+ second cooldown(I don't remember how long the cooldown was after he used it to push away the boss summons vs Naruto), Fukasaku ends him with his Zessenzan, Jiraiya with Odoma Rasengan, Shima ends him with Zessenbaku, or insert endless number of other possibilities here.

Then Naraka he can tell Fukasaku and Shima to go home and neg-diff him in base.

Giving Jiraiya full knowledge against only two paths that actually pose him any threat is asking to give those paths a beat down. Naraka is useless here, Asura is decent but he's not on SM Jiraiya's level, and Deva is the only one who poses any kind of threat here, and that threat could be ended very quickly if he's the one caught in Gama Hyoro, and even if it's Asura that dies there, Deva is taken out shortly after.

Jiraiya wins no difficulty if Deva is the one caught in Gama Hyoro.

Low difficulty if Asura is the one caught.
 
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Kawazu Naki(unless you intended to restrict both Gama Rinsho and Kawazu Naki by saying frog song) could potentially paralyze them long enough for Jiraiya to take them out.

If it is restricted..

Naraka is useless here so long as Jiraiya keeps the bodies away from him, and the way he can do that is using Yomi Numa and just sinking them.

After sinking the bodies, he can use the Gama Hyoro to take out one of the 3. You can argue here which one of the 3 is trapped, but given Naraka is not the fighter of the group, I would wage a bet on it being Asura or Deva.

If it's Deva that's trapped, Asura and Naraka get defeated with extreme ease, Asura being the only one who has any feats to even fight Jiraiya with, and none of that is going to be enough to kill someone as skilled as Jiraiya.

If it's Asura that's trapped, the fight is obviously trickier, but things such as Yatai Kuzushi can be used to take the first hit of Shinra Tensei. During the 5+ second cooldown(I don't remember how long the cooldown was after he used it to push away the boss summons vs Naruto), Fukasaku ends him with his Zessenzan, Jiraiya with Odoma Rasengan, Shima ends him with Zessenbaku, or insert endless number of other possibilities here.

Then Naraka he can tell Fukasaku and Shima to go home and neg-diff him in base.

Giving Jiraiya full knowledge against only two paths that actually pose him any threat is asking to give those paths a beat down. Naraka is useless here, Asura is decent but he's not on SM Jiraiya's level, and Deva is the only one who poses any kind of threat here, and that threat could be ended very quickly if he's the one caught in Gama Hyoro, and even if it's Asura that dies there, Deva is taken out shortly after.

Jiraiya wins no difficulty if Deva is the one caught in Gama Hyoro.

Low difficulty if Asura is the one caught.
How would he counter Banshō Teni'n and Asura Path's missiles?
 

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How would he counter Banshō Teni'n and Asura Path's missiles?
In my scenario his first move is using Gama Hyoro, so Bansho Teni'n isn't exactly applicable here, as it's canon that Pain's response to Gama Hyoro is to investigate it, which will result in a dead Deva or Asura path.

So, he's only going to have to worry about one of those two.

Like I said if Deva is the one alive after Gama Hyoro, as soon as he exits it, Deva is getting hit with Yatai Kuzushi. So he has the option to either die from it or waste his powers/start his cooldown, which will result in him dying from one of the many abilities in Jiraiya's arsenal.

I don't even recall(and I haven't read Naruto vs Pain, so maybe it did there, I dunno) Asura's missiles ever hurting anyone. Kakaskhi was worried about his missile hurting an already injured Chouji, but other than that what feats does it have?

And even if we want to assume(or it's been proven and I just don't remember it) that missile is a one hit kill, or severely injures the target, Jiraiya can destroy it with katon or Shima with Futon. Fukasaku could also use his tounge to cut it in half, but that's going to result in the explosion hitting his tongue which probably wouldn't feel the greatest.

Either way, it's a non-issue here.

You ended this fight the second you typed "Jiraiya has full intel", and not giving that same intel to the paths. And even in a fight where it's full intel vs full intel, SM Jiraiya still has the ability to come out on top. Not nearly as easy as this scenario, more of a 50/50 type deal, but still.
 

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Jiraiya would win based on your scenario. Pain even admit it.
Feats says otherwise.
I think it's pretty safe to say that what Pain meant by this:

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Is that if Jiraiya knew the abilities of the paths/rinnegan, and knew that 3 more paths would attack him after finishing those, they would have lost.

Some people try to take it as "Jiraiya could take all 6 paths and win", when I don't think it was intended that way, going off of the wording Nagato used.
 

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I think it's pretty safe to say that what Pain meant by this:

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Is that if Jiraiya knew the abilities of the paths/rinnegan, and knew that 3 more paths would attack him after finishing those, they would have lost.

Some people try to take it as "Jiraiya could take all 6 paths and win", when I don't think it was intended that way, going off of the wording Nagato used.
Thank you sir.​
 
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