Sakura vs Tsunade

[KidGamer65]

I can't believe people are seriously arguing for Sakura!

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I can't believe people are seriously implying 6 yr old Tsunade>Sakura in physical strength!

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[BLAZE]

I can't believe people are seriously implying 6 yr old Tsunade>Sakura in physical strength!

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Utter stompage

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Sakura didn't learn the Yin Seal "right after" getting out of the Academy. Sakura started to gather chakra for the Yin Seal during the time skip, which is months after she graduated from the academy.

It was less than half a year. That's still fresh out of the Academy.

Not really, and besides, it's still superficial damage done to Hachibi. Cutting off a lone horn isn't anything special.

Breaking bones is superficial?

Already covered the Tenpenchii stuff, and yes. VIZ and the Raws only say that his punch was powerful, not that it could knock him out. I'll have to find it though so I can post it.

I'll just ask the japanese translator on Naruto wiki.

Lol.....stabbing with a knife IS NOT a striking feat. Obviously. Does Sasuke get a feat for his striking strength when he stabs someone with his sword? No.

She stabbed Manda and slammed him to the ground. She put a great amount of force into that stab, that's a striking feat.

It's irrelevant who said it. If you think that 6 yr old Tsunade is superior to Sakura in strength, let me know now so I can stop wasting my time arguing with you.

That doesn't mean she was superior. Hashirama said Sakura "might" be stronger. That means he saw Tsunade pull off a similar feat.

She got Byakugo, which increases the power of the user.

It doesn't increase one's hand-to-hand combat skills.

No, she used it before, and she even said she'd use it to survive.

It was after. Let get the scans.

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(Now she activates it)

It was said to rip people into sheds. Yet Tsunade's wounds didn't come close to that.

Pretty sure she did.

It looked nothing like medical ninjutsu it was just mere tap.

She didn't though, they were all running low.

Yeah she did. She was fainting in chapter 685 from chakra exhausting. While she was still standing when Spiral Zetsu attacked them.

 

[KidGamer65]

It was less than half a year. That's still fresh out of the Academy.

Not really. Months of training and experience make a humongous difference.

Breaking bones is superficial?

No, but a broken horn to Hachibi is nothing like a broken bone to us, so why are you comparing the two? Kabuto had horns, Itachi cut one off...superficial damage.

I'll just ask the japanese translator on Naruto wiki.

Uh, okay.

She stabbed Manda and slammed him to the ground. She put a great amount of force into that stab, that's a striking feat.

Irrelevant if she slammed him down, she was using a sword, so it's not a striking strength feat.

That doesn't mean she was superior. Hashirama said Sakura "might" be stronger. That means he saw Tsunade pull off a similar feats.

"Might" means that there is a chance that Sakura is superior. Sakura's statement only

It doesn't increase one's hand-to-hand combat skills.

But it does increase speed and strength, which are pivotal parts of hand to hand combat.

It was after. Let get the scans.

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She clearly said she'll use her seal to survive.

It looked nothing like medical ninjutsu it was just mere tap.

That only means Tsunade can heal with a mere tap. Even if it was some kind of chakra transfer technique, (Doubt it)it proves nothing. Sakura had been fighting and Tsunade had been healed back to full strength. Also, how can you compare the two feats if Sakrua is using Medical Ninjutsu while Tsunade isn't?

Yeah she did. She was fainting in chapter 685 from chakra exhausting. While she was still standing when Spiral Zetsu attacked them.

Probably because she was overexerting herself at that instant, cause she was fine the rest of the time.

And no, she was near empty during the SZ fight.

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[King Of Pop]

I can't believe people are seriously arguing for Sakura!

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its a very close match, in no way is it unreasnable for sakura to win and vice versa.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Not really. Months of training and experience make a humongous difference.

We saw those months and there was no humongous difference in Sakura's skills by the end of part 1.

No, but a broken horn to Hachibi is nothing like a broken bone to us, so why are you comparing the two? Kabuto had horns, Itachi cut one off...superficial damage.

I'm saying that is possble that he could cut any bone in his body.

Irrelevant if she slammed him down, she was using a sword, so it's not a striking strength feat.

It's no different from striking someone with a bat.

"Might" means that there is a chance that Sakura is superior. Sakura's statement only

It also means that she wouldn't be a great deal stronger.

But it does increase speed and strength, which are pivotal parts of hand to hand combat.

Where was it stated that it increased speed?

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She clearly said she'll use her seal to survive.

I edited the links in my last post showing she doesn't activate it before the teleportion.

That only means Tsunade can heal with a mere tap. Even if it was some kind of chakra transfer technique, (Doubt it)it proves nothing. Sakura had been fighting and Tsunade had been healed back to full strength. Also, how can you compare the two feats if Sakrua is using Medical Ninjutsu while Tsunade isn't?

When medical ninjutsu is performed there is chakra shown around the hand. This goes for Tsunade as well. Shikamaru was suffering from chakra loss, so he was in need of a chakra transfer. Sakura had a power up at that moment(chakra cloak) and didn't fight much after getting the yin seal. I'm saying Tsunade>Sakura in stamina/chakra.

Probably because she was overexerting herself at that instant, cause she was fine the rest of the time.

And no, she was near empty during the SZ fight.

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She couldn't use medical ninjutsu at all here.

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[KidGamer65]

We saw those months and there was no humongous difference in Sakura's skills by the end of part 1.

Really?

I'm saying that is possble that he could cut any bone in his body.

Except he can't. Cutting off a horn

It's no different from striking someone with a bat.

Which doesn't go to the persons striking strength cause they used a weapon. Striking strength refers to bare hands, nothing else.

It also means that she wouldn't be a great deal stronger.

True.

Where was it stated that it increased speed?

It was shown. Sakura's speed right after opening the seal is better than any speed feat she's ever had, then there's the stuff she did during the Kaguya fight.

I edited the links in my last post showing she doesn't activate it before the teleportion.

Ok, point. Doesn't change much though.

When medical ninjutsu is performed there is chakra shown around the hand. This goes for Tsunade as well. Shikamaru was suffering from chakra loss, so he was in need of a chakra transfer. Sakura had a power up at that moment(chakra cloak) and didn't fight much after getting the yin seal. I'm saying Tsunade>Sakura in stamina/chakra.

Fine, I'll agree with the bold. Has no real bearing on the fight anyway.

She couldn't use medical ninjutsu at all here.

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Nope. She said that she won't as her chakra has a limit, and she needed to use the rest to save Sasuke. She clearly had chakra left otherwise the dimension searching would have ended there.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Really?

She learned to walk up a tree and that is pretty it.

Except he can't. Cutting off a horn

I don't think you finished your sentence.

Which doesn't go to the persons striking strength cause they used a weapon. Striking strength refers to bare hands, nothing else.

It still means that her punches can move boss summonings.

It was shown. Sakura's speed right after opening the seal is better than any speed feat she's ever had, then there's the stuff she did during the Kaguya fight.

Let's talk about the logic in the Kaguya fight below.

Nope. She said that she won't as her chakra has a limit, and she needed to use the rest to save Sasuke. She clearly had chakra left otherwise the dimension searching would have ended there.

That would imply she was getting low on chakra. Traveling through 5 dimesions made Kaguya's low on chakra.

 

[super yang]

I can't believe people are seriously implying 6 yr old Tsunade>Sakura in physical strength!

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I don't see how that's surprising in the least

...although I could understand why certain people would want that to be unthinkable. but it soooo is not~

 

[Made in Heaven]

Lol, this is incredibly hilarious coming from you.

5 Y/O Tsunade = Yin Seal Sakura in raw power :/

I can't believe people are seriously implying 6 yr old Tsunade>Sakura in physical strength!

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Manga > Your fanfic claims. Hashirama recalled Tsuande as a child. Hashirama compared that Tsunade to Yin Seal Sakura. If Kishi wanted to say Sakura was equal to current Tsunade, he should have done so through Shizune, but he clearly didn't. Again, I don't care about authorial intent, as if I did, I'd be saying Obito is the coolest guy right now, that Kaguya was an actual threat, that Neji's death was meaningful, that Bolt has the Byakugan, or that Naruto won that last fight against Sasuke.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

5 Y/O Tsunade = Yin Seal Sakura in raw power :/


Manga > Your fanfic claims. Hashirama recalled Tsuande as a child. Hashirama compared that Tsunade to Yin Seal Sakura. If Kishi wanted to say Sakura was equal to current Tsunade, he should have done so through Shizune, but he clearly didn't. Again, I don't care about authorial intent, as if I did, I'd be saying Obito is the coolest guy right now, that Kaguya was an actual threat, that Neji's death was meaningful, that Bolt has the Byakugan, or that Naruto won that last fight against Sasuke.

Tard level: Extreme, plz nerf.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Tard level: Extreme, plz nerf.

Is insulting me all you can do after being owned by facts? Lol

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Is insulting me all you can do after being owned by facts? Lol

You're trying to tell me I got owned by "facts" when there are other elements in the manga that disprove your stupid ass argument that Child Tsunade is anywhere near Sakura's level?? Lol, please...

Then again you do love your fanfics, given from what I've seen from you in any Hinata related topic. Lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

You're trying to tell me I got owned by "facts" when there are other elements in the manga that disprove your stupid ass argument that Child Tsunade is anywhere near Sakura's level?? Lol, please...

Then again you do love your fanfics, given from what I've seen from you in any Hinata related topic. Lol

Tsunade became a genin at 6, Sakura was learning the Yin seal [an S-rank jutsu] at 13, so how's it not hard to believe Tsunade had CES at 5 years old? [especially when you consider she also had Natural strength and was a Senju, unlike Sakura]

Because it would bring Sakura to shame, I assume?

Bringin up the fave of the person you're arguing with, huh? Butthurt levels are off the chart

 

[Gagster]

There isn't a single aspect Sakura has over Tsunade, none what-so-ever. Why would anyone think she wins?

 

[Made in Heaven]

There isn't a single aspect Sakura has over Tsunade, none what-so-ever. Why would anyone think she wins?

In contrast, Tsunade has many aspects over Sakura

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Tsunade became a genin at 6, Sakura was learning the Yin seal [an S-rank jutsu] at 13, so how's it not hard to believe Tsunade had CES at 5 years old? [especially when you consider she also had Natural strength and was a Senju, unlike Sakura]

Because it would bring Sakura to shame, I assume?

Bringin up the fave of the person you're arguing with, huh? Butthurt levels are off the chart

Because it doesn't matter what she did as a child off panel, only you and Man of Tard are making it seem this way, while MASSIVELY underrating Sakura and disregarding her feats to try and prove your retarded "point." On panel feats >>> arbitrary assumptions and fanfics based off of an offhand comment by another character. If you still want to continue arguing with this even though KidGamer and other posters shat on you and Man of Tard, it only shows just how much of an idiot you are.

P.S: Sakura still negs your fave. Lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

Because it doesn't matter what she did as a child off panel, only you and Man of Tard are making it seem this way, while MASSIVELY underrating Sakura and disregarding her feats to try and prove your retarded "point." On panel feats >>> arbitrary assumptions and fanfics based off of an offhand comment by another character. If you still want to continue arguing with this even though KidGamer and other posters shat on you and Man of Tard, it only shows just how much of an idiot you are.

P.S: Sakura still negs your fave. Lol

First off, take a chill pill, mate.

What she did off panel does matter when it was said her strength as a child before any actual training by hiruzen or getting he Yin seal is on par with Yin Seal Sakura's. This would factor in to the fight.

Even with on panel feats, Sakura still loses, and in the end, off panel facts still count as facts, otherwise, I'd be claiming Sakura can't use the Yin seal to heal because she never did so to the burn on her arm.

Not underrating her, it's just fact she's many times weaker than Tsunade. Couldn't even dodge Omoi's kick or a wooden spike. Meanwhile, Tsunade was fighting Madara head on as the main fighter.

And now you begin to disregard Hashirama's statement as pointless? Despite him knowing Tsunade personally ? Lol

I'm an idiot? So what exactly are you saying? That Tsunade at 5 isn't on par with YS Sakura in strength despite Hashirama saying so?

Answer this: Tsunade became a genin at 6, Sakura was learning the Yin seal [an S-rank jutsu] at 13, so how's it not hard to believe Tsunade had CES at 5 years old? [especially when you consider she also had Natural strength and was a Senju, unlike Sakura]

PS: Your Rustlement has been confirmed to be at the critical stage. I suggest seeking out medical attention.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

First off, take a chill pill, mate.

What she did off panel does matter when it was said her strength as a child before any actual training by hiruzen or getting he Yin seal is on par with Yin Seal Sakura's. This would factor in to the fight.

Even with on panel feats, Sakura still loses, and in the end, off panel facts still count as facts, otherwise, I'd be claiming Sakura can't use the Yin seal to heal because she never did so to the burn on her arm.

Not underrating her, it's just fact she's many times weaker than Tsunade. Couldn't even dodge Omoi's kick or a wooden spike. Meanwhile, Tsunade was fighting Madara head on as the main fighter.

And now you begin to disregard Hashirama's statement as pointless? Despite him knowing Tsunade personally ? Lol

I'm an idiot? So what exactly are you saying? That Tsunade at 5 isn't on par with YS Sakura in strength despite Hashirama saying so?

Answer this: Tsunade became a genin at 6, Sakura was learning the Yin seal [an S-rank jutsu] at 13, so how's it not hard to believe Tsunade had CES at 5 years old? [especially when you consider she also had Natural strength and was a Senju, unlike Sakura]

PS: Your Rustlement has been confirmed to be at the critical stage. I suggest seeking out medical attention.

So with this idiotic logic.... 5 year old Tsunade >>> Part 1 Adult Tsunade in terms of strength? Because Sakura's feat sure as hell shits all over anything Tsunade has shown in Part 1.

Except she later went on to dodge things MUCH faster like acid and Chakra arms. This point of yours has been mooted SEVERAL times in several different topics from different users, yet you still continue to use it. Textbook example of idiocy.

His statement is indeed irrelevant if he was using your logic of comparing Sakura to a baby, as it creates many inconsistencies with Tsunade herself. (Her 5 year old self would be physically stronger and have a more potent CES than her Part 1 adult self if this is the case, and don't try to say this isn't true, because War arc Sakura shits on Part 1 Tsunade by feats.)

P.S: I have no reason to be butthurt as Sakura negs your fave.

P.S.S: Your level of tard has reached a level off the scale, please proceed to the nearest insane asylum. Lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Manga > Your fanfic claims. Hashirama recalled Tsuande as a child. Hashirama compared that Tsunade to Yin Seal Sakura. If Kishi wanted to say Sakura was equal to current Tsunade, he should have done so through Shizune, but he clearly didn't. Again, I don't care about authorial intent, as if I did, I'd be saying Obito is the coolest guy right now, that Kaguya was an actual threat, that Neji's death was meaningful, that Bolt has the Byakugan, or that Naruto won that last fight against Sasuke.

You do know that I'm not taking any of your claims seriously right? Especially since you know what Kishi meant, but favor your own idiotic opinion. Lol.

I don't see how that's surprising in the least

...although I could understand why certain people would want that to be unthinkable. but it soooo is not~

What's not surprising, is that you think it's not surprising.

Go on thinking that a 5 yr old is more physically powerful than a teenager. Only an idiot would think that's possible, logically or physically.

She learned to walk up a tree and that is pretty it.

Meh.

I don't think you finished your sentence.

Oh shit, lol. I was going to say that cutting off a horn isn't a feat that lets him cut any body part on the Hachibi's body.

It still means that her punches can move boss summonings.

No, it doesn't. While she can, stabbing with a knife means nothing.

Let's talk about the logic in the Kaguya fight below.

Ok then.

That would imply she was getting low on chakra. Traveling through 5 dimesions made Kaguya's low on chakra.

Or it'd imply she's pumping too much into Obito, but when she stopped, she had time to recover, just like Amaterasu. Itachi is strained while using it, but recovers after he's done using it.

Nope. Switching everyone to the Lava, Ice, Gravity (3) lowered her chakra. Obito and Sakura only looked through the dimensions, they didn't enter them all.