Sakura vs Tsunade

[Madara no Rikudou]

dunno tbh, high dif either way.

Agree with this

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Ok sure, she was a Ninja. If you think that an Academy student can do that....then lol. Especially since said Academy student probably didn't even know a jutsu like CES nor did she know a jutsu that needs as much chakra control as the Byakugo Seal.

She most likely learned CES from Mito, her grandmother who also had the Byakugo Seal. Like how people in clans are taught hidden Jutsus at a young age. Learning that is probably what made her graduated from the academy at such a young age.

Canonically proved? If I used this logic, we'd be saying that 5 yr old Tsunade>Part 2 Tsunade>Part 1 Tsunade when it came to physical strength.

Not really. Part 2 Tsuande is stronger than Ay who can damage tailed beast and could KO KMC Naruto who survived Tenpenchii. Part 1 Tsunade had natural super strength as shown when she lifted up that giant swords and pwned a boss summoning with it. All which are more impressive than what Sakura did.

Hashirama never saw Tsunade at her best. He died long before she developed the Yin Seal, which happened after she left the village.

Even if Sakura had better chakra control Tsunade has real super strength, as oppose to Sakura who just releases chakra from her fist at the point of contact. Along with body pathway derangement, superior taijutsu(look at the databook stats), and a body tough enough to survive Heavenly Transfer Technique. As well as superior stamina as shown when Tsunade casually gave Shikamaru a chakra boost, something Sakura with Kyuubi chakra struggled to do.

 

[maniaoqan]

Tsunade has vastly larger chakra reserves due to her lineage and more experience due to her age. This battle is on Tsunade's favor.

 

[Narutohokage324]

Tsunade wins low diff. Sakura is nothing short of a watered-down tsunade, and while Tsunade has great speed and reflex feats, Sakura has the exact opposite in both categories.

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[KidGamer65]

She most likely learned CES from Mito, her grandmother who also had the Byakugo Seal. Like how people in clans are taught hidden Jutsus at a young age. Learning that is probably what made her graduated from the academy at such a young age.

Byakugo Seal and CES don't go hand in hand. Mito having the Byakugo Seal (Not even confirmed, but it's most likely true) isn't proof that she learned CES from her, nor is there any kind of evidence for that claim, or the claim that she learned it when she was 6. I mean, people, really now? CES requires precise chakra control, and the training is rigorous, yet you are implying Tsunade learned this as an Academy Student? Lol.....

Not really. Part 2 Tsuande is stronger than Ay who can damage tailed beast

Ay can deal superficial damage to a Bijuu at best. Not a feat.

and could KO KMC Naruto who survived Tenpenchii.

Naruto never said Ay can KO him in the accurate translation, nor is surviving Tenpenchii a feat when the energy is so spread out that the whole cloaked alliance survived it.

Part 1 Tsunade had natural super strength as shown when she lifted up that giant swords and pwned a boss summoning with it. All which are more impressive than what Sakura did.

Lol, God help you if you think lifting a giant knife>Creating a giant crater in the ground with a punch. Lifting and Striking aren't even the same. Is lifting a giant knife>Damaging Ribcage Susanoo? Lol. Nope.

Hashirama never saw Tsunade at her best. He died long before she developed the Yin Seal, which happened after she left the village.

Irrelevant. He only saw her as a kid, and we know that Kid Tsunade did not have the strength she has now, so there is no reason to believe Kishi meant to have Hashirama refer to her as a kid.

Even if Sakura had better chakra control Tsunade has real super strength, as oppose to Sakura who just releases chakra from her fist at the point of contact. Along with body pathway derangement, superior taijutsu(look at the databook stats), and a body tough enough to survive Heavenly Transfer Technique. As well as superior stamina as shown when Tsunade casually gave Shikamaru a chakra boost, something Sakura with Kyuubi chakra struggled to do.

-Irrelevant. Sakura doesn't need to have Natural Strength to be better than Tsunade in CES.

-Databook 3 went up until the Pain Arc. Sakura has made massive improvements since then.

-Her body isn't tough enough to survive the teleportation jutsu. She used Creation Rebirth to heal as she took damage.

-That wasn't a chakra boost, she healed him.

 

[Nattana]

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You seriously believe that Sakura is superior to Tsunade? Lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

You seriously believe that Sakura is superior to Tsunade? Lol.

-Better speed and reaction feats than Tsunade.

-Pretty much confirmed to have superior physical strength.

-Has enough chakra in her Yin Seal to help Obito look through Kaguya's dimensions, which takes a MASSIVE amount of chakra, chakra that Obito on his own doesn't have.

-Has the same summon as Tsunade.

-Has the same regeneration technique she has.

One hit is a KO for any of them since Byakugo won't heal you when you are dead, and Sakura is most likely to land the first hit since the AoE of her hits are larger due to her punches being stronger. If Tsunade wins, no way in hell is it this low diff BS I'm seeing on this thread.

 

[Beans2]

-Better speed and reaction feats than Tsunade.

-Pretty much confirmed to have superior physical strength.

-Has enough chakra in her Yin Seal to help Obito look through Kaguya's dimensions, which takes a MASSIVE amount of chakra, chakra that Obito on his own doesn't have.

-Has the same summon as Tsunade.

-Has the same regeneration technique she has.

One hit is a KO for any of them since Byakugo won't heal you when you are dead, and Sakura is most likely to land the first hit since the AoE of her hits are larger due to her punches being stronger. If Tsunade wins, no way in hell is it this low diff BS I'm seeing on this thread.

Theoretically don't Katsuyu's loyalties lie with Tsunade so if Sakura summons Katsuyu she would ally herself with Tsunade? And Tsunade > Sakura without Katsuyu.

 

[KidGamer65]

Theoretically don't Katsuyu's loyalties lie with Tsunade so if Sakura summons Katsuyu she would ally herself with Tsunade? And Tsunade > Sakura without Katsuyu.

Possibly, but there are multiple parts of Katsuyu, maybe she'll fight for both sides.

 

[Nattana]

-Better speed and reaction feats than Tsunade.

Like where did you see any comparable speed and reaction feats that made you believe Sakura is superi

-Pretty much confirmed to have superior physical strength.

Like where lol? Hashirama's statement means nothing, since he based it only on his assumptions about Tsunade's growth.

-Has enough chakra in her Yin Seal to help Obito look through Kaguya's dimensions, which takes a MASSIVE amount of chakra, chakra that Obito on his own doesn't have.

Yin Seal is used for storing MASSIVE amounts of chakra after all, so I don't see your point. Also, didn't Obito lose his Zetsu half when Naruto revived him?

-Has the same summon as Tsunade.

Which would most likely take Tsunade's side during that fight.

-Has the same regeneration technique she has.

Yeah.

One hit is a KO for any of them since Byakugo won't heal you when you are dead, and Sakura is most likely to land the first hit since the AoE of her hits are larger due to her punches being stronger. If Tsunade wins, no way in hell is it this low diff BS I'm seeing on this thread.

AoE attacks don't mean anything here. Both Sakura and Tsunade have to dodge the effects of AoE attacks and if Sakura can do that with ease, Tsunade can as well.
But if it comes down to a standard Taijutsu fight, CES becomes much less impactful, since in dynamic fights one can't spam prepared, focused punches screaming Shannaro. Not to mention, that simple, normal hits (which would be much easier to land) from Sakura would do absolutely nothing, while normal hits thrown by Tsunade are dangerous not only physically, but also due to her ability to use Ranshinshou.

 

[KidGamer65]

Like where did you see any comparable speed and reaction feats that made you believe Sakura is superi

-Matched the speed her punch caused the Juubi clone to move at.

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-Evaded the Majority of the Acid that appeared from the Space Time Portal Obito made.

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-Crossing the distance between Kakashi's Susanoo and Kaguya in a matter of seconds.

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-Reacting to her chakra arms, which are canonically stated to be fast.

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And she evaded it's initial attempt to grab her.

Like where lol? Hashirama's statement means nothing, since he based it only on his assumptions about Tsunade's growth.

Wasn't even referring to his statement.

-Tsunade doesn't have a feat that surpasses that punch.

-Sakura said "She doesn't need to use it to look younger" which implies that her strength is above Tsunade's, who uses a portion of the chakra to make herself look younger.

-Doesn't help that Byakugo is stated to increase the user's power, and Sakura wasn't even using Byakugo when she did that, meaning her punch in Byakugo would be even stronger.

Also, where is the bold coming from?

Yin Seal is used for storing MASSIVE amounts of chakra after all, so I don't see your point. Also, didn't Obito lose his Zetsu half when Naruto revived him?

The obvious point is, she has a lot of chakra, so there is no noticeable advantage on either side when it comes to stamina.

Lol, no...why would he lose half of his body from being revived?

Which would most likely take Tsunade's side during that fight.

Doesn't make Sakura inferior, so it's irrelevant.

AoE attacks don't mean anything here. Both Sakura and Tsunade have to dodge the effects of AoE attacks and if Sakura can do that with ease, Tsunade can as well.

Who said Sakura can dodge the AoE of her own punches with ease?

1. Sakura's punch>Tsunade's punch in every way, including AoE when we look at the feats.

2. Meaningless? Lol. If she dodges, that only leaves her less time to react to a follow up attack from Sakura, not saying she'll get hit right then and there, but AoE attacks obviously aren't meaningless because someone is fast to avoid them.

But if it comes down to a standard Taijutsu fight, CES becomes much less impactful, since in dynamic fights one can't spam prepared, focused punches screaming Shannaro.

And based on what is CES's impact lessened by a great degree in Taijutsu? Prepared? Focused? Lol, what? CES is nothing but putting chakra in her fist, and then releasing it when she strikes. You don't need preparation or a great degree of focus to do so, so there is no reason why it wouldn't work in standard Taijutsu.

Not to mention, that simple, normal hits (which would be much easier to land) from Sakura would do absolutely nothing, while normal hits thrown by Tsunade are dangerous not only physically, but also due to her ability to use Ranshinshou.

Good thing Sakura has no reason not to use CES while fighting Tsunade in close quarters. Good thing that there is no reason Sakura can't use CES in close quarters.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Byakugo Seal and CES don't go hand in hand. Mito having the Byakugo Seal (Not even confirmed, but it's most likely true) isn't proof that she learned CES from her, nor is there any kind of evidence for that claim, or the claim that she learned it when she was 6. I mean, people, really now? CES requires precise chakra control, and the training is rigorous, yet you are implying Tsunade learned this as an Academy Student? Lol.....

I meant to say say Yin Seal, which is the pinnacle of chakra control. Something a 13 year old(Sakura) who just got out of the Academy learnt. So recently academy graduated Tsunade knowing CES isn't far fetch.

Ay can deal superficial damage to a Bijuu at best. Not a feat.

Cutting off a horn is basically breaking a bone.

Naruto never said Ay can KO him in the accurate translation, nor is surviving Tenpenchii a feat when the energy is so spread out that the whole cloaked alliance survived it.

Are you sure that was accucate translation in the raw? Because even Naruto wiki has that. Tenpenchii left a crater that covered most of the frost country.

Lol, God help you if you think lifting a giant knife>Creating a giant crater in the ground with a punch. Lifting and Striking aren't even the same. Is lifting a giant knife>Damaging Ribcage Susanoo? Lol. Nope.

Stabbing through Manda and nailing to the ground is a great striking feat.

Irrelevant. He only saw her as a kid, and we know that Kid Tsunade did not have the strength she has now, so there is no reason to believe Kishi meant to have Hashirama refer to her as a kid.

Then I guess Sakura's feat is truly fodder to Tsunade. Lol If Kishi wanted Sakura to be compared to Tsunade at her best he would have Shizune say it.

-Irrelevant. Sakura doesn't need to have Natural Strength to be better than Tsunade in CES.

Wasn't my point.

-Databook 3 went up until the Pain Arc. Sakura has made massive improvements since then.

Massive improvement? The Kage Summit wasn't long ago in story where she got owned by that cloud ninja's kick.

-Her body isn't tough enough to survive the teleportation jutsu. She used Creation Rebirth to heal as she took damage.

She used Creation Rebirth after teleporting and kicking Madara with no problem.

-That wasn't a chakra boost, she healed him.

She didn't use medical ninjutsu.

-Crossing the distance between Kakashi's Susanoo and Kaguya in a matter of seconds.

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-Reacting to her chakra arms, which are canonically stated to be fast.

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And she evaded it's initial attempt to grab her.

Funny how Sakura never showed that kind of speed against Spiral Zetsu where she had more chakra.

That Kaguya fight and its inconsistenties. Lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

I can't believe people are seriously arguing for Sakura!

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[Nattana]

-Matched the speed her punch caused the Juubi clone to move at.

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-Evaded the Majority of the Acid that appeared from the Space Time Portal Obito made.

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-Crossing the distance between Kakashi's Susanoo and Kaguya in a matter of seconds.

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-Reacting to her chakra arms, which are canonically stated to be fast.

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And she evaded it's initial attempt to grab her.

1. There's 0 proof she matched that speed. Firstly, she only jumped and secondly it's all the matter of perspective.
2. Wow, an average reaction feat and a jump back. She did better in her fight against Sasori. I don't understand why you even brought it up.
3. Those weren't normal fighting conditions. You don't even know where she initially was prior to that punch. Irrelevant scan.
4. She saw the hand coming for her so she tried to jump away. She jumped once and it would've been over for her if it hadn't been for Kakashi. The hands were fast, obviously, but not fast enough to blitz. Not to mention Naruto warned Sasuke about the assault from multiple hands simultanoeusly, not about just 1 hand like in Sakura's case.

Hell, how are your arguments even proving Sakura's superiority over Tsunade in speed department?

-Tsunade doesn't have a feat that surpasses that punch.

-Sakura said "She doesn't need to use it to look younger" which implies that her strength is above Tsunade's, who uses a portion of the chakra to make herself look younger.

-Doesn't help that Byakugo is stated to increase the user's power, and Sakura wasn't even using Byakugo when she did that, meaning her punch in Byakugo would be even stronger.

What stops Tsunade from dispeling her Transformation Jutsu not to have her chakra pool lowered? Tsunade may not have a feat like that, because she never fought in similar conditions. Not to mention that Sakura was unfazed after her own punch, despite being in its epicenter, so Tsunade (who would have a lot of time to react and move away - mind you she's not a fodder Juubi clone) would take even less damage, if any.

Full powered Tsunade's punch would kill Sakura if it landed. No matter if she could replicate Sakura's feat or not.

The obvious point is, she has a lot of chakra, so there is no noticeable advantage on either side when it comes to stamina.

So Tsunade doesn't have a lot of chakra stored in her seal? What are you even talking about. Not to mention War Arc Sakura had stored chakra for 3 years to get her seal up. War Arc Tsunade didn't have as much obviously.

Lol, no...why would he lose half of his body from being revived?

It was reverted to his original body. Else he would've have bleeded from his BOTH eye sockets (during his and Sakura's dimension switching), since his Zetsu part doesn't have blood in it.

Doesn't make Sakura inferior, so it's irrelevant.

Actually it is very relevant. Having Katsuyu on your side and not having her makes a difference. 2vs1 makes the battle much more difficult than 1vs1. It's not a linear correlation.

Who said Sakura can dodge the AoE of her own punches with ease?

It doesn't really matter if she can. She already withstood her own punch's AoE, since she obviously was in the epicenter of it when she hit the ground.

1. Sakura's punch>Tsunade's punch in every way, including AoE when we look at the feats.

Sakura's direct punch couldn't even create a hole in a Juubi clone's chest. Don't compare AoE to single target.

2. Meaningless? Lol. If she dodges, that only leaves her less time to react to a follow up attack from Sakura, not saying she'll get hit right then and there, but AoE attacks obviously aren't meaningless because someone is fast to avoid them.

Sakura jumps up and executes her punch. By the time she lands, Tsunade has already jumped back. So basically the situation is exactly the same as it was before anything happened. Sakura isn't blitzing Tsunade and she won't have any time window to catch her off-guard, since Sakura has to deal with the effects of her own punch as well.

And based on what is CES's impact lessened by a great degree in Taijutsu? Prepared? Focused? Lol, what? CES is nothing but putting chakra in her fist, and then releasing it when she strikes. You don't need preparation or a great degree of focus to do so, so there is no reason why it wouldn't work in standard Taijutsu.

That's how CES was presented in Naruto. One has to clench their fist and make a swing to produce the best result. If it wasn't needed, then one would simply give up on such things (clenching, swinging) that only restrict your movenets and force you to attack in straight, predictible patterns. They would simply go for different, fluent moves just to make sure they can touch their opponent and release the focused chakra. But sadly it doesn't work like that.

Good thing Sakura has no reason not to use CES while fighting Tsunade in close quarters. Good thing that there is no reason Sakura can't use CES in close quarters.

Doesn't matter. It all comes down to Taijutsu, not pure CES or running speed, which is close to being irrelevant here. Movement speed has almost nothing to do with fighting speed, reactions and stuff.
Not to mention Ranshinshou shits on Sakura.

 

[KidGamer65]

I meant to say say Yin Seal, which is the pinnacle of chakra control. Something a 13 year old(Sakura) who just got out of the Academy learnt. So recently academy graduated Tsunade knowing CES isn't far fetch.

Sakura didn't learn the Yin Seal "right after" getting out of the Academy. Sakura started to gather chakra for the Yin Seal during the time skip, which is months after she graduated from the academy.

Cutting off a horn is basically breaking a bone.

Not really, and besides, it's still superficial damage done to Hachibi. Cutting off a lone horn isn't anything special.

Are you sure that was accucate translation in the raw? Because even Naruto wiki has that. Tenpenchii left a crater that covered most of the frost country.

Already covered the Tenpenchii stuff, and yes. VIZ and the Raws only say that his punch was powerful, not that it could knock him out. I'll have to find it though so I can post it.

Stabbing through Manda and nailing to the ground is a great striking feat.

Lol.....stabbing with a knife IS NOT a striking feat. Obviously. Does Sasuke get a feat for his striking strength when he stabs someone with his sword? No.

Then I guess Sakura's feat is truly fodder to Tsunade. Lol If Kishi wanted Sakura to be compared to Tsunade at her best he would have Shizune say it.

It's irrelevant who said it. If you think that 6 yr old Tsunade is superior to Sakura in strength, let me know now so I can stop wasting my time arguing with you.

Massive improvement? The Kage Summit wasn't long ago in story where she got owned by that cloud ninja's kick.

She got Byakugo, which increases the power of the user.

She used Creation Rebirth after teleporting and kicking Madara with no problem.

No, she used it before, and she even said she'd use it to survive.

She didn't use medical ninjutsu.

Pretty sure she did.

Funny how Sakura never showed that kind of speed against Spiral Zetsu where she had more chakra.

She didn't though, they were all running low.

 

[Beans2]

I can't believe people are seriously arguing for Sakura!

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Because she is superior.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

I can't believe people are seriously arguing for Sakura!

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Lol, this is incredibly hilarious coming from you.

 

[KidGamer65]

1. There's 0 proof she matched that speed. Firstly, she only jumped and secondly it's all the matter of perspective.

I suggest you read the scan.

-Punches Juubi Clone.

-Jumps right above it, off by a little bit.

That is impossible if she's not moving at a speed close to the speed of the Juubi clone.

2. Wow, an average reaction feat and a jump back. She did better in her fight against Sasori. I don't understand why you even brought it up.

Reacting to Acid spawning less than 10m above you, and then evading isn't "an average" reaction feat.

Acid pouring out from a space time portal>Sasori's puppets in speed.

3. Those weren't normal fighting conditions. You don't even know where she initially was prior to that punch. Irrelevant scan.

She was shown inside Susanoo, so that's where she was. Normal fighting conditions? Does that change how fast she crossed said distance? No, so..irrelevant "counter", unless you can explain to me how the conditions invalidate the feat.

4. She saw the hand coming for her so she tried to jump away. She jumped once and it would've been over for her if it hadn't been for Kakashi. The hands were fast, obviously, but not fast enough to blitz. Not to mention Naruto warned Sasuke about the assault from multiple hands simultanoeusly, not about just 1 hand like in Sakura's case.

If only anything in this part of your post actually debunked anything I said.

-Doesn't change the fact she evaded it's initial attempt to grab her.

-Doesn't change the fact she reacted to it.

The hands weren't fast enough to blitz, obviously, since she reacted.

Lol, multiple hands? Nice attempt at twisting the manga. 1 hand attacked Naruto and Sasuke, so Naruto knocked Sasuke away and used his clone to intercept it, and that's how Naruto assessed that they were fast. Not to mention he came out and said "They are too damn fast". Their speed isn't going to change whether 1 or 8 come at them at once.

Hell, how are your arguments even proving Sakura's superiority over Tsunade in speed department?

Tsunade has no speed feats above these. That simple.

What stops Tsunade from dispeling her Transformation Jutsu not to have her chakra pool lowered

Probably the fact she is old as hell without it, which would only weaken her physical strength.

Tsunade may not have a feat like that, because she never fought in similar conditions.

Not an excuse. She's had many opportunities to display her strength, and they don't surpass what Sakura did.

Not to mention that Sakura was unfazed after her own punch, despite being in its epicenter, so Tsunade (who would have a lot of time to react and move away - mind you she's not a fodder Juubi clone) would take even less damage, if any.

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The energy from her punch goes outwards with the fist as the epicenter, meaning she herself takes no damage. If I used this nonsense logic, none of the Juubi clones would have taken any damage, but they did, so this is wrong.

Full powered Tsunade's punch would kill Sakura if it landed. No matter if she could replicate Sakura's feat or not.

Already said this, nor does it change any of my points.

So Tsunade doesn't have a lot of chakra stored in her seal? What are you even talking about. Not to mention War Arc Sakura had stored chakra for 3 years to get her seal up. War Arc Tsunade didn't have as much obviously.

Lol, can you read? If this is what we are going to be doing, please spare me the headache. Sakura having a lot in her seal doesn't mean that Tsunade doesn't have a lot. Never once stated or implied that, in fact, I implied the opposite. I said that when it comes to stamina and chakra, there is no apparent advantage for either side.

Read before you reply.

It was reverted to his original body. Else he would've have bleeded from his BOTH eye sockets (during his and Sakura's dimension switching), since his Zetsu part doesn't have blood in it.

Uh......where are you even getting this from? Not only does this make zero sense, why would Naruto using Yang Release to revitalize Obito change the composition of his whole entire body? Lmao. Not to mention half of Obito's whole body isn't Zetsu, only his torso area and his arm. His head obviously isn't half Zetsu, so there is no reason for him not to bleed out of both eyes.

Actually it is very relevant. Having Katsuyu on your side and not having her makes a difference. 2vs1 makes the battle much more difficult than 1vs1. It's not a linear correlation.

I said that Sakura is stronger than Tsunade. Strength isn't ranked based on who beats who. If we are comparing their strength, we compare them with all their abilities, we don't take Katsuyu away from Sakura and give it to Tsunade and say she's stronger.

As for the VS thread, there are multiple portions of Katsuyu. Katsuyu has no reason to ditch Sakura and go help Tsunade when they can each summon their own Katsuyu. And if Tsunade really is stronger, then we wouldn't need to resort to argumentation like "Summons are loyal to her" in order to argue for her victory.

It doesn't really matter if she can. She already withstood her own punch's AoE, since she obviously was in the epicenter of it when she hit the ground.

Read above has to why this makes no sense.

Sakura's direct punch couldn't even create a hole in a Juubi clone's chest. Don't compare AoE to single target.

Actually, there was a small hole in it's chest. Not seeing how this is relevant to what I stated though considering you have no evidence for Tsunade's punch being able to do any better.

Sakura jumps up and executes her punch. By the time she lands, Tsunade has already jumped back. So basically the situation is exactly the same as it was before anything happened. Sakura isn't blitzing Tsunade and she won't have any time window to catch her off-guard, since Sakura has to deal with the effects of her own punch as well.

Who told you she has to jump up to use CES? She doesn't need that kind of power to kill Tsunade in one shot.

That's how CES was presented in Naruto. One has to clench their fist and make a swing to produce the best result. If it wasn't needed

Um, that's how ALL punches work. Lol. You clench your fist and you swing, the only difference here is the chakra inside is released when you hit the target. I don't know why you are trying to separate CES punches and normal punches like they are performed differently.....but stop it, it makes no sense.

then one would simply give up on such things (clenching, swinging) that only restrict your movenets and force you to attack in straight, predictible patterns. They would simply go for different, fluent moves just to make sure they can touch their opponent and release the focused chakra. But sadly it doesn't work like that.

Read above.

Doesn't matter. It all comes down to Taijutsu, not pure CES or running speed, which is close to being irrelevant here. Movement speed has almost nothing to do with fighting speed, reactions and stuff.

1. You've failed to show me why CES can't be used in CQC. Your own explanation doesn't even work for your argument, since CES and punching work the same way.

2. Movement speed? Irrelevant? Dafuq? The faster you move your body, the faster you will be able to attack. The faster you run, the faster you can move your body. Apart from Shunshin, all bodily movement speed of any kind go hand in hand.

Not to mention Ranshinshou shits on Sakura.

Assuming she lands it before Sakura hits her and kills her.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not to mention I can also use this logic and say that Orochimaru and Kabuto could have sat there and tanked this kick with no damage.

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Despite Oro saying that one hit can end your life.

? Lol

 

[Xlad]

Well damn...