What was wrong with infinity Tsukyomi

UchihaGodMadara

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Wasn't everybody happy in their dreams?
What was flawed about it? Nothing?
 

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dreams are something that come true dattebayo!
 

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It's not infinite tsukuyomi itself that's bad, it's forcing people who don't want to be part of it into it that's bad
 

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While the concept and ideals were for a "good cause" it still isn't reality. The fact is, is that IT is just an escape for people from reality into dreams. Something people do today. Plus everyone would've turned into black zetsu.
 

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While the concept and ideals were for a "good cause" it still isn't reality. The fact is, is that IT is just an escape for people from reality into dreams. Something people do today. Plus everyone would've turned into white zetsu.
 

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bruh would u wanna be a fodder white zetsu and take orders from that one mamas boy(black zetsu) and his mama(only idiots wouldn't get it by now)
 

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Well if everyone could be in a place where they were happy forever what's the problem, who needs reality , and I'm talking about be for Kaguya was introduced and started talking about turning everyone into zetsus
 

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Well if everyone could be in a place where they were happy forever what's the problem, who needs reality , and I'm talking about be for Kaguya was introduced and started talking about turning everyone into zetsus

Some people prefer real things, to some the world isn't interesting if everything goes your way
 

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Some people prefer real things, to some the world isn't interesting if everything goes your way
If it's your dream world and you didn't want things to go your way wouldn't you get it that way? Honestly, there is no difference between what is real and what isn't in this case.

It's like Itachi said, reality is merely a vague concept.
 

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If it's your dream world and you didn't want things to go your way wouldn't you get it that way? Honestly, there is no difference between what is real and what isn't in this case.

It's like Itachi said, reality is merely a vague concept.

Yes, but you are missing the point. What you want is limited by your imagination, if you don't want things to go your way the only things that go wrong will be what you can imagine may go wrong. In the real world however something unpredictable, inconceivable may occur.

The real world for people of that kind is above an illusion dream world
 

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Lol In no way shape or form does IT have to do with reality. It's basically forcing people to sleep for all eternity.
 

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Yes, but you are missing the point. What you want is limited by your imagination, if you don't want things to go your way the only things that go wrong will be what you can imagine may go wrong. In the real world however something unpredictable, inconceivable may occur.

The real world for people of that kind is above an illusion dream world

Your sig gobbles balls.
 

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Yes, but you are missing the point. What you want is limited by your imagination, if you don't want things to go your way the only things that go wrong will be what you can imagine may go wrong. In the real world however something unpredictable, inconceivable may occur.

The real world for people of that kind is above an illusion dream world
Is that how it works? So basically it's completely scripted? I thought you can just think of having no control in the dream and since that's your dream it'll happen.
 

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Is that how it works? So basically it's completely scripted? I thought you can just think of having no control in the dream and since that's your dream it'll happen.

Madaras method sucked fish at least Obito was gonna create one world for everyone that way he'd be in control of what happens.
 
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Infinite Tsukuyomi is an ideal dream. Aside from the fact that those trapped (key word: trapped) in it will eventually turn into a white zetsu, this is not bad, as by then their personality/memory of being human would have been long gone. The main problem that I personally have with Infinite Tsukuyomi is the fact that it is limited by my ego.

The illusion that you find yourself trapped in is determined by your greatest wishes, dreams, hopes, etc. But THIS is the problem. It is limited by what you think is happiness at one moment in time, while reality, though much more bitter, offers potential in the form of happiness that you could not even begin to conceive. For example, Hinata dreaming of Neji being alive and being on a date with Naruto was as far as she could see her happiness at the time. But, I am sure that she could not even begin to imagine the new, modern world that the entire Naruto universe has entered (complete with the modern skyscrapers and whatever else they have.) In her dream the world may have continued being at war and there may have been no technological advances, whereas in reality they have computers and she has two children. The point I am trying to make is that Hinata's reality seems a lot better than her Infinite Tsukuyomi dream, and this is only one study.

Infinite Tsukuyomi gives you a dream limited by your ego, whereas reality, something shared with everyone else in the world, can sometimes surprise you by being better than your "wildest dreams."

What do you think?
 

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Madaras method sucked fish at least Obito was gonna create one world for everyone that way he'd be in control of what happens.

i dont think madara and obito knew how IT worked exactly. they didnt even put themselves in lol
 
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