Minato Tobirama & Obito vs 3rd raikage A & Killerbee

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^Um, it was the Third Raikage that taught Darui how to utilize black lightning. They're the only two that have the lightning tattoo signifying its use. Logically, the Sandaime should be able to use Raiton: Kuropansa, even though he's never shown it in the manga. Besides, it doesn't have much utility in this match.
 

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Minato, Tobirama and Obito win neg diff as a team.
 

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Bee spams 3-4 bijuudama and it's over, minato took quite a while sealing 1 bijuudama, bee stomps.
Not before he's trapped inside Uchiha flame barrier. Or Obito could simply warp his team out of the way.
Team Kumo wins this high diff

--No one in this team has a shot at taking out Killer Bee once he goes full hachibi, obito is not warping him before the raikages attack him, nor are the hokages countering his fiirepower, so he fires off Bijuu Waves which counters FTG and the S/T barrier hard, and nukes the hokages completely, the closer minato/tobiirama attempt to fight, the worse it gets for them

That's completely false. Gojo,Huge Shurikens through Hachibi's face should do the trick don't forget they already pieced his body like was nothing. Constant explosives from Gojo would ruin Hachibi. Minato and Tobirama makes 3 clones each which proceed to fight and tag both Ei and 3rd Raikage they are useless in this battle. Also if Bee tries to fire multiple Tbb's at 65m he'll not only kill the 3rd Raikage and Ei he'll easily get caught in the explosion himself.

--the hokages are not countering TBB barrages either, they cant evade its blast radius, they are certainly not tanking it, nor are they teleporting multiple TBBs before they get vaporised to dust,

--Obito gets raped against the raikages here as well, he cant hurt them, and his only viable option here is kamui, which is even worse when he gets attacked by any of the raikage the moment he solidifies to warp any of them, and him warping either of them to kamui is also worse when he gets massacred from both the dimension the moment he attempts to use intangibility
Obito simply warps his team out of the way of the incoming tbb's also you realize 4 tbb's aoe is far big enough to cover an aoe of 65m which means he nukes his team in the process. Obito toys with the Raikages. 3rd Raikage couldn't even land a hit on SM Naruto his speed is a non factor here. Not when he can get some aid from Tobirama and Minato clones. Also with Izanagi he can warp one of them while taking a hit from the other. Once Minato and Tobirama gets the Kunai over the BF it's game over.
 
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Not before he's trapped inside Uchiha flame barrier. Or Obito could simply warp his team out of the way.

That's completely false. Gojo,Huge Shurikens through Hachibi's face should do the trick don't forget they already pieced his body like was nothing. Constant explosives from Gojo would ruin Hachibi. Minato and Tobirama makes 3 clones each which proceed to fight and tag both Ei and 3rd Raikage they are useless in this battle. Also if Bee tries to fire multiple Tbb's at 65m he'll not only kill the 3rd Raikage and Ei he'll easily get caught in the explosion himself.


Obito simply warps his team out of the way of the incoming tbb's also you realize 4 tbb's aoe is far big enough to cover an aoe of 65m which means he nukes his team in the process. Obito toys with the Raikages. 3rd Raikage couldn't even land a hit on SM Naruto his speed is a non factor here. Not when he can get some aid from Tobirama and Minato clones. Also with Izanagi he can warp one of them while taking a hit from the other. Once Minato and Tobirama gets the Kunai over the BF it's game over.

Who do you think obito is? he ain't that fast.
 

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Who do you think obito is? he ain't that fast.

Isn't fast enough to do what? Dodge the 3rd Raikage and Ei? Considering he already played with KM who is faster than the 3rd and just as fast as Ei is not fast and Gai + Kakashi so yea he's not getting touched here at all. Warping his team from Bijuudama's is an easy feat seeing as Bee doesn't transform instantly nor can he shoot a bijuudama instantly. So please tell where/how am i overrating Obito's speed?
 
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Isn't fast enough to do what? Dodge the 3rd Raikage and Ei? Considering he already played with KM who is faster than the 3rd and just as fast as Ei is not fast and Gai + Kakashi so yea he's not getting touched here at all. Warping his team from Bijuudama's is an easy feat seeing as Bee doesn't transform instantly nor can he shoot a bijuudama instantly. So please tell where/how am i overrating Obito's speed?

Playing with KM? lel, he got fodderized.
Also, neither Kakashi or gai in base are as fast as A in v2 state.
Obito's only hope is kamui.
 

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Playing with KM? lel, he got fodderized.
Also, neither Kakashi or gai in base are as fast as A in v2 state.
Obito's only hope is kamui.
Obito got fodderized by KM Naruto? But Naruto is that was the entire point of me mentioning him. That's all Obito need is Kamui.
 
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Obito got fodderized by KM Naruto? But Naruto is that was the entire point of me mentioning him. That's all Obito need is Kamui.
V2 State enhances reflexes and reaction speed, Obito can't sit in kamui land the whole fight, otherwise the fight is going nowhere.
 

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V2 State enhances reflexes and reaction speed, Obito can't sit in kamui land the whole fight, otherwise the fight is going nowhere.
Ei v2 speed is mediocre at best. KM Naruto who dodged v2 Ei fastest punch would have been low diffed by Kamui if it wasn't for the help of Kakashi Gai and Bee. Kamui speed is leagues above v2 Ei speed enough with the none sense.
 
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Ei v2 speed is mediocre at best. KM Naruto who dodged v2 Ei fastest punch would have been low diffed by Kamui if it wasn't for the help of Kakashi Gai and Bee. Kamui speed is leagues above v2 Ei speed enough with the none sense.

Strongest punch? yeah i don't think so, it was just a regular punch.
 

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your wrong as usual

1 problem. He is right.

Other things you are overlooking:

- Nobody from kumo's team is on Tobirama's level, so they do have the strongest guy out of the 6.

- Nobody on Kumo's team is as smart as Tobirama.

- Tobirama's team has speed, and more ninjutsu prowess

- Tobirama himself has more chakra than anyone on Kumo's side except maybe Killer B. And then Minato has SM, which puts him above Kumo in chakra except Killer B of course.

Do tell me whats stopping Minato and Tobirama from doing a variation of this technique , by using Obito's kamui?
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Tobirama can also easily cut the 8-tail's tails off with the water jutsu.
 
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1 problem. He is right.

Other things you are overlooking:

- Nobody from kumo's team is on Tobirama's level, so they do have the strongest guy out of the 6.

- Nobody on Kumo's team is as smart as Tobirama.

- Tobirama's team has speed, and more ninjutsu prowess

- Tobirama himself has more chakra than anyone on Kumo's side except maybe Killer B. And then Minato has SM, which puts him above Kumo in chakra except Killer B of course.

Do tell me whats stopping Minato and Tobirama from doing a variation of this technique , by using Obito's kamui?
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Tobirama can also easily cut the 8-tail's tails off with the water jutsu.

Ah, expected a comment from you, biggest senju fapboy.
Tobirama's arsenal is water jutsu, lightning style counters that.
I'd say A and Tobirama have the same amount of chakra, when Karin first saw a she said he's a chakra monster.
 

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1 problem. He is right.

Other things you are overlooking:

- Nobody from kumo's team is on Tobirama's level, so they do have the strongest guy out of the 6.

- Nobody on Kumo's team is as smart as Tobirama.

- Tobirama's team has speed, and more ninjutsu prowess

- Tobirama himself has more chakra than anyone on Kumo's side except maybe Killer B. And then Minato has SM, which puts him above Kumo in chakra except Killer B of course.

Do tell me whats stopping Minato and Tobirama from doing a variation of this technique , by using Obito's kamui?
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Tobirama can also easily cut the 8-tail's tails off with the water jutsu.

Thank you...
 

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What? Team s/t wins low diff. Why the fck is this 3 pages.
Heck obito might solo.
 

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Ah, expected a comment from you, biggest senju fapboy.
Tobirama's arsenal is water jutsu, lightning style counters that.
I'd say A and Tobirama have the same amount of chakra, when Karin first saw a she said he's a chakra monster.
You can call me a senju fapboy all you want, you still ain't countering anything i said. Because in canon those 3 shinobi are a superior team. And have a better arsenal.

Show me Ay being able to crack walls by simply raising up his chakra , and making a dense pressure in the room, please f*cking show me.. hes no where near Tobirama's chakra level, only person that has a chance is Killer B in regards to chakra comparison.

Tobirama's arsenal is water jutsu + FTG + shunshin+ Kenjutsu mastery + Taijutsu + Shadow clones ......

Killer B's Bijuu mode is also gonna be useless, Tobirama will simply cut them tentacles up like he did with God tree branches.
 
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You can call me a senju fapboy all you want, you still ain't countering anything i said. Because in canon those 3 shinobi are a superior team. And have a better arsenal.

Show me Ay being able to crack walls by simply raising up his chakra , and making a dense pressure in the room, please f*cking show me.. hes no where near Tobirama's chakra level, only person that has a chance is Killer B in regards to chakra comparison.

Tobirama's arsenal is water jutsu + FTG + shunshin+ Kenjutsu mastery + Taijutsu + Shadow clones ......

Killer B's Bijuu mode is also gonna be useless, Tobirama will simply cut them tentacles up like he did with God tree branches.

Rofl, overrating Tobirama, fodder got wrecked by wannabe 9 tail's jinchuuriki.
Bee's chakra>Tobirama , no question about it.
His water style is fodder, none of them can do alote of damage.
I will give you that Tobirama is smart, but that's about it.
 

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Rofl, overrating Tobirama, fodder got wrecked by wannabe 9 tail's jinchuuriki.
Bee's chakra>Tobirama , no question about it.
His water style is fodder, none of them can do alote of damage.
I will give you that Tobirama is smart, but that's about it.
-why talk about a event in the manga, if you aren't going to bother learning properly about it?

-There is a question about it. When Kurama's chakra is only comparable to Hashirama , who breaks a whole room by raising his chakra. And then his brother aka Tobirama cracks a wall by raising his chakra.... And we know for a fact Kurama's chakra level >> Other Tailed beasts by a large margin... So going by Logic, Tobirama either has higher or near 8-tails chakra (who isn't even close to Kurama's chakra level).

- His water style is fodder, we only saw him use 1 water style jutsu in edo tensei when near his full power, and it sliced up the god tree branches easily.. And last time i checked Minato with a Kunai was able to cut Killer B's tails.. now just imagine Tobirama doing the samething to Killer B's tails with that water jutsu.... so yea.. it sure is fodder rofl.
 
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