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Naruto can indeed "solo" 99.9% of the NV. Sasuke can also solo 99.9% but when it comes to facing each other, they are about equal. Not going to enter in a discussion about this, half of you freaks never get a single thing. Shocker.
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Because he didnt lose the fight.He lost the fight of ideologies."I lost" is a metaphor.The physical fight was a draw as both of them were unable to move not to mention the fight was 2 v 1 with Naruto being helped by Yin Kurama who had suffered the least strain due to fighting less
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I don't know why people always bring up the 2 vs 1 when the only thing Kurama told Naruto in the fight was that his chakra was low, and that he gathered natural energy (Sasuke used the Bijuu's though). If we are playing that game, technically it was 2 vs 9 + 1 (Itachi's eyes)
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Eyes ≠ A living entity assisting you in battle.
The bijuus werent assisting Sasuke.He simply used their chakra which he rightfully acquired by force.Kurama was gathering chakra for Naruto and when it got out of chakra Naruto used to use his own and YET Sasuke drew the fight.
If you remove Kurama from the fight Naruto would have lost badly
Such a lame response.. I'm one to never say it was 2 vs 1 because that's how it always will be when facing naruto.. Kurama is part of Naruto's power.. But to say Sasuke was help by the bijuu is just stupid.. Sasuke took there chakra, it wasn't given. They also didn't give Sasuke any type of knowledge of the opponent or advice..
Plus itachi's eyes??, smh.
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Yes, yes, yes. Lets make another excuses for Sasuke's loss. Manga never mentioned that it was battle of ideologies .
[/QUOTE] Naruto should outlive Sasuke due to his Uzumaki bloodline not to mention that it was Sasuke+yang Kurama+Matatabi+Kakuo+Chomei+Saiken+Guyku+Shukaku+Son Goku+Isobu vs Naruto and Ying Kurama.
They give him another advantages.
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Naruto should outlive Sasuke due to his Uzumaki bloodline not to mention that it was Sasuke+yang Kurama+Matatabi+Kakuo+Chomei+Saiken+Guyku+Shukaku+Son Goku+Isobu vs Naruto and Ying Kurama. They give him another advantages.[/QUOTE]
Nice headcanon.As far as facts go both were still unable to move after 24 hours and in such a case the fight is easily a draw
And yes that was a fight of idealogies.Naruto mentions it a few times
"This isnt how I want to fight you"
"This isnt a fight you can win or lose until I can smack some sense into you" or something along those lines
Then in 699 Sasuke says "Then we will have our real fight"
He simply used the chakra of the other beasts while Naruto was actually being given advice and assisted in battle.There is a difference
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That's true but we have to think at it from a fighting standpoint. Naruto and Kurama coexist with eachother as one entity, with cooperation. Naruto did not ask for this power, but merely learned to use it. Sasuke on the other hand asked for Itachi’s eyes, but in eye form it does grant a living entity, it does however provide power on equal to that of two Uchiha’s.
Naruto would have been able to gather Natural energy for himself, at that caliber, I have no idea. Though this is what Ashura/Indra parallel between Naruto/Sasuke. Naruto is not alone, and Sasuke is (scratching off the Bijuu here for a moment).
Sasuke can’t ask the Bijuu for help, nor will they, he can only force the power upon himself. Despite that the fight was clearly Naruto vs Sasuke, but on “that sort of thinking”, it was Naruto/Kurama vs Sasuke/All Nine Tailed beasts
If you remove Itachi's eyes, Sasuke would of been blind by now U_U
Naruto should outlive Sasuke due to his Uzumaki bloodline not to mention that it was Sasuke+yang Kurama+Matatabi+Kakuo+Chomei+Saiken+Guyku+Shukaku+Son Goku+Isobu vs Naruto and Ying Kurama. They give him another advantages.[/QUOTE]
They didn't give him anything.
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They didn't give him anything.[/QUOTE]
Kurama did not give Naruto fighting tips throughout his fight with Sasuke. He helped him with I. Natural Energy and II. Told him that his chakra was low and this was the last thing he could do for him before he went to "sleep."
Why are you guys doing this? Here: Naruto had the bijuu chakra of every bijuu in him, as did Sasuke. Naruto had Kurama on his side though, a living entity. Not comparable to a "tool".
Why are Naruto fans so much against Narutos ideologie? Yes, he tied with Sasuke through cooperation, yes it is in a way "his" power, I won't deny it. But c'mon, Naruto is all about cooperation, friendship and that stuff while Sasuke is all about doing stuff on his own. You can't be serious if you say it was a 1 vs 10 now? God...
Both 1 vs 1 and 2 v 1 are acceptable. It's all about your opinion on the matter.
Why are Naruto fans so much against Narutos ideologie? Yes, he tied with Sasuke through cooperation, yes it is in a way "his" power, I won't deny it. But c'mon, Naruto is all about cooperation, friendship and that stuff while Sasuke is all about doing stuff on his own. You can't be serious if you say it was a 1 vs 10 now? God...
Both 1 vs 1 and 2 v 1 are acceptable. It's all about your opinion on the matter.
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Finally someone who gets it.
Yes Naruto had Kurama, but he uses cooperation to fight. It's the Ashura way, but most radical Sasuke fans (not you) try to say he was cheating Lol
My response: "Really?" Then I respond with 2 vs 10 which isn't really better. Though I admit when when I lose a point.