For those people who believe in "Big bang" theory

[Venomous Cobra]

The theory literary says that electrons came out of "X"(unknown place) to preform the first shape of light.
And the universe based on the theory has no ending what so ever,it actually expendes throughout the years.


so can someone explain how can a person who denys the "god's" existence believe such a poor quality assumptionxd

 

[Joker]

"Poor quality assumption"

Oh, because there's more proof pointing to a magical man in the sky, right?

 

[V h o]

Lol nothing proves atheism. U_U

they trying to be "as far as possible from anything that includes the higher power"

i do however think that its possible that electrons were part of the non-ending universe

Yeah I know, science for the most part likes to separate itself away from religion, which proof is highly controversial, since science is provable. Although science itself is just trial and error, many crackpot theories were made before the truth or what we believe is the truth was discovered. Let us not forget that before people/scientist believed that the earth was flat, sun orbited the earth, and all other type of "theories" that were debunked.

 

[Cunning Linguist]

Lol nothing proves atheism. U_U



Yeah I know, science for the most part likes to separate itself away from religion, which proof is highly controversial, since science is provable. Although science itself is just trial and error, many crackpot theories were made before the truth or what we believe is the truth was discovered. Let us not forget that before people/scientist believed that the earth was flat, sun orbited the earth, and all other type of "theories" that were debunked.

Who believed the Earth was flat? The Ancient Greeks knew it was round. Christopher Columbus certainly knew the Earth was round. He just didn't know it was so large. Geocentric views were a result of the Catholic Church since the Greeks generally believed in a heliocentric model. Geocentric goes along with the Bible and the Church pushed that theory. Anyone who spoke out against it was labeled a heretic. Like Copernicus. So really religion inhibited science for hundreds of years

 

[Venomous Cobra]

And you realize believing in the Big Bang Theory can be called a belief too, right? A belief based on more evidence than the flying dude in the sky, right?

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yes,but its really stupid how some science and atheist claim that it's "an soon to be a fact",and what's even more sad is that they're using qoutes like "true until proven false'while the same excat thing can be said to god Lol


the point is that religious people admitted that their beliefs are assumptions (most of them) while atheist on the other hand try so hard to prove that big bang is an complete answer while its truly one of the most illogical theories to ever exist

 

[Joker]

yes,but its really stupid how some science and atheist claim that it's "an soon to be a fact",and what's even more sad is that they're using qoutes like "true until proven false'while the same excat thing can be said to god Lol


the point is that religious people admitted that their beliefs are assumptions (most of them) while atheist on the other hand try so hard to prove that big bang is an complete answer while its truly one of the most illogical theories to ever exist

You stopped being credible the moment I saw generalization.

 

[V h o]

You don't believe in deities you are an atheist. That simple. Most (that I've met) tend to not have faith in much of anything and don't do much good either so it's easy to sort them out. Especially when they start picking at the believers.

Yeah I always figured atheist as the "cool kids" who didn't want to be categorized with the other beliefs, so choose another belief system in not believing other beliefs. Lol sounds funny

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Who believed the Earth was flat? The Ancient Greeks knew it was round. Christopher Columbus certainly knew the Earth was round. He just didn't know it was so large. Geocentric views were a result of the Catholic Church since the Greeks generally believed in a heliocentric model. Geocentric goes along with the Bible and the Church pushed that theory. Anyone who spoke out against it was labeled a heretic. Like Copernicus. So really religion inhibited science for hundreds of years

Until Aristotle the belief that the earth was flat stayed believable, science had no proof until exploration was made. Sort of my whole point, science only divide from it being a "religion" is its provability.

 

[Multiply]

You have it wrong. They do not believe the electrons came out of nowhere, as it is understood the Universe is expanding. Meaning that our universe came from one singular point and expanded to what it is now. That is in layman's terms. Here's an overall summary of it.

According to the standard theory, our universe sprang into existence as "singularity" around 13.7 billion years ago. What is a "singularity" and where does it come from? Well, to be honest, we don't know for sure. Singularities are zones which defy our current understanding of physics. They are thought to exist at the core of "black holes." Black holes are areas of intense gravitational pressure. The pressure is thought to be so intense that finite matter is actually squished into infinite density (a mathematical concept which truly boggles the mind). These zones of infinite density are called "singularities." Our universe is thought to have begun as an infinitesimally small, infinitely hot, infinitely dense, something - a singularity. Where did it come from? We don't know. Why did it appear? We don't know. - See more at:

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[Venomous Cobra]

You stopped being credible the moment I saw generalization.

"Most of them" it implies the majority of atheist people i'v met so far ,and anyway my last point isn't counterble so there isn't anything that you could say right now , how some people use an poor assumption to satisfy their human needs ,it sad its truly is.............

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

The Big Bang was originally theorized by a priest trying to prove God's existence.

 

[Brünhild]

Well, we can't be sure of anything, we can just make assumptions. I personally don't believe in Bible, I think it is just a mythology to explain the world, such as the greeks, scandinavians and egyptians did, for example. I think the myths are more a metaphor to explain natural phenomena and stories that carry some moral value and ethics from an specific folk.

But I'm not an atheist. I don't believe our universe came out from nowhere. Maybe the Creator is the natural force that made that and keeps the natural cicle. Maybe God is the Nature itself, which created its own laws.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

You have it wrong. They do not believe the electrons came out of nowhere, as it is understood the Universe is expanding. Meaning that our universe came from one singular point and expanded to what it is now. That is in layman's terms. Here's an overall summary of it.



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Where does it explain how the electrons were created in that summry/?

 

[Multiply]

Where does it explain how the electrons were created in that summry/?

Do your own research man.

In the beginning, there was not yet any matter. However, there was a lot of energy in the form of light, which comes in discrete packets called photons. When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. (An antiparticle is the exact opposite of the corresponding particle--for example, a proton has charge +e, so an antiproton has charge -e.) This is easily observed today, as gamma rays have enough energy to create measurable electron-antielectron pairs (the antielectron is usually called a positron). It turns out that the photon is just one of a class of particles, called the bosons, that decay in this manner. Many of the bosons around just after the big bang were so energetic that they could decay into much more massive particles such as protons (remember, E=mc^2, so to make a particle with a large mass m, you need a boson with a high energy E). The mass in the universe came from such decays.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Do your own research man.

In the beginning,[COLOR="#B22222"[COLOR="#B22222"] there was not yet any matter[/COLOR]. However, there was a lot of energy in the form of light, which comes in discrete packets called photons. When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. (An antiparticle is the exact opposite of the corresponding particle--for example, a proton has charge +e, so an antiproton has charge -e.) This is easily observed today, as gamma rays have enough energy to create measurable electron-antielectron pairs (the antielectron is usually called a positron). It turns out that the photon is just one of a class of particles, called the bosons, that decay in this manner. Many of the bosons around just after the big bang were so energetic that they could decay into much more massive particles such as protons (remember, E=mc^2, so to make a particle with a large mass m, you need a boson with a high energy E). The mass in the universe came from such decays.


stopped reading there,energy alone cannot preform light

 

[Cunning Linguist]

In the beginning,[COLOR="#B22222"[COLOR="#B22222"] there was not yet any matter[/COLOR]. However, there was a lot of energy in the form of light, which comes in discrete packets called photons. When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. (An antiparticle is the exact opposite of the corresponding particle--for example, a proton has charge +e, so an antiproton has charge -e.) This is easily observed today, as gamma rays have enough energy to create measurable electron-antielectron pairs (the antielectron is usually called a positron). It turns out that the photon is just one of a class of particles, called the bosons, that decay in this manner. Many of the bosons around just after the big bang were so energetic that they could decay into much more massive particles such as protons (remember, E=mc^2, so to make a particle with a large mass m, you need a boson with a high energy E). The mass in the universe came from such decays.


stopped reading there,energy alone cannot preform light

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

Stopped reading there. Ideas alone cannot create the Earth

 

[Multiply]

In the beginning,[COLOR="#B22222" there was not yet any matter. However, there was a lot of energy in the form of light, which comes in discrete packets called photons. When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. (An antiparticle is the exact opposite of the corresponding particle--for example, a proton has charge +e, so an antiproton has charge -e.) This is easily observed today, as gamma rays have enough energy to create measurable electron-antielectron pairs (the antielectron is usually called a positron). It turns out that the photon is just one of a class of particles, called the bosons, that decay in this manner. Many of the bosons around just after the big bang were so energetic that they could decay into much more massive particles such as protons (remember, E=mc^2, so to make a particle with a large mass m, you need a boson with a high energy E). The mass in the universe came from such decays.


stopped reading there,energy alone cannot preform light

You are a genuine idiot and I can't change that. You have the comprehension level of an eleven year old.

 

[Aya San]

You changed my mind, I now believe everything started from a Play-Doh can

 

[Cunning Linguist]

You are a genuine idiot and I can't change that. You have the comprehension level of an eleven year old.

I'm curious how he came to that conclusion. Schools really have failed our youth

 

[V h o]

Surprised this thread stayed alive after it was reconstructed Lol

But question: To anyone who believes big bang theory is true, is it 100% provable/true? This is not, is it more believable because that is subjective.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

You not understanding something ≠ A magic trick

Just because you can't explain something does not make it a magic trick. Do some simple reasearch(A google search) and you may be able to wrap your mind around the origin of our known universe.

Well then,just because people can't explain about God,doesn't make him a magic trick.

I know all about the theory on how our universe was created. After all I'm highly interested in science.
It's not a fact these energy in the form of light is the first step in creating what we know now.
Something had to fuel that energy yet no one can fully explain it.