[Discussion] Starrk vs Ulquiorra

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How I see that:

- Starrk wasn't trashed, while it was disappointed that he couldn't force anyone in bankai, he was fighting two seniors and two Vizards. Vizards were at least low captain level fighters 100 years ago, so they had 100 years to get stronger in their shinigami forms and they got mask as their power boost. So Starrk fough with 4 very strong opponents.

- Barragan also wasn't trashed, Sui Feng and Oomeada together couldn't defeat him and even Hachigen strugled with him. His problem was that he was so arrogant, Hachigen used that and won. Barragan was defeated by his own powers in the end.

- Tier was disappointed, tho there is a thing that Kubo once said that he switched her and Zommari in the last minute. Zommari was supposed to be third and Tier sevent. It would make sense more, because Toshiro was able to fight equal with Luppi (6th) and than his powers jumped to the level that he was actually able to beat her. It would make more sense if Toshiro fought 7th and won, because he strugled with 6th in previous arc.



At least three times. :p
I meant that their deaths were really rushed. I mean the hype of the top 3 Espadas was real, but they only lasted several chapters (including their flashbacks).

Starrk had the potential to defeat all of his opponents although they were tough.
Barragan's death was so lame Kubo seemed like as if he ran out of ideas.
Tier furthermore proves my point by having Aizen slashing her because he got bored and they were disappointing.

They were wasted.
That's my opinion tho!
 
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Ah, this again.
First of all, can someone please show me where Ulq showed more feats than Starrk? I really want to see that. I am not going through this again, since I have already explained multiple times in other threads. Starrk was n1 for a reason. He was the strongest. HIchigo level was not that great. I'd say Love's and Rose's level combined with Hollow powers. Remember what Starrk did to them ? One wolf was enoguh. Imagine a bunch of them. Starrk wasn't even taking it seriously. That lazy bum. Lol. Make the calculations. :)
 

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Stark imo! Both are high caliber opponents but it seems that people are underestimating Stark, and he's the Primera! Idk why this is still a hot topic when both are dead tbh.
 
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What feats? Getting trashed by Ichigo?


He literally ragdolled ichigo through a huge building, out the other side and into another.

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an explosion the size of las noches, that he can fire several times.

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Starrk killed Hollows by doing nothing,blitzed Kenpachi and Ichigo,almost forced Shunsui to use Bankai and he easily defeated 2 Vizards.
while the hollow bits are true, i dont remember ichigo or kenpachi even being in the same room as starrk, and almost making someone need to go full power isnt much of a feat.


plus, ulquiorra looks much cooler than starrk.
 
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He literally ragdolled ichigo through a huge building, out the other side and into another.

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an explosion the size of las noches, that he can fire several times.

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while the hollow bits are true, i dont remember ichigo or kenpachi even being in the same room as starrk, and almost making someone need to go full power isnt much of a feat.


plus, ulquiorra looks much cooler than starrk.





Watch the buildings bellow them, he can blast that on comand and as for speed i think they're even so pretty much a game of cat and mouse and the los lobos would eventually ulqi he aint as OP as two captains as powerful as them
 

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seriously, this is the bleach discussion that will never, ever end.

ulquiorra is fast enough to dodge starrks 1000 ceros, and the wolfs arent particularly fast. plus he was strong enough to ragdoll ichigo through a massive building. frankly, i cant see how starrk was even made espada 1.
Nice fanfic, Starrk never showed the move and then I doubt Ulq is dodging it. Starrk wins I swear Ulq is like the Itachi of Bleach he's so overrated......But the difference is Itachi fans troll I swear Ulq's fan are serious.

Starrk wins med-high dif.
 

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Nice fanfic, Starrk never showed the move and then I doubt Ulq is dodging it. Starrk wins I swear Ulq is like the Itachi of Bleach he's so overrated......But the difference is Itachi fans troll I swear Ulq's fan are serious.

Starrk wins med-high dif.
ulquiorra was speedblitzing ichigo, who is very fast. he can dodge the ceros
 

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ulquiorra was speedblitzing ichigo, who is very fast. he can dodge the ceros
Starrk done same.

Not to meniton that,
- Starrk speedblitzed both Ichigo and Zaraki in second, took Orihime and gone.
- Starrk done that coming from the other courner of the Las Noches.
- Starrk was in base.
- Starrk likely done that with his raw speed, without sonido.
 

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Starrk done same.

Not to meniton that,
- Starrk speedblitzed both Ichigo and Zaraki in second, took Orihime and gone.
- Starrk done that coming from the other courner of the Las Noches.
- Starrk was in base.
- Starrk likely done that with his raw speed, without sonido.
No he speed blitz oriheme not ichigo an zaraki plus ichigo won't even fully heald yet an he did not use flash step.

Stark did that when no one was expecting him to even be around.

No he used sonido that's why he vanished like that..it's like when soul reapers use flash step tgey disappear
 

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No he speed blitz oriheme not ichigo an zaraki plus ichigo won't even fully heald yet an he did not use flash step.

Stark did that when no one was expecting him to even be around.

No he used sonido that's why he vanished like that..it's like when soul reapers use flash step tgey disappear
1. Starrk did speedblitz both of them. Problem is that Starrk was coming from other corner of the Las Noches it's not like he was around.

2. If that's true, about sonido, than it would make him better sonido user than Zommari. Zommari was nearly even with Byakuya in speed (sonido/shunpo), Ichigo is faster and Starrk was able to blitz Ichigo. That would make Starrk's sonido >>> Zomari's, but it was imlied that Zommari is best sonido user among espada.
 
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