[VS] SM Minato durability contest

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Mindless Jubito could

1- Easily break

2- Destroy the (that could tank Jubi's Bijudama

3- Easily break like paper

Mind Jubito could

1- Cut KCM Minato's arm

JJ Madara is said to be even stronger [ ]

SM Minato however took 2 heavy kicks from him [ ], yet came out essentially unscathed [ ]

Remember that SM is supposed to enhance all your physical characteristics to the point Naruto could survive this without a scratch [ ]

But with Minato's durability feat(especially when you know he was in a weaker paper-made like edo tensei body) put SM Naruto's feat to shit

So what do you think is the strongest attack SM Minato can withstand?

1- Rock Spikes [ ]
2- Muki tensei [ ]
3- Pain's stakes [ ]
4- Susanoo arrow [ ]
5- Nikudan Haki Sensha [ ]
6- Tsunade's punch [ ]
7- Legged Susanoo's punch [ ]
8- JJ Madara's kicks [ ] [ ]

Others?
 

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I don't believe it is a correct way to scale since Minato lost his arm to Obito in a completely different way to a normal attack; it was torn off.
OT: Obviously tanks spikes and Susano clone punch, and possibly Muki Tensei. The rest pierce him bar the obvious ones like Madara's kicks and Chouji's spike (unless it's in butterfly mode).
 

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I don't believe it is a correct way to scale since Minato lost his arm to Obito in a completely different way to a normal attack; it was torn off.
OT: Obviously tanks spikes and Susano clone punch, and possibly Muki Tensei. The rest pierce him bar the obvious ones like Madara's kicks and Chouji's spike (unless it's in butterfly mode).
Minato could follow his hand movement and according to him, he lost it to Obito's arm strength. The Gudodama was only attached a split of second later during the same attack
 

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Minato could follow his hand movement and according to him, he lost it to Obito's arm strength. The Gudodama was only attached a split of second later during the same attack

Yes, arm strength as in Obito's arm tearing off Minato's entire limb. He didn't chop it off, he literally tore it off. That's completely different to any normal punch/kick/chop.
 

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smh people try to give they favorite character any little feat since when is being undamaged by a kick a good durability feat just because i hate your logic is does not tank anything definitely not a susanoo arroow
 

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Except there is no evidence that JJ Madara's kick surpasses any of Obito's strength feats. He raped Myojinmon and the Four Red Yang Barrier with his chakra arms, and he used a combo of his physical strength and Shunshin to bust Susanoo. JJ Madara's kick isn't going to compare to that.

He tanks a punch from Legged Susanoo as long as it's one of Madara's clones and not the original. He tanks spikes, maybe Muki Tensei. Everything else pierces him.
 

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Horrible logic on OP's part. He tanks rock spikes, clone Susanoo punch, and basic taijutsu from madara. Maybe muki tensei.
 

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smh people try to give they favorite character any little feat since when is being undamaged by a kick a good durability feat just because i hate your logic is does not tank anything definitely not a susanoo arroow
Oh plz cut the crap. I just wanted to use my spare time on the naruto manga to see other people's opinions on the matter. I've long past the days where i used to overwank Minato everytime i can. I don't even see the point in doing this now when the manga is over and i almost lost interest in naruto debates

Except there is no evidence that JJ Madara's kick surpasses any of Obito's strength feats. He raped Myojinmon and the Four Red Yang Barrier with his chakra arms, and he used a combo of his physical strength and Shunshin to bust Susanoo. JJ Madara's kick isn't going to compare to that.

He tanks a punch from Legged Susanoo as long as it's one of Madara's clones and not the original. He tanks spikes, maybe Muki Tensei. Everything else pierces him.
Considering JJ Madara's durability feats are light years above JJ Obito's(tanking evening elephant punches like nothing as opposed to a senpou rasengan hurting JJ Obito) and that durability and strength are most of the time associable, there is no reason to believe he doesn't get a boost in strength as well. The chakra arms are just extension of his own physical strength as well, so the chakra arms feats can be attributed to his own physical strength. I also doubt he actually used shunshin against the ribcage when you know how fast his actual movement speed was(zig-zagging around like nothing in flying speed) when later on BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke were struggling to tag his mind V2 version. I actually think it's just his physical movement that was that fast

Horrible logic on OP's part. He tanks rock spikes, clone Susanoo punch, and basic taijutsu from madara. Maybe muki tensei.
What is horrible about the logic? Care to explain? And who cares if it was a clone Susanoo? The durability between the original Madara Susanoo and the clone Susanoo didn't seem to change at all(Tsunade partially broke original Madara's ribcage Susanoo when it could do nothing to the clone's one in a higher version albeit), no reason to change its strength changed
 
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People still think Muki Tensei = regular rocks/spikes Lol
 

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The wank is un-believable.

1-2 Are basically the same thing.

3- Already pierced Naruto in cannon they wouldn't have a hard time replicating this feat on Minato.

4- Susanoo arrows plows through him with no difficulty.

5- He tanks it.

The rest plows through him.
 

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Considering JJ Madara's durability feats are light years above JJ Obito's(tanking evening elephant punches like nothing as opposed to a senpou rasengan hurting JJ Obito) and that durability and strength are most of the time associable, there is no reason to believe he doesn't get a boost in strength as well. The chakra arms are just extension of his own physical strength as well, so the chakra arms feats can be attributed to his own physical strength. I also doubt he actually used shunshin against the ribcage when you know how fast his actual movement speed was(zig-zagging around like nothing in flying speed) when later on BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke were struggling to tag his mind V2 version. I actually think it's just his physical movement that was that fast

No one ever said he gets a boost in strength. There is just no evidence to say that his kicking strength>Obito's Shunshin+Physical Strength and his chakra arms. Also, no. Chakra Arms aren't an extension of physical strength. KCM Naruto accidentally crushes large rocks with his chakra arms. He isn't that strong physically. RSM Naruto briefly matched Kaguya's Vacuum Attack with his chakra arms. He is not that strong physically.

Yeah, that was when he was flying, granting him far greater mobility. Not when he was on the ground. Juubito is still one movement, and then you can see the movement lines around him. That was a burst of movement. Whether or not it was Shunshin or some other type of accelerated movement, I don't know, but I do know that it'd make his hit much harder than normal.

People still think Muki Tensei = regular rocks/spikes

Doton is refined by chakra. Muki Tensei isn't as chakra isn't a factor in it's use. Kabuto only controls it with his life energy.
 

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You got things messed up.

1). Obito used Ninjutsu to accomplish the listed in the op; Madara kicked Minato by ordinary Taijutsu.

2). Madara having more power than Obito as Jinchuuriki, in reference he possess more Chakra. Doesn't necessarily mean he has more physical strength as Jinchuuriki.
 

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Chakra rods, Rock Spikes, and Susanoo punch are tanked
muki tensei and human boulder is iffy
whilst the others are damaging minato quite bad
 

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Doton is refined by chakra. Muki Tensei isn't as chakra isn't a factor in it's use. Kabuto only controls it with his life energy.

Everything that uses chakra is refined. Muki Tensei is senjutsu chakra base. Adding life force for it to function makes it go beyond chakra manipulation.

In no way can you think controlling it still = regular spikes and rocks.
 

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Everything that uses chakra is refined. Muki Tensei is senjutsu chakra base. Adding life force for it to function makes it go beyond chakra manipulation.

In no way can you think controlling it still = regular spikes and rocks.

Uh, no. Muki Tensei is not controlled with Senjutsu Chakra. Kabuto said that life energy being used to control it makes it go beyond regular chakra manipulation.
 

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Don't understand your comparisons especially when there's literally no evidence that JJ Madara is stronger. Not to mention durability=/= Strength like you're saying. For example, Naruto could physically break this with his strength (Bottom Panel) but wasn't durable enough to take it

Kicks=/= Strikes as well. Not to mention the fact that JJ Madara also cut SM Minato's hand with his staff...I fail to see where you're getting at.
 
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