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Try better. TB are part of body powers .

@ bold, He got special chakra from his mother, but nobody taught him Uzumaki's hiden jutsu.
What does the technique have to do with anything? The body powers for Naruto are having a lot of chakra and a strong life force, nothing more.

When every Senju/Uzumaki is born with TB, then it's part of their power.
 

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What does the technique have to do with anything? The body powers for Naruto are having a lot of chakra and a strong life force, nothing more.

When every Senju/Uzumaki is born with TB, then it's part of their power.
So when every uchiha is born with rinnegan or ems, then its a part of their power too right?
 

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What does the technique have to do with anything?
You said that he isn't full blooded Uzumaki when he has all full blooded Uzumaki traits except red hair and hiden jutsu.
The body powers for Naruto are having a lot of chakra and a strong life force, nothing more.
When every Senju/Uzumaki is born with TB, then it's part of their power.
His powerful and special chakra allow him naturally become jinchuuriki and using Kurama power. He doesn't need sage gift to do that.

Who's talking about Uchiha's here?

Can every memebr of said clans magically awaken a Bijuu?
Uchiha needed both eyes and body power to awaken Rinnegan, Uzumaki needed only body power to become jinchuuriki.

Bijuu=body powers

Rinnegan=body and eyes power. Deal with it.
 
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You said that he isn't full blooded Uzumaki when he has all full blooded Uzumaki traits except red hair and hiden jutsu. His powerful and special chakra allow him naturally become jinchuuriki and using Kurama power. He doesn't need sage gift to do that.

Uchiha needed both eyes and body power to awaken Rinnegan, Uzumaki needed only body power to become jinchuuriki.
He's half Uzumaki because his dad isn't one.

It's not part of their power because they don't get it because of their genes. Their genes allow them to become one, but they don't give them a TB.
 

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Who's talking about Uchiha's here?

Can every memebr of said clans magically awaken a Bijuu?
Im just saying, if the power of body is not bijuu since they aren't born with it, that means the power of Sasuke's eyes shouldn't be ems or rinnegan since he wasn't born with that too.
 

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Im just saying, if the power of body is not bijuu since they aren't born with it, that means the power of Sasuke's eyes shouldn't be ems or rinnegan since he wasn't born with that too.
But it's thanks to genetics that they can get it. TB have nothing to do with genetics.

Rinnegan isn't just an Uchiha power, i'll admit to that.
 

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But it's thanks to genetics that they can get it. TB have nothing to do with genetics.

Rinnegan isn't just an Uchiha power, i'll admit to that.
But only some people are compatible with bijuu, thanks to Naruto being an uzumaki which was genetic from his mom, he was able to contain a bijuu. EMS may be genetic, but it isnt the user's original power, it is another persons eyes transplanted into themselves.
 

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He's half Uzumaki because his dad isn't one.
Genes not working like that. He has all full blooded Uzumaki traits as I already said.

It's not part of their power because they don't get it because of their genes. Their genes allow them to become one, but they don't give them a TB.
Still not changes fact that you needed strong body and special chakra to become jinchuuriki.
 

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Sasuke didn't even use Rinnegan techs and Naruto was going all out a hundred ten percent. Not to mention, the asspull instantaneous nature energy gathering of Kurama. And Sasuke running out of chakra that fast with all the Bijuus is just a Kishimoto nerf.

If it was a real fight, you'll be seeing Sasuke dish out a thousand meteorites, a hundred gravity techs, a handful of preta paths, and a couple of Chidoris more powerful than a TBB.
 

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But only some people are compatible with bijuu, thanks to Naruto being an uzumaki which was genetic from his mom, he was able to contain a bijuu. EMS may be genetic, but it isnt the user's original power, it is another persons eyes transplanted into themselves.
A lot of other people could have been Kurama's Jin. It's not a special trait of the Uzumaki clan, nor the Senju clan, therefore it isn't part of their body power. What you're saying is that Rinnegan is part of Uzumaki's body power because Nagato could have it.

Original power? What would be their original power? Sure not every Uchiha can get it, but it's still thanks to their genes that they can.
Genes not working like that. He has all full blooded Uzumaki traits as I already said.

Still not changes fact that you needed strong body and special chakra to become jinchuuriki.
Yes, their body allows them to become one, but that doesn't mean it's part of their power. Rinnegan isn't an Uzumaki power, yet Nagato could handle it.

He's not full blooded, otherwise he would have red hair.
 

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A lot of other people could have been Kurama's Jin. It's not a special trait of the Uzumaki clan, nor the Senju clan, therefore it isn't part of their body power. What you're saying is that Rinnegan is part of Uzumaki's body power because Nagato could have it.
Name one person who wasn't an Uzumaki or Senju who was the jin of Kurama, no, but neither can uchiha's since only indra or ashura can get it by getting the other's cells.

Original power? What would be their original power? Sure not every Uchiha can get it, but it's still thanks to their genes that they can.
Original power as in the power they unlock themselves without the need for another person and actually, and its still thanks to the senju genes or uzumaki genes that they can contain bijuus.
 

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Name one person who wasn't an Uzumaki or Senju who was the jin of Kurama, no, but neither can uchiha's since only indra or ashura can get it by getting the other's cells.



Original power as in the power they unlock themselves without the need for another person and actually, and its still thanks to the senju genes or uzumaki genes that they can contain bijuus.
I don't have to name one because it was already stated that the only reason they use Uzumaki's is because they live longer. Other people could also become one, but the Uzumaki were the smartest/safest choice.
What are you talking about? Nagato was given the Rinnegan, just like Kurama was given to Naruto, yet the Rinnegan cannot be considered part of the Uzumaki's power.

It's not a product of their genes because it's not specifically for them.
 

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I don't have to name one because it was already stated that the only reason they use Uzumaki's is because they live longer. Other people could also become one, but the Uzumaki were the smartest/safest choice.
What are you talking about? Nagato was given the Rinnegan, just like Kurama was given to Naruto, yet the Rinnegan cannot be considered part of the Uzumaki's power.
Only people with a strong life force like the Uzumaki or Senju could do it and i don't think we've seen anybody else in Konoha with a strong enough life force like the uzumaki or senju to take in a bijuu. I meant that the rinnegan is no clan's power, it can only be unlocked by ashura or indra or their successors.

It's not a product of their genes because it's not specifically for them.
Their genes make them compatible for bijuu, the bijuu may not be specifically for them but their genes allow them to be able to become a host of a bijuu. But either way, whether it was in their genes to be able to unlock something or not, it doesn't change the fact that EMS requires another person's power to get, it doesn't matter if that person is within the same clan, it still means taking another persons power. So therefore it is not their birth power or original power.
 

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Only people with a strong life force like the Uzumaki or Senju could do it and i don't think we've seen anybody else in Konoha with a strong enough life force like the uzumaki or senju to take in a bijuu. I meant that the rinnegan is no clan's power, it can only be unlocked by ashura or indra or their successors.



Their genes make them compatible for bijuu, the bijuu may not be specifically for them but their genes allow them to be able to become a host of a bijuu. But either way, whether it was in their genes to be able to unlock something or not, it doesn't change the fact that EMS requires another person's power to get, it doesn't matter if that person is within the same clan, it still means taking another persons power. So therefore it is not their birth power or original power.
Ok, so why is the Rinnegan different from a Bijuu? You're wrong about other people not being able to become on though, just look at Bee.

They don't take another person's power,only their eyes, it's like a ritual. EMS is specific to the Uchiha clan, no matter who els tries it, they aren't going to get the same results.
 

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Yes, their body allows them to become one, but that doesn't mean it's part of their power. Rinnegan isn't an Uzumaki power, yet Nagato could handle it.
Only Uzumaki, even not Senju have special chakra to become Kurama jinchuuriki.

He's not full blooded, otherwise he would have red hair.
What special was about Nagato with compare to Naruto ?
 

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Naruto started that fight without acess to the biju chakra (bar kurama) and only 3 of his 9 tsb's.

Sasuke started the fight with 9 bijuu (all usable) and no noticable loss from his kaguya/madara fight.

Sasuke still lost.

Lol.
first point, huge fail as he always had the bijju chakra in him . tsbs is meaningless, arrows removed them out temporarily, a stronger attack like a ps slash would destroy them.

secondly, he didnt start the fight with bijjus chakra, he fought naruto without them initially and then absorbed them in ps some moments. bold is some biased shit. no chakra loss?? he used 9 genjutus and CTs just before the fight. or you dont think those cts would take chakra? its not like he has a bijju in him that can replenish him with chakra. and i dont even know how you came to the conclusion that he didnt suffer any chakra loss when he himself had been fighting. that statement was baseless shit

only in hes overall goal, not in physical terms which ended in a clear tie.
 
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