Orochimaru vs Hebi Sasuke

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Recall the situation Oro was in. His body was dying, he still couldn't use his arms to weave hand signs or mold chakra (thanks to Hiruzen) and Sasuke chose that time to attack him.

Sasuke chose to fight Oro when he was at his weakest. If Oro was healthy, with his arms and had intent to kill he would've stomped Sasuke.

I know but my point was ot was never more than once like I bolded in that guy's post.

Also, Hebi Sasuke now has access to some of Oro's Jutsus so I don't see Oro stomping here.
 

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Only effective with a single head while the other 7 strikes. Plus the chopped head will end up, eventually regenerate or release white snake poison.
 

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Only effective with a single head while the other 7 strikes. Plus the chopped head will end up, eventually regenerate or release white snake poison.

- Cutting through the head shouldn't be an issue or even time consuming when Sasuke could slice through Gyuki's Tentacle with ease.

- Sasuke can also move and not stand in once position.

- Evidence for the bolds especially considering the fact that after Itachi cut through their heads, none of those happened and no one was affected by any Poison.

- Sasuke can simply take flight in his CM2 while he cuts through anyways
 

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Only effective with a single head while the other 7 strikes. Plus the chopped head will end up, eventually regenerate or release white snake poison.
Tell me again why sasuke cant blitz all those heads? also when could they regenerate because they sho`ll didn't regenerate during the itach fight that or genjutsu screws them over
 

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Only effective with a single head while the other 7 strikes. Plus the chopped head will end up, eventually regenerate or release white snake poison.

Strong fan-fic.
 

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Sasuke should win. I can't see how Oro even does hydra, when genjutsu should prevent this fight from even escalating Lol
 

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Tell me again why sasuke cant blitz all those heads? also when could they regenerate because they sho`ll didn't regenerate during the itach fight that or genjutsu screws them over
Strong fan-fic.
Sasuke should win. I can't see how Oro even does hydra, when genjutsu should prevent this fight from even escalating Lol

1. Orochimaru developed resistance to Sharingan Genjutsu.
2. Lel at Sasuke blitzing all heads. Hell, at Sasuke blitzing Orochimaru at all...
3. 8Branches is regeneration itself. It's created using White Snake's rejuvenating powers. Orochimaru didn't regenerate the heads because he didn't feel like doing so. He clearly stated such cuts were nothing and why would he renegerate the heads if he decided to fight Itachi with Kusanagi?
 

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3. 8Branches is regeneration itself. It's created using White Snake's rejuvenating powers.Orochimaru didn't regenerate the heads because he didn't feel like doing so. He clearly stated such cuts were nothing and why would he renegerate the heads if he decided to fight Itachi with Kusanagi?

Manga doesn't support you hence you're wrong. Denying to support you Favorite is all you're doing which isn't surprising.

Itachi battled it and sliced their heads off...When the was there regeneration? Nice assumption with the bold. Itachi even had intel on the technique and still went ahead to slice their heads rather than using other means. Not to mention, Orochimaru stating those cuts being nothing to him =/= The Snakes being able to regenerate their heads. When you have evidence that he didn't want them to regenerate, then we can talk.

Lastly, if he wanted to battle him with Kusanagi all along, Why then did he resort to 8 Branches? Why was it after his Snakes were brutally killed. Fact is, Regeneration would have occurred right there if it could do so to the heads of the snakes but it didn't happen so it's never happening since Manga doesn't support that or hint at it being able to happen. Why did Orochimaru come out when only one head was left? Why did he not regenerate their heads to help with his Battle when he brought it out in the first place? Doesn't help your assumptions.
 
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No slap yourself Sasuke is leagues above him in taijutsu and kenjutsu i dont see how orochimaru wins please explained to me why genjutsu cant 1 shot him

Calm down.
Taijutsu and Kenjutsu are meaningless against an opponent like Orochimaru. So I don't know why you even brought that up.
I don't need to explain why Genjutsu doesn't 1 shot him, you just need to read the manga.

Sasuke's Genjutsu was canonically recognized and broken in an instant by Orochimaru.
Also, Orochimaru has what it takes to blitz Sasuke as shown here


Now before you get all pissy, I am not saying Orochimaru would blitz him in a fight. I am saying he has what it takes and that Orochimaru is no slouch when it comes to speed either.
By feats, Sasuke should be able to win extreme dif, by hype it'd go to Orochimaru.
 

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Hydra is much bigger than Itachi's susano. It towers over it with all the heads. DB3 states Hydra is bigger than Manda, and this is true however each of the snake heads of Hydra are much smaller than Manda. Hydra as a whole is bigger than Manda.
 

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How is Sasuke winning this? Orochimaru wins mid difficulty.

He's shown that cutting him apart doesn't stop him from reattaching his body parts. Surprise attacks from underground coupled with kage bunshin feints can catch Sasuke off guard especially when Orochimaru has the summon advantage. Oro's thousand snakes are going to be hard for Sasuke to take out with his techniques barring Kirin. Same goes for Oro's hydra.

Pretty sure Oro has a lot more chakra than Hebi Sasuke's based on Sasuke getting drained after using oral rebirth but a sick Oro using it multiple times against KN4 Naruto.
 

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- Cutting through the head shouldn't be an issue or even time consuming when Sasuke could slice through Gyuki's Tentacle with ease.

Sasuke has never shown to cut multiple times with Chidori-Extend, all his fights shows this. So base on that with his strike speed this process isn't enough to do with ease and gets striked by Orochimaru and other snake heads

- Sasuke can also move and not stand in once position.

He could which still gets him no where, especially when Orochimaru also has long range attacks to also pressure him. So any distance wouldnt be a problem here for battle.

- Evidence for the bolds especially considering the fact that after Itachi cut through their heads, none of those happened and no one was affected by any Poison.

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DB stated this is Orochimaru final White Snake form. So not only is this another form of White Snake, which carries all of its priorities like his first form, it also carries Orochimaru's ability as its Orochimaru himself. Think of it as Oro's "BM".

Itachi not being effected can be interpret that being sealed result to stopping the process. Otherwise Hydra heads did not need their own panel time of going "poof".


- Sasuke can simply take flight in his CM2 while he cuts through anyways

Right, because Hydra can't cover more then 5 meters of range? Even so Orochimaru can nullify any Chidori with his wind style.

Sasuke isn't taking this.

Tell me again why sasuke cant blitz all those heads? also when could they regenerate because they sho`ll didn't regenerate during the itach fight that or genjutsu screws them over


Lol blitz. When are people going to stop with these arguments there is only very few people who can blitz with a effective ninjutsu with them. In no way is Sasuke blitzing while forming ninjutsu effective enough to take Oro down. Orochimaru's form is address above and Genjutsu is useless here. Last time I check there is 8 pairs of eyes in Hydra form and brains. So solo glance isn't happening with this form of Sasuke. Not to mention its arguable that Oro can beat 3T Genjutsu.


Strong fan-fic.

You sure?
 

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By feats, Sasuke should be able to win extreme dif

This is all i need to hear. Also why do people keep posting that scan it didnt imply he broke genjutsu periode also you cannot just develop resistance to genjutsu Deidara tried and failed same goes for oro.

He's shown that cutting him apart doesn't stop him from reattaching his body parts. Surprise attacks from underground coupled with kage bunshin feints can catch Sasuke off guard especially when Orochimaru has the summon advantage.

Underground attacks are useless sharingan see's them via chakra you should know this by now. Orochimaru is not surviving getting shredded by ration varients or even a simple genjutsu would K.O him


Oro's thousand snakes are going to be hard for Sasuke to take out with his techniques barring Kirin. Same goes for Oro's hydra.

No they wont katon turns them to snake crust Manda has shown he can be burnt same goes for much smaller snakes they're numbers mean nothing. Hydra is wrecked by chidori spear no question about it furthermore its to slow to do anything to sasuke lets say it does eat him he simple cuts its throat open and jumps snakes summonings are a non factor.

Pretty sure Oro has a lot more chakra than Hebi Sasuke's based on Sasuke getting drained after using oral rebirth but a sick Oro using it multiple times against KN4 Naruto.

being sick does not means your chakra is low know the difference Sasuke had his curse mark witch drains him insanely fast since he never ever used curse mark for no larger than one attack and outlasting is not happening here anyways.
 

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Sasuke has never shown to cut multiple times with Chidori-Extend, all his fights shows this. So base on that with his strike speed this process isn't enough to do with ease and gets striked by Orochimaru and other snake heads


Him not showing it doesn't mean he can't do it. He held Chidori spear for this long against Orochimaru ----> Look through the scans and tell me how long that took. Somehow, it may be a problem to just slice through now? Even with Black Chidori?

He could which still gets him no where, especially when Orochimaru also has long range attacks to also pressure him. So any distance wouldnt be a problem here for battle.

Orochimaru is going to be inside the Snake's mouth you know? Since he transforms into it like that DB explains right there. What long range attacks are you talking about? None of Orochimaru's Distance attacks can do a thing to CM2 who took damage from C2 several times.

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DB stated this is Orochimaru final White Snake form. So not only is this another form of White Snake, which carries all of its priorities like his first form, it also carries Orochimaru's ability as its Orochimaru himself. Think of it as Oro's "BM".

Expected this

- First of all, he uses the Last of his strength..Pretty sure that means we won't be seeing any distance attack if I interpreted that correctly as it goes ahead to say his most powerful Jutsu .

- He uses the regenerative power of the white snake as a vehicle to transform..Where exactly does it say the technique itself can regenerate? I mean even its head that was cut off can't regenerate for sure as Manga shows.

- It never did so in the Itachi fight as Orochimaru even became cautious with the snake...Shown with how he didn't have the last head attack but rather came out to to fight Itachi with his Kusangi. Orochimaru went ahead to attack with the other heads which never regenerated as well as the fact that they had more than enough time to regenerate. We're definitely not seeing that.


Itachi not being effected can be interpret that being sealed result to stopping the process. Otherwise Hydra heads did not need their own panel time of going "poof".

Sorry but this is nothing more than an assumption of yours..How long did it take for Orcohimaru's poison to come out against Sasuke? ? Itachi kept cutting heads which means there was still enough time from the previous heads when Orochimaru came out. Yet we didn't see any sign of such. Not happening

Not to mention even though they were sealed, I'm sure there was still blood leftover on the ground and all which didn't even show any sign of Poison. Regardless, none was shown.


Right, because Hydra can't cover more then 5 meters of range? Even so Orochimaru can nullify any Chidori with his wind style.

Only if we'll be seeing such..Let's also talk about his ability to react with an attack before the technique is quickly used to cut the heads off

How is Sasuke winning this? Orochimaru wins mid difficulty.

He's shown that cutting him apart doesn't stop him from reattaching his body parts. Surprise attacks from underground coupled with kage bunshin feints can catch Sasuke off guard especially when Orochimaru has the summon advantage. Oro's thousand snakes are going to be hard for Sasuke to take out with his techniques barring Kirin. Same goes for Oro's hydra.

Pretty sure Oro has a lot more chakra than Hebi Sasuke's based on Sasuke getting drained after using oral rebirth but a sick Oro using it multiple times against KN4 Naruto.

Good points tbh..The hundred snakes can be countered via fire style as well as streaming Chidori through the ground.
 

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This is all i need to hear. Also why do people keep posting that scan it didnt imply he broke genjutsu periode also you cannot just develop resistance to genjutsu Deidara tried and failed same goes for oro.



Underground attacks are useless sharingan see's them via chakra you should know this by now. Orochimaru is not surviving getting shredded by ration varients or even a simple genjutsu would K.O him




No they wont katon turns them to snake crust Manda has shown he can be burnt same goes for much smaller snakes they're numbers mean nothing. Hydra is wrecked by chidori spear no question about it furthermore its to slow to do anything to sasuke lets say it does eat him he simple cuts its throat open and jumps snakes summonings are a non factor.



being sick does not means your chakra is low know the difference Sasuke had his curse mark witch drains him insanely fast since he never ever used curse mark for no larger than one attack and outlasting is not happening here anyways.

This is the most retarded post I've read on this base so far.

Orochimaru canonically resisted Sharingan Genjutsu - yet you're trying to say he didn't.
Orochimaru took Totsuka to his chest, had his Hydra's heads cut off and laughed at such wounds - you're saying Sasuke wins because he can use Chidori Spear.
You say sickness doesn't affect one's chakra - yet we've seen how Orochimaru was unable to fight when his sickness started getting worse during his fight with KN4.
 

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Him not showing it doesn't mean he can't do it. He held Chidori spear for this long against Orochimaru ----> Look through the scans and tell me how long that took. Somehow, it may be a problem to just slice through now? Even with Black Chidori?

Actually him not showing it means he can't do it. Never said he can't hold Chidori but its clear that his strike speed isn't the same when waving that around.



Orochimaru is going to be inside the Snake's mouth you know? Since he transforms into it like that DB explains right there. What long range attacks are you talking about? None of Orochimaru's Distance attacks can do a thing to CM2 who took damage from C2 several times.

I said pressure not damage. Wind style takes care of your notion that Sasuke keeps his distance with Chidori, was my point. Katon isn't doing crap much like how it did crap to Manda 1. Well if a Katon+Oil base force Manda 1 to shed/escape then a normal Katon isnt going to any effective to a superior Manda.


Expected this

- First of all, he uses the Last of his strength..Pretty sure that means we won't be seeing any distance attack if I interpreted that correctly as it goes ahead to say his most powerful Jutsu .

- He uses the regenerative power of the white snake as a vehicle to transform..Where exactly does it say the technique itself can regenerate? I mean even its head that was cut off can't regenerate for sure as Manga shows.

- It never did so in the Itachi fight as Orochimaru even became cautious with the snake...Shown with how he didn't have the last head attack but rather came out to to fight Itachi with his Kusangi. Orochimaru went ahead to attack with the other heads which never regenerated as well as the fact that they had more than enough time to regenerate. We're definitely not seeing that.

- The context was talking about taking advantage of Sasuke's condition.

- Your not making any sense. Your basically stating he using regenerative power but cant regenerate. Manga does show that Oro can regenerate you post it: [ > ]. And as Orochi said non of Sasuke arsenal/jutsu is working against him like in canon.

- Actually they didnt have time to regenerate as much time when Oro 1st form, against Sasuke, had.

Everything supports that White Snake = White Snake powers


Sorry but this is nothing more than an assumption of yours..How long did it take for Orcohimaru's poison to come out against Sasuke? ? Itachi kept cutting heads which means there was still enough time from the previous heads when Orochimaru came out. Yet we didn't see any sign of such. Not happening

My interpretation sounds more actuate here. Oro poison took since chapter 344 to evaporate. Much more panels then Itachi's fight.

Not to mention even though they were sealed, I'm sure there was still blood leftover on the ground and all which didn't even show any sign of Poison. Regardless, none was shown.

Can you prove that there was still blood leftover? If it wasnt shown then it proves my point.


Only if we'll be seeing such..Let's also talk about his ability to react with an attack before the technique is quickly used to cut the heads off

Lets do it. Where has Sasuke ever blitz with ninjutsu in his hand, bar normal Chidori? And the fact that Sasuke openly admitted he wasn't strong enough to take out Orochimaru. So why do you think blitzing would work when Sasuke think it wouldn't lead to his victory?

And are we even factoring Zetsus body? Because then this match up would be massive rampage.
 
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