[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 414 Discussion and 415 Predictions

[A v i]

One of the context giving one of the different meaning.We really can't guess who is E N D at this point.Hiro left us(or only me as usual) clueless.

I know that we can't guess who he really is, But the thing is that everything we have learned about END leads us to believe that END is indeed -Ve self of Natsu.

 

[Caliburn]

I know that we can't guess who he really is, But the thing is that everything we have learned about END leads us to believe that END is indeed -Ve self of Natsu.

Actually that isn't the case, people simply want to interpret it that way, but objectively seen there is pathetically little that points towards Natsu or anyone or anything else being END.

The only thing that can be said for sure is that there's a connection between Zeref, END and Natsu. END is supposed to be Zeref's strongest demon he created, Zeref somehow knows Natsu and someone looking like Natsu is depicted fighting Acnologia on an ancient tapestry, but seriously the nature of that relationship can be explained in a multitude of ways. Many people just automatically went for that END has to be some kind of form of Natsu. However the context people have brought up in this thread is in fact extremely vague, superficial and ambiguous to say the least and as a result you can create a large number of equally possible hypotheses.

That END is Natsu's biological mother and pre-dragon Acnologia is his biological father has currently as much going for it as END being Natsu's evil twin just because we don't have solid referencing points and the plot seems to be wriggling and twisting like there's no tomorrow. There is so little known about the history of all the actors, let alone how all these actors interact and correspond with each other.

For example first the impression is given that END is leading them all, then apparently he is still trapped in a book. Then the impression is given that they are somehow working for Zeref, but then Mard Geer seems to be doing the opposite and Zeref himself is just watching it all without any clear indication what he know exactly wants.

 

[The Sach]

Another possible scenario,Natsu is Acnologia's son >_> or his parents were killed in the conflict who were related to Zeref that happened 400 years ago after which Igneel took Natsu and taught him Dragon Slaying magic ?!

@bold, this is impossible, because if he is then why Acnologia never had same type of feeling towards Natsu, which Zeref had?
Also it was never implied that Natsu has relation with it, as that thing has never shown absolutely any emotion when Natsu is around, unlike Zeref who had tears in his eyes when he first met Natsu. So no, not even a distant possibility.

If Natsu is shown to be a demon then Zeref is All father for him.All other dragon slayers including Wendy,Gajeel don't have their parents named.Those three think that their dragons are their parents.This case is different to sting and Rogue I guess.Natsu's and Gajeel's age didn't showed in the manga till now however Wendy has shown to be 12 years age who is also a dragon slayer.Natsu and Gajeel seems to be different.
well this is something that only Zeref know.There are some evidences to show that Natsu is END and at the same time there are also some statements to post otherwise.As of current I think the Who is E N D can anyway like hiro wants it.

E.N.D can also be an evil counterpart of Natsu and hence there is also a possibility that Natsu isn't demon at all.

From what it is shown in the FT Zer0 manga assuming that when Zeref and Mavis cross paths in their way to magnolia and both didn't even interacted or didn't given any signs of knowing each other,I would like to think that Mavis and Zeref were from two different timelines.Unless there is a change in timeline I don't see both of them having a interaction for the plot.From what it is shown in the manga it is true that they both know each other from a pretty well time.

Probably they came across each other later. FT zero has just started and yes, Mavis and Zeref are from different timelines. Since Zeref was in existence 400 years ago and Mavis was child in X679. From manga one thing is clear, they must have had some relation, maybe it will be revealed in later part of FT Zero or FT itself.

Mavis is crystallized(Lumen Histoire).Latest manga events showed that LH is more of darkness in nature but it carries some Light nature too.That is what I think of LH.Also it's been a while since we last saw Mavis spirit in the manga.

It is both, I believe. Though it is something interesting to look forward to.

Yeah.Igneel waited in Natsu's body for the time to kill Acnologia with his own hands.Also Igneel said in the latest chapter that the terrible legacy he left off is Acnologia.Meaning of which....As we already know that Dragon's civil war occurred 400 years ago.During that time Dragons were divided into two groups.The group which hoped for the co-existence of humans and dragons taught humans the dragon slaying magic believing that they will help them in civil war.Acnologia which is also a human at that time learned Dragon slaying magic but he killed all the dragons an became a dragon king except Igneel,Grandine,Mettalicana,Skiadrum,Weissolgia.From what Igneel said in latest chapter I think that Igneel and Co. were in the Group that hoped for co-existence meaning of which they all know how Acnologia arised.So they think they are the reason of current Acnologia.Yes it is certain that someone would have influence Acnologia to rebel against their own group.Yep.It is Zeref!.

Zeref and Acnologia do have some relation, but I don't think it was completely Zeref who was responsible for Acnologia to rebel against his own group, in fact Zeref probably helped him

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in doing so. It was Acnologia's greed actually, due to which things became like this.

Mostly they all team up and kill already worn out Acnologia which is a possible scenario or
they just go back to their timeline.May be with the spell they came to this current timeline,there is also a timer for it.Or more preferably they all go back to Dragon slayer bodies.Another case,Acnologia turns into human and slay all the dragons.

I think bold is more possible, but I will be more than happy if they fight.

First the question arises is can Grandine heal ?Yes I think assuming she is the one who taught Wendy.Will Igneel be resurrected or not is all upto Hiro I think.If hiro decided to show how badass Grandine healing powers are by healing Igneel then I will be happy.^_^.But I doubt that given the scenario of how damaged Igneel's body is now!.

I think she can, since Wendy has healing abilities and she must have learnt them from Grandine. On rest, only time will tell.

I am thinking the same.I think it was Layla who sealed E N D and also the one who sent Dragons to future timeline along with Natsu and Gajeel only I assume.If I remember Capricon said that "Layla sama became too weak one day which forced her to stop being a celestial wizard."After that Layla passed away on the same day I guess.Yes,beautiful,she would have used time travel magic which is the reason why.......!!

I don't think Layla sealed E.N.D, but I think used her keys to open Eclipse or something or probably separated Evil and Good Natsu and sent good one to future?

 

[Memento Mori]

@bold, this is impossible, because if he is then why Acnologia never had same type of feeling towards Natsu, which Zeref had?
Also it was never implied that Natsu has relation with it, as that thing has never shown absolutely any emotion when Natsu is around, unlike Zeref who had tears in his eyes when he first met Natsu. So no, not even a distant possibility.

Not cried or didn't showed feelings doesn't mean they don't have any relations.It is not like you have no feelings for me,so you are not my father.....May be Acnologia is Neutral or don't have any feelings towards Natsu and that is why he never showed unlike Zeref.Guess who knows?.All we know is very little about Acnologia at this point of time.So,taking some considerations into account isn't bad at all.I just posted what will be the possible scenario's may happen if one scenario is not then may be other or so on....Also if Natsu is happened to be son of Acnologia then taking into the consideration of how Igneel took kid Natsu and taught him Dragon slaying magic,most likely after the end of Civil war implies that Natsu is kid at that time.Acnologia is shown to be a brutal till now in the series who cares nothing about humans.Even at the Sirius Island it didn't cared about none of the FT crew.All it seek was complete destruction which is evident as of in current manga.We know that Acnologia is human....If natsu is the son of Acnologia then natsu is human too.As we know that Acnologia don't cares about humankind,it is safe to assume that he don't care about natsu either who is a human too that is on the basis of if Natsu is Acnologia's son.It is not like we didn't saw any father who don't care/likes his son ?So why not ?.Another thing you could have brought up is the ancient tapestry in which it is depicted that Natsu like mage with scarf and Acnologia is fighting.As I just said now about that tapestry then it shows that may be Natsu is destined to fight Acnologia.First of one can think why would Father and son fight against each other?.Which can make one lean towards they may not be Father or son and at the same time it can be introduced as such like that for a plot twist from hiro's perspective.Like a Father and Son fight or Just a normal fight to defeat Acnologia,the king is what all upto hiro.How the latest events have been folded,I think Group of Dragons VS Acnologia may happen or they themselves get slaughtered too.-_-

E.N.D can also be an evil counterpart of Natsu and hence there is also a possibility that Natsu isn't demon at all.

What exactly is an evil counterpart ?Are they shared same body with two types of magic or they having two different bodies one with curse and other with magic ?Like exactly both sides of the coin.Then it still needs to clarify who are those two are...!..........This is also another possible scenario.May be a wizard who sealed E N D only sealed Natsu's vile magic(Curse Flames) back into the book and left Natsu open for new origin.More likely after which Igneel took Natsu and taught him Fire Dragon Slayer magic an counterpart to the curse magic if you ask me.But i doubt about this case and a the same time there are also contexts from chapter 372 which Zeref talked.if we interpret them in oneway or other,different assumptions can be made.

May be if he is shown to be son of Acnologia then the chances of him being Demon are zero or Like by what you are going to say with that evil counterpart thing.

Probably they came across each other later. FT zero has just started and yes, Mavis and Zeref are from different timelines. Since Zeref was in existence 400 years ago and Mavis was child in X679. From manga one thing is clear, they must have had some relation, maybe it will be revealed in later part of FT Zero or FT itself.

Yea I am leaning more towards that but we can't really strike off the timeline possibilities since it is possible in FT Manga.But the question will be how did there is an intervention in the time ?I don't see any other magic except Celestial magic that can do the time travel.So I am leaning towards Layla here but now that I think this don't make any sense either.How come Layla do that ?She wasn't even born at that time unless some time shift or like ......_-_

I don't think Hiro will reveal us about Zeref and Mavis relation in FT Zero manga when it is shown that they don't even know each other in her timeline.I hope Hiro will give us a history arc or some sort of to show what exactly happened 400 years ago.

It is both, I believe. Though it is something interesting to look forward to.

Yeah.My assumption of what LH would have done if it was released is
>>>May be it will put off all the Faces and helps the wizards --> Light Nature
>>>And at the same time it will reveal some dark secrets about Fairy Tail to their Guild members which will give them negative thoughts--->Dark Nature>>>ascertaining this condition which makarov asked Mest to delete the memories from all of them.

Zeref and Acnologia do have some relation, but I don't think it was completely Zeref who was responsible for Acnologia to rebel against his own group, in fact Zeref probably helped him

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in doing so. It was Acnologia's greed actually, due to which things became like this.

What kinda of relation do you think they would have ?.I think both are not related in anyway but Zeref finds out the dark feelings or dark nature/blood thirsty nature of Acnologia and manipulated him or sort of like that.Nonetheless,I hope atleast someone will say what happened exactly 400 years ago.Nice scan you posted.Now I will go back 400 years ago.........We know that Igneel and E N D Fought 400 years ago the same timeline where Dragon Civil war existed.I am wondering what are Zeref and demons doing at that time during that Civil war ?.(o)_(o)

I think bold is more possible, but I will be more than happy if they fight.

I will be more than happy if other dragons got killed too.It is unfair to only send Igneel to death .

I think she can, since Wendy has healing abilities and she must have learnt them from Grandine. On rest, only time will tell.

I don't think Layla sealed E.N.D, but I think used her keys to open Eclipse or something or probably separated Evil and Good Natsu and sent good one to future?

Possible.This relates to what you said about the counterpart thing.
@ the bold,Am I missing a point or does Layla have access to all the keys at that moment.If I remember she has only 3/4 keys I think.May be that CSK gave them to her.

 

[A v i]

Actually that isn't the case, people simply want to interpret it that way, but objectively seen there is pathetically little that points towards Natsu or anyone or anything else being END.

The only thing that can be said for sure is that there's a connection between Zeref, END and Natsu. END is supposed to be Zeref's strongest demon he created, Zeref somehow knows Natsu and someone looking like Natsu is depicted fighting Acnologia on an ancient tapestry, but seriously the nature of that relationship can be explained in a multitude of ways. Many people just automatically went for that END has to be some kind of form of Natsu. However the context people have brought up in this thread is in fact extremely vague, superficial and ambiguous to say the least and as a result you can create a large number of equally possible hypotheses.

It is not like people are interpreting it in that way just because they wanted to, if you joint every hint from the writer regarding END's relation with Natsu or his identity then the best possible out come you can come up with will be END is Natsu's counterpart. There is no theory that can link all those hints as good as this one. So the chances of this theory being true are more when compared to any other theory on END's identity.


END is Zeref's final masterpiece to fulfil his wish i.e. putting an end to his life and we have a statement from Zeref himself which hints that only Natsu can kill Zeref. Don't you think those points pretty much hints that Natsu and END are two faces of same coin? 2*2= y & 2*2 = x but still x=/=y. :| Thinking END is a different entity from Natsu is no different from saying x=/=y.

Zeref himself thinks that only Natsu can stop him and yet he's hoping END or Natsu to meet him so that he can finally settle scores. Zeref is the one that created END so he knew that END is capable of killing him and if END is a different entity from Natsu then Zeref's statement about Natsu must be wrong but Zeref knows about both Natsu as well as END so he can't be wrong.

That END is Natsu's biological mother and pre-dragon Acnologia is his biological father has currently as much going for it as END being Natsu's evil twin just because we don't have solid referencing points and the plot seems to be wriggling and twisting like there's no tomorrow. There is so little known about the history of all the actors, let alone how all these actors interact and correspond with each other.

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' ,If END Is a male then how can they possibly think that END is Natsu's mother?:Omg: That theory clearly has a hole in it. As I have mentioned above there isn't a theory that can joint all the hints as good as this one.

I didn't said that Natsu is definitely END or anything like that. I admit that there are other possibilities but the thing is that Natsu being the counterpart of END tops every other possible theory regarding END's true identity.

For example first the impression is given that END is leading them all, then apparently he is still trapped in a book. Then the impression is given that they are somehow working for Zeref, but then Mard Geer seems to be doing the opposite and Zeref himself is just watching it all without any clear indication what he know exactly wants.

They are obviously working for Zeref. As far as I remember Zeref created them hoping that they could kill him and they are doing their best to fulfil his wish. Mard Geers methods might be different but his ultimate goal is no different from what Zeref wished for.

Another possible scenario,Natsu is Acnologia's son >_> or his parents were killed in the conflict who were related to Zeref that happened 400 years ago after which Igneel took Natsu and taught him Dragon Slaying magic ?!

Those theories has no back up from manga no matter how badly you think about it.There are no hints that suggests that Acnologia has a wife/ son.There are no hints suggesting that Acnologia and Natsu have met before. In fact Acnologia never displayed any signs of having some kind of relation with Natsu during their encounters until now.

Only that thing that hints that Natsu has some kind of relation with Acnologia is the image that depicts a fire type mage fighting Acnologia. The dude in that image was a fire mage so it could be END for all we know and it would explain why Acnologia wanted to destroy END before he gets revived.

Assuming that the mage in that image is indeed Natsu only theories you can come up with are 1) Natsu and Acnologia will face each other in future. 2) They fought with each other in past. The later is obviously wrong as Acnologia never recognized Nasu so it isn't really hard to understand that they have never met before. So that leaves Natsu facing him in future in our hands and the recent chapter pretty much conforms that Natsu VS Acnologia in future is inevitable.

If Natsu is shown to be a demon then Zeref is All father for him.All other dragon slayers including Wendy,Gajeel don't have their parents named.Those three think that their dragons are their parents.This case is different to sting and Rogue I guess.Natsu's and Gajeel's age didn't showed in the manga till now however Wendy has shown to be 12 years age who is also a dragon slayer.Natsu and Gajeel seems to be different.

@ Bold: Not really , Zeref created loads of demons but END is some how different from other demons. His strength vastly out classes other demons and he's the final masterpiece of Zeref. I have a feeling that unlike other demons END was created using a human(Natsu) and Zeref's magic. We all know that turning humans into demons is totally possible.

Later Igneel fought END and seperated Natsu from END and ultimately sealed END inside of book.

Not cried or didn't showed feelings doesn't mean they don't have any relations.It is not like you have no feelings for me,so you are not my father.....May be Acnologia is Neutral or don't have any feelings towards Natsu and that is why he never showed unlike Zeref.Guess who knows?.All we know is very little about Acnologia at this point of time.So,taking some considerations into account isn't bad at all.I just posted what will be the possible scenario's may happen if one scenario is not then may be other or so on....Also if Natsu is happened to be son of Acnologia then taking into the consideration of how Igneel took kid Natsu and taught him Dragon slaying magic,most likely after the end of Civil war implies that Natsu is kid at that time.Acnologia is shown to be a brutal till now in the series who cares nothing about humans.Even at the Sirius Island it didn't cared about none of the FT crew.All it seek was complete destruction which is evident as of in current manga.We know that Acnologia is human....If natsu is the son of Acnologia then natsu is human too.As we know that Acnologia don't cares about humankind,it is safe to assume that he don't care about natsu either who is a human too that is on the basis of if Natsu is Acnologia's son.It is not like we didn't saw any father who don't care/likes his son ?So why not ?.Another thing you could have brought up is the ancient tapestry in which it is depicted that Natsu like mage with scarf and Acnologia is fighting.As I just said now about that tapestry then it shows that may be Natsu is destined to fight Acnologia.First of one can think why would Father and son fight against each other?.Which can make one lean towards they may not be Father or son and at the same time it can be introduced as such like that for a plot twist from hiro's perspective.Like a Father and Son fight or Just a normal fight to defeat Acnologia,the king is what all upto hiro.How the latest events have been folded,I think Group of Dragons VS Acnologia may happen or they themselves get slaughtered too.-_-

There was no need for his feelings to be emotional. We all know that there are fathers that doesn't care about their sons and has no emotional feelings but I have never seen a father that acts as if he doesn't even know about his own son during their reunion after a long ass time. It doesn't matter if he doesn't care about his son. The thing is that he should at least recognize his son in order for us to think that they have some kind of relation with each other.

Btw, What exactly drove you to believe that Natsu is biological son of Acnologia?

What exactly is an evil counterpart ?Are they shared same body with two types of magic or they having two different bodies one with curse and other with magic ?Like exactly both sides of the coin.Then it still needs to clarify who are those two are...!..........This is also another possible scenario.May be a wizard who sealed E N D only sealed Natsu's vile magic(Curse Flames) back into the book and left Natsu open for new origin.More likely after which Igneel took Natsu and taught him Fire Dragon Slayer magic an counterpart to the curse magic if you ask me.But i doubt about this case and a the same time there are also contexts from chapter 372 which Zeref talked.if we interpret them in oneway or other,different assumptions can be made.

We are in a Naruto related forum so I hope you have some knowledge on the concept of Yin and Yang. Every person has dar and good/light side of him. Natsu & END concept is pretty much same and Igneel is the Minato of FT and he separated END and Natsu just like how Minato separated Yin and Yang parts of Kyuubi.

May be if he is shown to be son of Acnologia then the chances of him being Demon are zero or Like by what you are going to say with that evil counterpart thing.

No, it doesn't change the possibility of Natsu being a demon. Natsu might be a combination of Demon and a human as I said before.

 

[Soloist]

I can't wait for next chapter igneels death was crazy tho no trace of his existence left bro

 

[Memento Mori]

Yo!Roro,You sure about that E N D is He or she ?

People don't get me wrong.I am not against that theory.If you look my past post here,you will know that I have actually provided some interpretations showing how Natsu=E N D.Now I am only saying about the possible scenarios.Nonetheless,before I leave now,I will post a small post about Future events and regarding tartaros & the ones that quoted my post above!.

That is the spirit people.Let the discussions flow.I will make my last post here before I leave.I will be back after 8 days or so.I am gonna miss the further discussions :T_T:

Edit - I must agree.This is the first time I am feeling so much in the discussions of the Chapter!
Only talking about Forums and not tumblr or FTB.

If caliburn and scorps would have joined it would have been even more fun.Especially I love to see Caliburn debunking the interpretations of Natsu = E N D theory Xd.

I am not saying everypoint can but some points from Natsu is E N D theory.

 

[itachi uchiha fiance]

i am not gong to do any predictions bcz my every single failed

 

[Memento Mori]

i am not gong to do any predictions bcz my every single failed

We are both same party XD.Only difference is I am still doing having a hope of atleast one of my theory will come to fruition.

 

[A v i]

Yo!Roro,You sure about that E N D is He or she ?

Yup, Given how more than one person referred to him as "He" on more than one occasion I have no doubt in my mind about END being a male. END being Natsu's mother is a theory with no base if you ask me.

People don't get me wrong.I am not against that theory.If you look my past post here,you will know that I have actually provided some interpretations showing how Natsu=E N D.Now I am only saying about the possible scenarios.Nonetheless,before I leave now,I will post a small post about Future events and regarding tartaros & the ones that quoted my post above!.

It's cool man, I didn't get you wrong. I was just pointing out the holes in your other theories such as Natsu is Acnologia's son etc.

That is the spirit people.Let the discussions flow.I will make my last post here before I leave.I will be back after 8 days or so.I am gonna miss the further discussions :T_T:

Lmao, I just noticed that this thread is filled with Zoro fans.:bouncy: (Save, Sach, R o r o n o a Z o r o and Caliburn)

 

[Memento Mori]

Yup, Given how more than one person referred to him as "He" on more than one occasion I have no doubt in my mind about END being a male. END being Natsu's mother is a theory with no base if you ask me.



It's cool man, I didn't get you wrong. I was just pointing out the holes in your other theories such as Natsu is Acnologia's son etc.




Lmao, I just noticed that this thread is filled with Zoro fans.:bouncy: (Save, Sach, R o r o n o a Z o r o and Caliburn)

More than One person ?Show me those scans ?.

No it is not baseless.Read clearly.That is made on the basis of age criteria and still it has some issues.

We Zoro fans solos

 

[Memento Mori]

yay..Roro...
3:42 AM...Edited at 5:13 AM.....?.You didn't sleep last night ?Well guess,you are always like that.Don't say me you woke up midnight just to log into NB Xd.

I will make this my last post in this thread.I will be off from NB for 8 days or so.I will also post my thoughts on regarding future events at the end.

It is not like people are interpreting it in that way just because they wanted to, if you joint every hint from the writer regarding END's relation with Natsu or his identity then the best possible out come you can come up with will be END is Natsu's counterpart. There is no theory that can link all those hints as good as this one. So the chances of this theory being true are more when compared to any other theory on END's identity.

END is Zeref's final masterpiece to fulfil his wish i.e. putting an end to his life and we have a statement from Zeref himself which hints that only Natsu can kill Zeref. Don't you think those points pretty much hints that Natsu and END are two faces of same coin? 2*2= y & 2*2 = x but still x=/=y. :| Thinking END is a different entity from Natsu is no different from saying x=/=y.

Zeref himself thinks that only Natsu can stop him and yet he's hoping END or Natsu to meet him so that he can finally settle scores. Zeref is the one that created END so he knew that END is capable of killing him and if END is a different entity from Natsu then Zeref's statement about Natsu must be wrong but Zeref knows about both Natsu as well as END so he can't be wrong.

Most people do only in that way including myself.I would like to know what actual evidence there is to prove Natsu is E N D or he is a counterpart of E N D.First of all if Natsu is the counterpart of E N D then who is the one that separated E N D into two?Hiro just didn't give the hints of E N D is Natsu or his counterpart but his writing is so twisting that we actually can't get a hold of who he is!.Ofcourse there is more chances for it to be being true and at the same time there are also fair chances that show how they cannot be.All of these are only half baked assumptions.None of them as any correct evidence to back up.

Yeah.Zeref sure said that to Natsu.E N D is the only one that can kill Zeref and also quoted during Sirius Island arc that "Natsu still don't have the power to defeat me..." along those lines.In that same chapter Zeref did said to natsu that he has grown up."GROWN UP."See that.(Chances Natsu may be even younger than a kid assuming we don't know exactly how Igneel took Natsu)So Natsu is a kid when Zeref and Natsu departed 400 years ago.A kid natsu who is a demon( E N D) ruled over the Tartaros(The place where all the races of the Demons live including Aetherious demons we are seeing in this current arc).Seems fitting ?.Also in latest chapter,Zeref said that he want to settle things with natsu but Acnologia interrupted it.Why Acnologia is not allowing Natsu and Zeref to fight ?.IF Zeref wants to settle things with natsu then assuming he is a kid back 400 years age from interpretation taken from what Igneel said,then what are the things Zeref want to settle down with natsu ?.See how many ways we can interpret the sentences.Before someone thinks that Taratoros is the full of Aetherious demons.No.Aetherious is just a race of demons that are living in Tartaros capital and E N D being the Master of Tartaros.

Two sides of the same coin.I have theorized this in FTB and posted in last chapter discussion thread there.It has some huge followers to it.Forget about Natsu being the coin or E N D or what?In Edolas arc,those cuffs that prevent wizards from using magic wouldn't have worked on natsu if he was a demon.You can say here that his Fire slayer magic has been blocked which is of a new origin but his curse has been sealed so they didn't worked.That is too assuming Natsu is of a different entity.Their plans started a while back, what are those demons would have done if Fairy Sphere was never released? If Natsu was END, he'd be summoned without a body? Yeah, don't think so.If E N D is negative self of E N D.I can see this getting come out somehow but still....!.Those nine demon gates and Mard greer would have recognized him. Do you think they would have been trying so hard to kill him if he was their master? Kinda render what they're doing atm completely useless.

Also unless we know about the the age mysteries first or hiro stops trolling we can't exactly determine the outcome.And tartaros arc ends with chapter 416 with 33 pages.We may get some aftermath information about it I hope.

Zeref was referring to END as '

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' ,If END Is a male then how can they possibly think that END is Natsu's mother?:Omg: That theory clearly has a hole in it. As I have mentioned above there isn't a theory that can joint all the hints as good as this one.

Wrong Roro.
Official Translation has it like Let live or let kill and Japanese text says "Ikasu ka Korasu ka " - Meaning To kill or to Live.It was not mentioned that E N D is he/she ?Not just yet.

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I didn't said that Natsu is definitely END or anything like that. I admit that there are other possibilities but the thing is that Natsu being the counterpart of END tops every other possible theory regarding END's true identity.

Hmm...That is also possible but first I would like to see how you base of that theory ?Like how I theorized it on the above post I type to sach ?

They are obviously working for Zeref. As far as I remember Zeref created them hoping that they could kill him and they are doing their best to fulfil his wish. Mard Geers methods might be different but his ultimate goal is no different from what Zeref wished for.

All are working for E N D to get revived so that he/she can kill Zeref thus by granting his wish.While on otherhand Mard Geer is doing both.Reviving E N D and at the same time also trying his best to kill Zeref by his own hands.All of their ultimate goal is one tho.

Those theories has no back up from manga no matter how badly you think about it.There are no hints that suggests that Acnologia has a wife/ son.There are no hints suggesting that Acnologia and Natsu have met before. In fact Acnologia never displayed any signs of having some kind of relation with Natsu during their encounters until now.

Are there any hints saying that Silver is alive before he introduced ?
Are there any hints that Silver got turned into demon by Keyes in which that isn't the case ?
Are there any hints that Mavis is the first master of FT till she was introduced ?
Are there any hints that Makarov has a father named Yuriy till he got introduced ?
Are there any hints that Cana has a father till it was introduced ?
Are there any hints that Lucy has father and mother till it was shown ? etc..,
May be hiro making like that for a plot twist ?.I don't know.-_-

Only that thing that hints that Natsu has some kind of relation with Acnologia is the image that depicts a fire type mage fighting Acnologia. The dude in that image was a fire mage so it could be END for all we know and it would explain why Acnologia wanted to destroy END before he gets revived.

Does it shown in the manga that E N D has a scarf or even said it ?.If that is the case,then I assume that after E N D got sealed into book.Igneel gave that scarf to Natsu.This also explains how Natsu tanked death magic from Zeref during Sirius Island arc maybe.

Assuming that the mage in that image is indeed Natsu only theories you can come up with are 1) Natsu and Acnologia will face each other in future. 2) They fought with each other in past. The later is obviously wrong as Acnologia never recognized Nasu so it isn't really hard to understand that they have never met before. So that leaves Natsu facing him in future in our hands and the recent chapter pretty much conforms that Natsu VS Acnologia in future is inevitable.

That is destined outcome as in the next chapter Acnologia flew off and Natsu made an vow to kill Acnologia.No powerup for Natsu this time. Gray ftw.We don't have any evidence to suggest that they fought in the Past but if E N D is Natsu then yes they would have fought.Apparently Mard Geer knows Acnologia but it didn't act like he recognised Mard ?.No this chapter not confirmed it.Chapter 415 confirmed it.

@ Bold: Not really , Zeref created loads of demons but END is some how different from other demons. His strength vastly out classes other demons and he's the final masterpiece of Zeref. I have a feeling that unlike other demons END was created using a human(Natsu) and Zeref's magic. We all know that turning humans into demons is totally possible.

Later Igneel fought END and seperated Natsu from END and ultimately sealed END inside of book.

Plausible point roro.That makes others a failed experiments and E N D being a masterpiece is explainable.

@Bold,Wrong.It was said that E N D was sealed by a ward.My guess is Layla.Not taking Ishgal gods into consideration since Warrod himself said that they(Ishgar gods) don't know much about tartaros activities.They may not know who E N D is ?

There was no need for his feelings to be emotional. We all know that there are fathers that doesn't care about their sons and has no emotional feelings but I have never seen a father that acts as if he doesn't even know about his own son during their reunion after a long ass time. It doesn't matter if he doesn't care about his son. The thing is that he should at least recognize his son in order for us to think that they have some kind of relation with each other.

Btw, What exactly drove you to believe that Natsu is biological son of Acnologia?

All for plot sake I assume.I have already said that if Acnologia is supposed father of Natsu then how Acnologia is shown so far in the manga is a typical father type character.I have said more about it in the post you quoted.Read there.

We are in a Naruto related forum so I hope you have some knowledge on the concept of Yin and Yang. Every person has dar and good/light side of him. Natsu & END concept is pretty much same and Igneel is the Minato of FT and he separated END and Natsu just like how Minato separated Yin and Yang parts of Kyuubi.

That doesn't mean I should have knowledge about it.U_U.And again how you theorised that ?In manga did it even give a hint ?.Every hint can be interpreted in oneway or other tho.if Natsu is happened to be son of Acnologia then taking into the consideration of how Igneel took kid Natsu and taught him Dragon slaying magic,most likely after the end of Civil war implies that Natsu is kid at that time.Acnologia is shown to be a brutal till now in the series who cares nothing about humans.Even at the Sirius Island it didn't cared about none of the FT crew.All it seek was complete destruction which is evident as of in current manga.We know that Acnologia is human....If natsu is the son of Acnologia then natsu is human too.As we know that Acnologia don't cares about humankind,it is safe to assume that he don't care about natsu either who is a human too that is on the basis of if Natsu is Acnologia's son.the ancient tapestry in which it is depicted that Natsu like mage with scarf and Acnologia is fighting.As I just said now about that tapestry then it shows that may be Natsu is destined to fight Acnologia.First of one can think why would Father and son fight against each other?.Which can make one lean towards they may not be Father or son and at the same time it can be introduced as such like that for a plot twist from hiro's perspective.Like a Father and Son fight or Just a normal fight to defeat Acnologia,the king is what all upto hiro

No, it doesn't change the possibility of Natsu being a demon. Natsu might be a combination of Demon and a human as I said before.

If he is happened to be a son Acnologia and son of E N D(assuming E N D is female) then he is.Also If we assume E N D is female this still don't explain about how Zeref has issues with an kid(Natsu) at that time.I can still go on like this but I think anything further is pointless.So I will stop now.