[VS] Itachi vs Sasori

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I like Sasori more then Itachi , and I think he's underratted but with what Itachi done he's way out of his league you wanna start comparing features between these 2 characthers? Anime & Manga wise Itachi surpassess him a notch or 2

Not really, By Portrayal they are about equal with Sasori having a slight edge. But hype Goes to Itachi simply because the Show was about his clan, and his brother was the co star. As a result we seen and read more about him and his back story, seen way more screen time and ofc the Arthur wanted us the like him more. Itachi is deadly if you know Zero about uchihas or Sharingan (which the world knows almost everything to know), If you had no prior anything uchiha related he could be unstoppable in a sense, but that isn't the case. Sasori on the other hand is secret stacked on more secrets, period! Unless you have some crazy defense or info on him, you already are in a bad situation not knowing what is about to happen. Excluding the obv bad match ups and Broken characters, he has a fair shot at almost any ninja shown if he is focused and not playful.

Prime example of Itachi being overrated is the post above yours. lol I Love Itachi, Greatly Dislike his Fanbase since they are mostly delusional fanboys/girls.
 

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@Draegod, are you talking about an unrestricted Itachi or the restricted Itachi in the OP?
 

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@Draegod, are you talking about an unrestricted Itachi or the restricted Itachi in the OP?

With the Portrayal? Doesn't matter, I have always stated Sasori beats Manga alive Itachi more times then lose. The Restricted Itachi loses 100% in this thread though.
 

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Sasori was portrayed higher than itachi?
 

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scan outright stated otherwise[ ]. Dealing with traps is as = as dealing anticipating the attack pattern puppeteer relies on.

That scan talks about Sasori's Attack Pattern, as in his Iron Sand as that was what he was using that whole time. Makes no mention of traps.

Lol, and nothing in the manga even begins to imply that traps referred to dealing with the puppeteer's overall attack pattern. Where are you getting this stuff from? Traps literally refer to the inside of the puppet. Iron Sand has nothing to do with that as Iron Sand isn't a trap inside of the puppets body.




Not saying it can't be predicted. I stated the attack needs to be read and know where its heading before you can escape its range.

Which is something that can be done, cause there is nothing that separates Iron Sand from a normal projectile when it comes to evading or blocking it.


???????????????????????? precognition is a term we fanbase use to express what the Sharingan does. In no way the Sharingan literally sees the future. So Sharingan reading the lips of something sees a slow down action of something before it happens.
Lol, obviously it doesn't see the future.


The scan doesnt states seeing the future either Lol.

Never said it did, but it definitely makes no mention of the target needing muscles to be able to track it. So I'm not seeing where you got that from, clearly the scan doesn't state it, nor does anything else in the manga say it.

Well congratz to her as she was able to read through Sasori's hand movement instead of the attack itself to read through them. Even then he used Iron Sand Block Attack (DB name) which isn't its best move to attempt to get a scratch but to crush his opponents. Most useless move for IS tech for fodders to deal with.
Hand movement? Attack pattern means attack pattern, as in the attack pattern of the attack she was encountering, which would be Iron Sand. Iron Sand's attack pattern has nothing to do with Sasori's hand movements, nor would she be able to even read his hand movements while dodging his attacks.

@bold: Your point?


DB stated IS can: "The caster is able to choose the appropriate method of attack depending on the target type". So even then Sasori's method of using IS would not be the same with Sakura dealing with the attacks as his opponent is much different then her.
Depending on target type. There is no difference between Itachi and Sakura as a target besides their physical attributes and prowess. No reason that the Iron Sand's form would differ here, nor would there be any reason why the same attacks wouldn't be used.


Doesnt disprove my point. Unless you implying that Itachi intentionally didn't see the attack on purpose and intentionally got hit by it.

Except it does. Zetsu already noted that Itachi didn't/couldn't dodge because he was suffering the backlash from Sasuke breaking Tsukuyomi, and the fact that he wasn't trying to win. Why are you gauging Itachi based on a weakened state? Especially since he won't be in that state at any point in this match. So no, you have no point to disprove since you are making invalid comparisons on a flawed basis.

Sasori was portrayed higher than itachi?

Lol..wondering the same exact thing. Anyone reading the manga knows that's a load of shit. Lol.
 

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Not really, By Portrayal they are about equal with Sasori having a slight edge. But hype Goes to Itachi simply because the Show was about his clan, and his brother was the co star. As a result we seen and read more about him and his back story, seen way more screen time and ofc the Arthur wanted us the like him more. Itachi is deadly if you know Zero about uchihas or Sharingan (which the world knows almost everything to know), If you had no prior anything uchiha related he could be unstoppable in a sense, but that isn't the case. Sasori on the other hand is secret stacked on more secrets, period! Unless you have some crazy defense or info on him, you already are in a bad situation not knowing what is about to happen. Excluding the obv bad match ups and Broken characters, he has a fair shot at almost any ninja shown if he is focused and not playful.

Prime example of Itachi being overrated is the post above yours. lol I Love Itachi, Greatly Dislike his Fanbase since they are mostly delusional fanboys/girls.

@Bold You must not have interpret the manga correctly if you think that. Lol
 

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@Bold You must not have interpret the manga correctly if you think that. Lol

Itachi's highest and most known feat was Supposedly solo'ing the Uchiha clan (when we know he didnt and most didn't even fight back or were asleep).
Sasori's Highest and most known feat is Solo'ing a Country and killing the strongest Kazekage.

Now all fanboying aside and using common sense, which Feat is more impressive? That is what I mean by Portrayal based off what the ninja world knows or found out and what is more impressive. Allot do not even know Itachi was actually good and the idea wasn't his plan. Now if we use manga hype, then ofc Itachi blows every ninja shown out the park except God like characters! If you still don't get it i can break it down further and in a lames term.
 

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That scan talks about Sasori's Attack Pattern, as in his Iron Sand as that was what he was using that whole time. Makes no mention of traps.

Lol, and nothing in the manga even begins to imply that traps referred to dealing with the puppeteer's overall attack pattern. Where are you getting this stuff from? Traps literally refer to the inside of the puppet. Iron Sand has nothing to do with that as Iron Sand isn't a trap inside of the puppets body.






Which is something that can be done, cause there is nothing that separates Iron Sand from a normal projectile when it comes to evading or blocking it.



Lol, obviously it doesn't see the future.




Never said it did, but it definitely makes no mention of the target needing muscles to be able to track it. So I'm not seeing where you got that from, clearly the scan doesn't state it, nor does anything else in the manga say it.


Hand movement? Attack pattern means attack pattern, as in the attack pattern of the attack she was encountering, which would be Iron Sand. Iron Sand's attack pattern has nothing to do with Sasori's hand movements, nor would she be able to even read his hand movements while dodging his attacks.

@bold: Your point?



Depending on target type. There is no difference between Itachi and Sakura as a target besides their physical attributes and prowess. No reason that the Iron Sand's form would differ here, nor would there be any reason why the same attacks wouldn't be used.




Except it does. Zetsu already noted that Itachi didn't/couldn't dodge because he was suffering the backlash from Sasuke breaking Tsukuyomi, and the fact that he wasn't trying to win. Why are you gauging Itachi based on a weakened state? Especially since he won't be in that state at any point in this match. So no, you have no point to disprove since you are making invalid comparisons on a flawed basis.



Lol..wondering the same exact thing. Anyone reading the manga knows that's a load of shit. Lol.

I almost got caught up in a discussion I didn't want to start, but only attempt to further elaborate my points. At the end of the day if you really think Itachi is always going escape IS movements without getting scratch from a dragged on fight of dodging, yet alone Sasori's next arsenal 100 puppets (not that he needs it, at all) then just as it was back in 2012-2013, this is pointless to even argue w/.
 

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I almost got caught up in a discussion I didn't want to start, but only attempt to further elaborate my points. At the end of the day if you really think Itachi is always going escape IS movements without getting scratch from a dragged on fight of dodging, yet alone Sasori's next arsenal 100 puppets (not that he needs it, at all) then just as it was back in 2012-2013, this is pointless to even argue w/.

Except it won't be a dragged on fight, unless Itachi lets it become some dragged on fight, and 100 puppets? Didn't Sakura, on her own, evade all their attacks? Oh wait, she did. All Itachi needs to be able to do is finish him off, which he can do If all you are going to do is complain about how "It's pointless" then don't bother replying to begin with.
 

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...On second thought, Amaterasu could probably one shot. I don't think Iron Sand is fast enough to block it.
 

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Except it won't be a dragged on fight, unless Itachi lets it become some dragged on fight, and 100 puppets? Didn't Sakura, on her own, evade all their attacks? Oh wait, she did. All Itachi needs to be able to do is finish him off, which he can do If all you are going to do is complain about how "It's pointless" then don't bother replying to begin with.

On her own all attacks? Didn't read the fight I see.
 

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On her own all attacks? Didn't read the fight I see.




All the puppets that actually attacked her? Yes, she evaded them, on her own.
 

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People think Sasori beats Itachi :leaf:

Itachi stomps.
 

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All the puppets that actually attacked her? Yes, she evaded them, on her own.



She was not alone ever.
 

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Finally a thread where PawsX and Draegod are on the same side.

Reading KG's arguments, I'll go with Itachi high difficulty.
 
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