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Lol...I didn't noticed that XD.Seems like I was too distracted by Igneel's death.He indeed comes and goes like always.He is a hype train.
[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 414 Discussion and 415 Predictions
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I don't like this. I have been waiting to see igneel from the beginning and when he finally shows up he dies?
Not to mention his death scene has been lackluster. This is one of the most important characters
Natsu entire life and goal is going to change now but this chapter was ordinary .
Acnologia is starting to piss me off .
Not to mention his death scene has been lackluster. This is one of the most important characters
Natsu entire life and goal is going to change now but this chapter was ordinary .
Acnologia is starting to piss me off .
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Why in the hell did Igneel have to die. (Though I was expecting something like this ._. !!!)
I mean, why didn't we get to see Fairy Law before Igneel died ?
Meh, and that Zeref too. I doubt he will be a part of this arc, I mean, the main events. I also want to see the other dragons in action, especially Metalicana, seems pretty cool.
I'd give this chapter a 4 out of 5m the only reason being Igneel. I just wanted to see more of him.
I mean, why didn't we get to see Fairy Law before Igneel died ?
Meh, and that Zeref too. I doubt he will be a part of this arc, I mean, the main events. I also want to see the other dragons in action, especially Metalicana, seems pretty cool.
I'd give this chapter a 4 out of 5m the only reason being Igneel. I just wanted to see more of him.
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Igneel died too fast,but saddest death in Fairy Tail...
the hand cut off scene kind of reminded me Naruto vs Sasuke ended
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the hand cut off scene kind of reminded me Naruto vs Sasuke ended
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Great chapter, Igneel's death came to soon, I wonder where the other dragon's are they should have come back by now.
My jaw just would not come off the floor, literally my mouth was hanging open for a good 5 minutes. Can't believe Mashima would kill off Igneel.
Talk about despair, right after Zeref talks about handing it out
5/5
Talk about despair, right after Zeref talks about handing it out
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The other dragons are spread across the land, having dealt with the face statues.
Atm, we can only hope that the other dragons will actually explain and serve as the plot developers for the whole thing.
One thing that has crossed my mind is the relation between Zeref and Natsu. I'm still curious about the reason why Natsu is so important to a mage who supposedly shouldn't know him. And an idea crossed my mind. Can Natsu be Zeref's brother? Taken in by Igneel (who, like a Gandalf of FT universe, started to see patterns in the world and decided to coach the perfect opposition to zeref), Natsu would somehow become the contrary of what Zeref is. His enemy. Its overstreatched and its not the first time someone has had this idea but...dunno... The last chapter made me seem that Zeref and Natsu have been fighting for a long time...longer than Natsu actually is aware of. Can he be a reincarnation? What if he is a demon himself?
Still, I find it stupid that Igneel sacrificed himself to take one arm from Acnologia. I think it would be much more logical to wait and try to survive the whole thing. Not 100% sure that his death was a) needed in the plot and b) unavoidable in the plot. Perhaps I'm just trying to accept that he died when I wished he wouldn't but it feels unecessary... Shock value just "because".
Atm, we can only hope that the other dragons will actually explain and serve as the plot developers for the whole thing.
One thing that has crossed my mind is the relation between Zeref and Natsu. I'm still curious about the reason why Natsu is so important to a mage who supposedly shouldn't know him. And an idea crossed my mind. Can Natsu be Zeref's brother? Taken in by Igneel (who, like a Gandalf of FT universe, started to see patterns in the world and decided to coach the perfect opposition to zeref), Natsu would somehow become the contrary of what Zeref is. His enemy. Its overstreatched and its not the first time someone has had this idea but...dunno... The last chapter made me seem that Zeref and Natsu have been fighting for a long time...longer than Natsu actually is aware of. Can he be a reincarnation? What if he is a demon himself?
Still, I find it stupid that Igneel sacrificed himself to take one arm from Acnologia. I think it would be much more logical to wait and try to survive the whole thing. Not 100% sure that his death was a) needed in the plot and b) unavoidable in the plot. Perhaps I'm just trying to accept that he died when I wished he wouldn't but it feels unecessary... Shock value just "because".
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So if natsu turned to be end a demon or something and gray is a demon slayer (and want to destroy end)
is gray gonna pull a sasuke?
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is gray gonna pull a sasuke?
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I think it is more like Igneel attacked Acnologia head on completely but Acnologia evades it in a sec and destroyed Igneel in a blink while I gneel got rid of only his hand.Now that I think there is till Grandine out there.I assume she is an awesome powerful healer.May be Grandine will made it in time and hopefully will cure Igneel.Natsu may be E N D or E N D's son or brother or Acnologia's son or brother or
.I too don't like the way how Igneel got killed I thinking of two scenario's atm....Firstly,If however Grandine makes it in time and rescues Igneel by healing him then maybe we can see all the Dragons teaming up together to kill Acnologia which is plausible.
Secondly,Natsu and other Dragon slayers(Sting,Rogue,Gajeel,Laxus,Erik,Wendy) with the assist of remaining dragons slayers may possibly be defeat Acnologia given the state of how exhausted Acnologia is after the fight against Igneel.
I think either Acnologia retreats or mashima going lengths to kill off the remaining dragons,Acno's death is inevitable.
Regarding Igneel(Natsu's foster parent?) death and deaths in common in FT.......This is what mashima said in interview.
Are the Fairy Tail characters based on people in real life? Is there a character in Fairy Tail that is most like you?
Definitely Natsu. He’s like me in junior high! (laughs) All the other characters are based on my friends, my editors, people I know through work.
In Rave and Fairy Tail, you have two main characters, both boys, who have no fathers. Additionally, two adventures in Fairy Tail entail saving a father-son relationship. Why is this relationship important for you to explore?
It’s partly from my personal experience. I lost my father when I was younger. In a way, it’s difficult to imagine what a father is. In my stories, instead of introducing the father figure first, I introduce him in the later part and expand from there. I kind of keep him as a mysterious figure and introduce him little by little later on.
Did your parents ever worry or try to discourage you [from pursuing manga as a career]
They all were very supportive. I lost my father when I was young. My father was also an artist and wanted to become a professional artist, but he passed away before he could achieve that dream. I want to make this dream come true on his behalf.
In Fairy Tail, often the “villain” characters get redeemed in one way or another. Do you believe in giving people second chances and that anyone can be redeemed?
Absolutely. However, I value life heavily, and that’s something to keep in mind. Sometimes I depict where a character passes away, but then it turns out they actually hadn’t, but I never draw how someone who was actually already dead coming back to life; that’s not something that I depict.
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Ofcourse I do think that but only the scenario's will be completely different
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True, I agree with all of your points but I have felt that Natsu was Zeref's son, destined to kill his father who went wayward.
Or Natsu was Zeref's friend who died and reincarnated like Kurama from YYH and was taken by Igneel to train him and prepare him to face Zeref.
You just combined both to make a cool theory.
BTW in the original Fairy Tale one shot which is a precursor to FT, Natsu was a fire spirit so the reincarnation theory might not be off from the mark.
Natsu being +ve side of END is the most plausible theory at this point if you ask me. END is the only one who has some kind of relation with both Zeref as well as Igneel and so is Natsu.
You are the only one capable of killing me: By Zeref.
END is the only one that could kill Zeref : By Mard.
Both has fire as their affinity.
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And in chapter 372 when Natsu said I will kill my father's enemies( E N D),Zeref said that I believe you could.Isn't it kind of implying that both Natsu and E N D were different entities ?
Well, possible scenarios:
-Natsu is Zeref's son
-Natsu is END itself
-Natsu is related to END
-Natsu is Zeref's brother or his son
Things we might ask:
-Who are Natsu's parents? And why are all the dragon slayers, orfans (apparently) and refer to their dragons as parents?
-Can Natsu be END if END was actually a book that Zeref now has?
-Relationship between Zeref and Mavis?
-What is Mavis gonna do now?
-Relationship between Acnologia and Zeref? It has been hinted that the downfall of Acnologia the human into Acnologia the dragon had some influence from Zeref.
-What will all the other dragons do now?
-Can grandine heal Igneel? I don't think she can or will. Its a drastic plot changer that Igneel gets introduced and dies right after to save them all by injuring Acnologia at the cost of his own life. Injuring enough so that Acnologia will not risk facing all the other 4 dragons that are around and has no choice but to retreat.
-Will all the dragons stay with their slayers and teach them more or will they retreat? Will they perish in the sense that their return was a temporary fix?
-Why disappear in that specific day...the day Lucy0s mother died? Can it be that it was her who sealed them inside their slayers? And using such a magic consumed her life?
Questions...questions....questions...
-Natsu is Zeref's son
-Natsu is END itself
-Natsu is related to END
-Natsu is Zeref's brother or his son
Things we might ask:
-Who are Natsu's parents? And why are all the dragon slayers, orfans (apparently) and refer to their dragons as parents?
-Can Natsu be END if END was actually a book that Zeref now has?
-Relationship between Zeref and Mavis?
-What is Mavis gonna do now?
-Relationship between Acnologia and Zeref? It has been hinted that the downfall of Acnologia the human into Acnologia the dragon had some influence from Zeref.
-What will all the other dragons do now?
-Can grandine heal Igneel? I don't think she can or will. Its a drastic plot changer that Igneel gets introduced and dies right after to save them all by injuring Acnologia at the cost of his own life. Injuring enough so that Acnologia will not risk facing all the other 4 dragons that are around and has no choice but to retreat.
-Will all the dragons stay with their slayers and teach them more or will they retreat? Will they perish in the sense that their return was a temporary fix?
-Why disappear in that specific day...the day Lucy0s mother died? Can it be that it was her who sealed them inside their slayers? And using such a magic consumed her life?
Questions...questions....questions...
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- Zeref is boring with his attitude "come and go". Don't make him Natsu fanboy.
- I always complain about no death in FT, but this was too fast Mashima. Igneel was introduced just like 3 chapters ago, for main character dead, he got little to no screen time. Tho, his death was a bit emotional.
3/5
- I always complain about no death in FT, but this was too fast Mashima. Igneel was introduced just like 3 chapters ago, for main character dead, he got little to no screen time. Tho, his death was a bit emotional.
3/5
I feel Zeref's "come and go" attitude is because he is waiting for Natsu to become stronger and be able to kill him he wants to die by Natsu's hand, his attitude reminds me of Toguro's attitude in YYH during dark tournament(who wanted to die because of his guilt.)
I feel he is waiting when Natsu will be powerful enough and kill him so he can attain redemption.
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Zeref met Natsu on Tenrou Island where he wished he wanted to meet Natsu soon (even before meeting him once, so he knew about him from the start) and also told him he had grown and lamented the fact that he is "not ready".
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We still don't know a lot of things his history, Natsu's history so they ,might be connected, see the Scorp's post above it has all the pertinent questions which needs to be answered
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I thought about the time these two met in Tartarus base, it wasn't that long ago, when Zeref said a couple of words and left...
I think Zeref was implying that Natsu can stop/ put an end to his dark self (END) when he said that you can do it. Remember that Zeref said that only you or END will get to meet me means that if Natsu meets Zeref then END can't and vice versa. IMO he was implying that if Natsu managed to take out or take over his dark self then he'll be able to gain the power that can stop Zeref and if he fails to put an end to END then END will be the one to gain powers and meet Zeref instead of Natsu.
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My view on the questions you have posted!.
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Another case,Acnologia turns into human and slay all the dragons.
Another possible scenario,Natsu is Acnologia's son >_> or his parents were killed in the conflict who were related to Zeref that happened 400 years ago after which Igneel took Natsu and taught him Dragon Slaying magic ?!
If Natsu is shown to be a demon then Zeref is All father for him.All other dragon slayers including Wendy,Gajeel don't have their parents named.Those three think that their dragons are their parents.This case is different to sting and Rogue I guess.Natsu's and Gajeel's age didn't showed in the manga till now however Wendy has shown to be 12 years age who is also a dragon slayer.Natsu and Gajeel seems to be different.
well this is something that only Zeref know.There are some evidences to show that Natsu is END and at the same time there are also some statements to post otherwise.As of current I think the Who is E N D can anyway like hiro wants it.
From what it is shown in the FT Zer0 manga assuming that when Zeref and Mavis cross paths in their way to magnolia and both didn't even interacted or didn't given any signs of knowing each other,I would like to think that Mavis and Zeref were from two different timelines.Unless there is a change in timeline I don't see both of them having a interaction for the plot.From what it is shown in the manga it is true that they both know each other from a pretty well time.
Mavis is crystallized(Lumen Histoire).Latest manga events showed that LH is more of darkness in nature but it carries some Light nature too.That is what I think of LH.Also it's been a while since we last saw Mavis spirit in the manga.
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Yeah.Igneel waited in Natsu's body for the time to kill Acnologia with his own hands.Also Igneel said in the latest chapter that the terrible legacy he left off is Acnologia.Meaning of which....As we already know that Dragon's civil war occurred 400 years ago.During that time Dragons were divided into two groups.The group which hoped for the co-existence of humans and dragons taught humans the dragon slaying magic believing that they will help them in civil war.Acnologia which is also a human at that time learned Dragon slaying magic but he killed all the dragons an became a dragon king except Igneel,Grandine,Mettalicana,Skiadrum,Weissolgia.From what Igneel said in latest chapter I think that Igneel and Co. were in the Group that hoped for co-existence meaning of which they all know how Acnologia arised.So they think they are the reason of current Acnologia.Yes it is certain that someone would have influence Acnologia to rebel against their own group.Yep.It is Zeref!.
Mostly they all team up and kill already worn out Acnologia which is a possible scenario or they just go back to their timeline.May be with the spell they came to this current timeline,there is also a timer for it.Or more preferably they all go back to Dragon slayer bodies.
Another case,Acnologia turns into human and slay all the dragons.
First the question arises is can Grandine heal ?Yes I think assuming she is the one who taught Wendy.Will Igneel be resurrected or not is all upto Hiro I think.If hiro decided to show how badass Grandine healing powers are by healing Igneel then I will be happy.^_^.But I doubt that given the scenario of how damaged Igneel's body is now!.
I am thinking the same.I think it was Layla who sealed E N D and also the one who sent Dragons to future timeline along with Natsu and Gajeel only I assume.If I remember Capricon said that "Layla sama became too weak one day which forced her to stop being a celestial wizard."After that Layla passed away on the same day I guess.Yes,beautiful,she would have used time travel magic which is the reason why.......!!
It is more like Hiro is teasing us a bit by bit till their last Meeting.Zeref went left because he is too afraid that Gray may fodderize him who is really pissed by the way how Zeref took E N D book.U_U
One of the context giving one of the different meaning.We really can't guess who is E N D at this point.Hiro left us(or only me as usual) clueless.
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