Visualization

[YowYan]

This is a rather interesting topic. I'm not sure how it relates to this but, I have a ridiculously good memory, both picture wise and just remembering details. Just by meeting someone once I can remember their faces for years (I still remember the faces from people I met 14 years). Likewise I can remember voices, tendencies (like people's habits) and I tend to remember things about people that they sometimes don't remember about themselves. I get most of this from my mom, but I go beyond that in comparison to her. On this topic I am incredibly adept at visualizing things that I think of. Sometimes when I remember my own dreams, I close my eyes and visualize the dream all over again almost to the tee of what it was. Even though I'm not the most creative person, my mind seems to be incredibly imaginative.

That's a gift I'd say. And it could be really handy for your carreer. Lets say you do administration work and you easily memorize information and work faster than your colleagues. Lol
My gf has that too and she has corrected my own memories many times xd.. reminding me of the tiniest details from conversations we had a year or longer ago..and small events that happened that the normal man would forget. And ofcourse she needed to read a long cifer password once and memorized it 7 months after

 

[Transcendence]

That's a gift I'd say. And it could be really handy for your carreer. Lets say you do administration work and you easily memorize information and work faster than your colleagues. Lol
My gf has that too and she has corrected my own memories many times xd.. reminding me of the tiniest details from conversations we had a year or longer ago..

It's a gift but sometimes a curse too ;-; I didn't really have to study at all through high school unless it was for an exam (which I crammed for anyways) and I still got honours but remembering so much means you also remember the bad memories too

It's a weird gift but that's cool she has it too xD. I reminded a friend two days ago about something about his own mother that he didn't remember and he thought it was so weird.

 

[Disquiet]

That's perfectly fine, man. You don't have to belief it, it's just some interesting philosophies you come across while looking up new age stuff. It makes you think and visualize from interesting perspectives. All the claims don't have to be taken seriously. Just get the small messages concerning life lessons. Maybe the practical part is not for everyone.

@Bold, it defeats the purpose of my pursuit if I'm only willing to consider what's convenient for me or what seems "real". But I understand you .

And true, the perspectives are interesting to me.

 

[FloriGlori]

It makes sense that most people are living in a dreamstate when it comes to utilizing the potential of consciousness. Maybe there's more to us, internally.

Funnily, that reminds me a lot of Salvia. I've never dared to try it - yet - but I've read loads of reports where people felt like reality was a dream, and that Salvia's realm was the true reality they just woke up into.

Oh yes, it leaves me even consciously a little surprised when I'm visualizing people I know in perfect detail.

Then maybe you could try it consciously once. Right before you go to bed for example. It doesn't have to take longer than 5 minutes. Maybe you could memorize them and draw it if you're into drawing xd

Yes, I definitely will. Your text has inspired me. Even in a sober state, just thinking about focusing all those thoughts into a single spot intrigues me a lot.

The thing with weed is that I find it most pleasant with music. There's so much synergy between them. Laying on my bed, eyes closed, lights off.. there's just nothing I can do but letting the thoughts and images overflow me. Nothing I want to do. It's simply too beautiful to be interrupted by conscious thoughts. So I'm simply drifting away, carried by soft waves of music, forming images and thoughts, as well as comfortable shivers throughout my entire body. There's a certain German DJ whose mixes have become a must for me whenever I smoke; they're breathtakingly beautiful. Give it a shot if you're interested:

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Anyway, I'll definitely try it out. I'd be stunned if I actually got such clear images; usually, my CEVs on Cannabis aren't really defined. They're blury, abstract, without any defined shape. And still, so clear at times.

ehm..I think you just might have hit the nail on the head when it comes to the mushroom part. I've had psychedelic truffels 4 times. It's a less intense variant of mushrooms. And it's true that I've been having more vivid visualizations after weed just right after I did shrooms. And long after the last trip.

._. I think you're right.

Yeah, I think there's some truth to what he's saying. I might've had the same phenomenon with acid; although I can't really compare how it's like now to how it was like before. But having some bong-hits during the come-down of a beautiful acid-trip, oh boy, was that a pleasure.

 

[YowYan]

It's a gift but sometimes a curse too ;-; I didn't really have to study at all through high school unless it was for an exam (which I crammed for anyways) and I still got honours but remembering so much means you also remember the bad memories too

It's a weird gift but that's cool she has it too xD. I reminded a friend two days ago about something about his own mother that he didn't remember and he thought it was so weird.

aah I tend to remember bad moments more often than I do good memories but I guess remembering bad moments together with vivid images of it would make it even more frustrating

My mother said odd things occassionally. I spoke to this homeless guy who had a 4000 euros a month job but he let cocaine take over his life. I spoke with him and showed respect which he appreciated. My mum told me to be careful when dealing with people that live in a negative spiral as they subconsciously drain your energy. Basically I'd feel their emotions and it'd bring me in bad moods and a negative spiral. And I was supposed to be conscious of that danger and guard myself by not absorbing ppl's negativity but gifting them my positivity instead or something around those lines. I sometimes forget her grandparents were masons and her parents were also into that stuff. So I'm usually surprised when she says stuff like that Lol

 

[sharingan67]

I don't believe in this but it remind me Jean Claude Van Damme in a french tv show he said something similar as he believed in his dreams and cristalized his thought in futur. He said that he sent a process of thought because thinking is something very strong.He sent this thought of "success" in the futur, he saw himself and realized it, he says he choosed to succeed.

 

[YowYan]

Funnily, that reminds me a lot of Salvia. I've never dared to try it - yet - but I've read loads of reports where people felt like reality was a dream, and that Salvia's realm was the true reality they just woke up into.


Yes, I definitely will. Your text has inspired me. Even in a sober state, just thinking about focusing all those thoughts into a single spot intrigues me a lot.

The thing with weed is that I find it most pleasant with music. There's so much synergy between them. Laying on my bed, eyes closed, lights off.. there's just nothing I can do but letting the thoughts and images overflow me. Nothing I want to do. It's simply too beautiful to be interrupted by conscious thoughts. So I'm simply drifting away, carried by soft waves of music, forming images and thoughts, as well as comfortable shivers throughout my entire body. There's a certain German DJ whose mixes have become a must for me whenever I smoke; they're breathtakingly beautiful. Give it a shot if you're interested:

You must be registered for see links

Anyway, I'll definitely try it out. I'd be stunned if I actually got such clear images; usually, my CEVs on Cannabis aren't really defined. They're blury, abstract, without any defined shape. And still, so clear at times.


Yeah, I think there's some truth to what he's saying. I might've had the same phenomenon with acid; although I can't really compare how it's like now to how it was like before. But having some bong-hits during the come-down of a beautiful acid-trip, oh boy, was that a pleasure.

I never tried salvia. Seemed a little too much. And than I had a fullfrontal DMT hit... it was ..omg. I did not feel my body or breath. I was not breathing as far as I knew, detached from my body but still there. If I let myself go deep into the trip, It'd become scary as I'd see abnormal multidimensional things. I was uncomfortable at start but the last 5 minutes of the 15 minute trip was pleasant as I implemented positivity consciously to try save the trip from becoming a bad trip. And then it was like you bombard your inner mind with questions and you'll be bombarded right back with answers and the only answer as I describe it 'unity in diversity'.

I realize while typing how wavey this all sounds haha.. and I'm listening to that track of yours. Sounds good

 

[Transcendence]

aah I tend to remember bad moments more often than I do good memories but I guess remembering bad moments together with vivid images of it would make it even more frustrating

My mother said odd things occassionally. I spoke to this homeless guy who had a 4000 euros a month job but he let cocaine take over his life. I spoke with him and showed respect which he appreciated. My mum told me to be careful when dealing with people that live in a negative spiral as they subconsciously drain your energy. Basically I'd feel their emotions and it'd bring me in bad moods and a negative spiral. And I was supposed to be conscious of that danger and guard myself by not absorbing ppl's negativity but gifting them my positivity instead or something around those lines. I sometimes forget her grandparents were masons and her parents were also into that stuff. So I'm usually surprised when she says stuff like that Lol

That usually happens because bad moments tend to be more impactful on one's life or how their lives take shape. Remembering the death of a loved one and if it changed your personality with them not there, it was impactful and much easier to recall because it has inherent meaning.

That's quite odd haha. I've come across people like that. Not homeless, but not exactly in the greatest shape life wise. My parents knew their family and said to watch out because they're not exactly pleasant people. Their children whom I am now friends with are nothing I expected them to be. Joyful, happy and it's almost like they don't even feel that they're in a bad position financially (and they're around my age too so it's not like they're ignorant towards the situation). It's the whole "don't judge a book by it's cover" theme. It's true negativity does spread very easily, but having a positive outlook (like smiling all the time and being happy) is equally as effective.

 

[FloriGlori]

I never tried salvia. Seemed a little too much. And than I had a fullfrontal DMT hit... it was ..omg. I did not feel my body or breath. I was not breathing as far as I knew, detached from my body but still there. If I let myself go deep into the trip, It'd become scary as I'd see abnormal multidimensional things. I was uncomfortable at start but the last 5 minutes of the 15 minute trip was pleasant as I implemented positivity consciously to try save the trip from becoming a bad trip. And then it was like you bombard your inner mind with questions and you'll be bombarded right back with answers and the only answer as I describe it 'unity in diversity'.

I realize while typing how wavey this all sounds haha.. and I'm listening to that track of yours. Sounds good

No worries; got everything you said. xd
Yeah, from what I've heard, DMT is a coin with two very oppoising sides. I haven't dared to enter that realm yet, out of respect for the unpleasant side of that coin. But I guess DMT can be very rewarding. The final answer it granted you shares my full support.

I feel the same as you regarding Salvia. Despite the various interesting aspects, the experience itself seems to be rather uncomfortable most of the times; uncomfortable or horribly frightening. Still, that concept of 'waking up from reality' intrigues me. Goes to show how, in the end, reality is just a product of our perception. Our mind. And thus can be easily altered.

 

[Wabbit]

I read about Nikola Tesla had abiltiy to visualize in 3D or something like that.
What I imagine is vivid only in some dreams, I did nt had it vivid even when I was high.
Back in the day I was really interested in meditation. I had many books on meditation,astral projection and stuff. I realized it is bullshit.

 

[elitenoob94]

Actually, sort of, but it isn't in this sense.

 

[paratise]

I did that when i was a child, probably till the age of 13-15 iirc.

What i did was similar to the architecture in Inception movie; building places. But as you said it was all "visualisation". I could not control my other senses barring sound only a little. I closed my eyes, did not move an inch and focused what i wanted to see. Then i built it but they looked so real, even more real than a dream and sometimes i mistaked what i saw there with what i really saw in my life.

But it was hard, building something out of nothing. The more you know the harder it gets but more real it becomes. Like as the time passes i learnt more about things like gravity and if i did not put what i build in a system (since creating a whole system of consistent mass and force would be impossible for me) it would collapse. I mainly played with my school area and our neighborhood since i was mostly familiar with them.

As far as doing it, all i did was cloing my eyes and focus what i want to see. But i did not make a move as a lie down i picked the most comfartable position. If i moved the "dream" would be broken (don't even itch). This was it i think, dunno if it works for you since some say children are more inclined to do stuff like this.

 

[YowYan]

No worries; got everything you said. xd
Yeah, from what I've heard, DMT is a coin with two very oppoising sides. I haven't dared to enter that realm yet, out of respect for the unpleasant side of that coin. But I guess DMT can be very rewarding. The final answer it granted you shares my full support.

I feel the same as you regarding Salvia. Despite the various interesting aspects, the experience itself seems to be rather uncomfortable most of the times; uncomfortable or horribly frightening. Still, that concept of 'waking up from reality' intrigues me. Goes to show how, in the end, reality is just a product of our perception. Our mind. And thus can be easily altered.

It can be very rewarding but you'd need to be a very positive and strong-minded to manipulate the trip to your will. The quality of your thouhts are crucial to to your visualizations so I'm carefull with psychedelics.

I read about Nikola Tesla had abiltiy to visualize in 3D or something like that.
What I imagine is vivid only in some dreams, I did nt had it vivid even when I was high.
Back in the day I was really interested in meditation. I had many books on meditation,astral projection and stuff. I realized it is bullshit.

Some friends of mine who were all very interested in new age stuff never succeeded in any experiments like lucid dreaming or heightened senses. Thus, they later got frustrated, lost their interest and called it bs. Which is understandable because it'd be a dumb and religious thing to do to believe in something you have not experienced..So I understand your viewpoint. Atleast..I think I do.

I did that when i was a child, probably till the age of 13-15 iirc.

What i did was similar to the architecture in Inception movie; building places. But as you said it was all "visualisation". I could not control my other senses barring sound only a little. I closed my eyes, did not move an inch and focused what i wanted to see. Then i built it but they looked so real, even more real than a dream and sometimes i mistaked what i saw there with what i really saw in my life.

But it was hard, building something out of nothing. The more you know the harder it gets but more real it becomes. Like as the time passes i learnt more about things like gravity and if i did not put what i build in a system (since creating a whole system of consistent mass and force would be impossible for me) it would collapse. I mainly played with my school area and our neighborhood since i was mostly familiar with them.

As far as doing it, all i did was cloing my eyes and focus what i want to see. But i did not make a move as a lie down i picked the most comfartable position. If i moved the "dream" would be broken (don't even itch). This was it i think, dunno if it works for you since some say children are more inclined to do stuff like this.

Children are more prone to those things, you're right. And I know what you mean when you're lying completely still, not moving a muscle, ignoring the twitches and itches.. Lol I used to do that when I tried to achieve astral projection. Which never worked out. I only got close to it once when I did an intention experiment with my gf. I saw a bright blue light with my eyes closed and it was like I was being pulled into that light out of my body. The vibrations were too hectic so I lost my focus. But by myself, I only ever got the sensation of detaching from my body, but astral projection? nope. Friend of mine experienced it while tripping on the psychedelic truffles. He knows nothing of new age stuff, is a muslim and just wanted to try out something wild and suddenly started screaming for my mum's help at 4AM in the morning, later on claiming he was dangling on the ceiling looking down at his motionless body. He was confused beyond measure. It really is not for everyone.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

It definitely works, a lot of people don't have all the pieces though to make use of it.

Though you can meditate and attract things to you all you like. You can only bring them to realization through action, thoughts without action are useless. Since things you visualize don't just materialize out of thin air.

There's also a knowing that's required, that without a doubt in your mind you can achieve what you want. So much so that you can see yourself doing it. You also have to stay focused on achieving what you put out constantly.

 

[AnimusOra]

ehm..I think you just might have hit the nail on the head when it comes to the mushroom part. I've had psychedelic truffels 4 times. It's a less intense variant of mushrooms. And it's true that I've been having more vivid visualizations after weed just right after I did shrooms. And long after the last trip.

._. I think you're right.

Lmao it isn't a bad thing at all to have experience the psychedelic wonders of shrooms. But it is a drug and like every drug out there it is all a mental. If you have a bad perception of life, or your life is not in a good place(ie your mind) then you have to be very careful. If you get in a bad trip...............you will never wake up

 

[YowYan]

It definitely works, a lot of people don't have all the pieces though to make use of it.

Though you can meditate and attract things to you all you like. You can only bring them to realization through action, thoughts without action are useless. Since things you visualize don't just materialize out of thin air.

There's also a knowing that's required, that without a doubt in your mind you can achieve what you want. So much so that you can see yourself doing it. You also have to stay focused on achieving what you put out constantly.

Ofcourse it will manifest only if you take action, like you said. Visualize and work towards your goal. It's easy to get confused about new age stuff as it sounds supernatural and harry potter-like but it's really just intertwined with everyday life situations but with a more out-of-the-box approach.

Lmao it isn't a bad thing at all to have experience the psychedelic wonders of shrooms. But it is a drug and like every drug out there it is all a mental. If you have a bad perception of life, or your life is not in a good place(ie your mind) then you have to be very careful. If you get in a bad trip...............you will never wake up

What do you mean with ''you will never wake up'' ?
That having a bad trip will stabilize and perpetuate the negative spiral of my mentality?

 

[Perses]

I thought everybody was able to do it. And yeah, ever since before my teens.

 

[AnimusOra]

Ofcourse it will manifest only if you take action, like you said. Visualize and work towards your goal. It's easy to get confused about new age stuff as it sounds supernatural and harry potter-like but it's really just intertwined with everyday life situations but with a more out-of-the-box approach.



What do you mean with ''you will never wake up'' ?
That having a bad trip will stabilize and perpetuate the negative spiral of my mentality?

You enter an eternal sleep. You die man. Unfortunately i do know people who have died because of going onto a bad trip. I had a friend of mine that ate shrooms with me at least.....4 years ago and he went to my kitchen to get some Orange Juice. This is what he told me happened to him in exact detail "As soon as i opened to door the immediate sense of fresh air hit my face and i felt as if i was outside during a cold day. Soon after it felt like i falling endlessly down a mountain and i could feel myself losing complete conscious. Everything turned dark and i was losing feeling in my feet, my hands, my arms and finally my body. And then you woke me up" What had happened to him was that he fell flat on the floor and started having out of control seizures and his eyes rolled to the back of his skull. It scared the living shit out of me because i feel that for a few seconds my friend died. I started slapping him to wake up even poured water over his face. Nothing changed until i punched him in the chest and told him to wake up that he finally did. As soon as he got up he told me that if i had not done what i did, he would have died from the trip he was having. Its like i said man, if you are not strong mentally i don't recommend anyone take those kind of drugs

 

[YowYan]

You enter an eternal sleep. You die man. Unfortunately i do know people who have died because of going onto a bad trip. I had a friend of mine that ate shrooms with me at least.....4 years ago and he went to my kitchen to get some Orange Juice. This is what he told me happened to him in exact detail "As soon as i opened to door the immediate sense of fresh air hit my face and i felt as if i was outside during a cold day. Soon after it felt like i falling endlessly down a mountain and i could feel myself losing complete conscious. Everything turned dark and i was losing feeling in my feet, my hands, my arms and finally my body. And then you woke me up" What had happened to him was that he fell flat on the floor and started having out of control seizures and his eyes rolled to the back of his skull. It scared the living shit out of me because i feel that for a few seconds my friend died. I started slapping him to wake up even poured water over his face. Nothing changed until i punched him in the chest and told him to wake up that he finally did. As soon as he got up he told me that if i had not done what i did, he would have died from the trip he was having. Its like i said man, if you are not strong mentally i don't recommend anyone take those kind of drugs

Woah..hectic. I never ate the actual shrooms, just the truffels but that story of yours will make me think twice before even considering to try it..if I ever get shrooms in my possession, that is.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Woah..hectic. I never ate the actual shrooms, just the truffels but that story of yours will make me think twice before even considering to try it..if I ever get shrooms in my possession, that is.

You'll like them, it only gets crazy if you let your thoughts go down a wrong path.